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    Re: So Orion.. Wardens?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeedai View Post
    Loremasters do not need a secondary role because they have no competition for any of their primary roles. They are the only class any of the following: . . . multi-target CC (until Burgs get the OD set).
    Rain of Thorns? Confound?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeedai View Post
    Minstrels do not need a secondary role since they have a secure position in their primary. The only class with competitive healing capabilities are Runekeepers who provide far less damage while healing. Regardless, the classes work well together, and most raids contain at least one Minstrel.
    Well, RKs are certainly competitive healers in some fights, given their vastly superior power efficiency. They're secure in the position, but they're both viable healers. (Minstrels bring far better other tools, like rezzes and buffs, but that's another story)

    Quote Originally Posted by jeedai View Post
    Compare those to the Warden whose viability as a tank has been hotly debated since their launch. While the consensus is that Wardens are capable of tanking anything in the game, most groups (in my experience) would prefer a Guardian. Without a secondary role, there is much less incentive to invite a Warden than the other classes without one.
    This, in conjunction with your comments about the Minstrel, just emphasizes that we need to buff the Warden as a tank, not that Wardens need a non-tank role in a raid.

    ETA: Let me put it this way: can you really see Spear Traited Wardens in Recklessness doing competitive single-target DPS to, say, a Champ or Hunter? Because that's the other role we'll get, because it doesn't take a total rework of the class.
    Last edited by ANewMachine; May 07 2011 at 09:36 PM.
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