A prediction

[zonemaster]

I will start off with saying that I am not in the beta and I do not know anyone in the beta, or if I do they have not said anything about it. I predict that ROI has been falsely advertised. I predict that our "3 new areas" of Dunland, Isengard, and the Gap of Rohan are in fact just one big map/area and that the 2 of these areas (probably the Gap and Isengard) are small mini areas inside it. I bet the Gap is more like Dol Dinen in North Downs and Isengard is like Fornost. I think we will all be severely disappointed.

[hallasan]

I will start off with saying that I am not in the beta and I do not know anyone in the beta, or if I do they have not said anything about it. I predict that ROI has been falsely advertised. I predict that our "3 new areas" of Dunland, Isengard, and the Gap of Rohan are in fact just one big map/area and that the 2 of these areas (probably the Gap and Isengard) are small mini areas inside it. I bet the Gap is more like Dol Dinen in North Downs and Isengard is like Fornost. I think we will all be severely disappointed.

If your speculation is correct then Turbine's Marketing Department should be fed to a mutant star goat while the moderators spend their time consolidating metastasizing 'you lied' threads.

In this scenario Turbine will well deserve the pillory for egregious use of 'marketing-speak'.

[Arbalister]

I will start off with saying that I am not in the beta and I do not know anyone in the beta, or if I do they have not said anything about it. I predict that ROI has been falsely advertised. I predict that our "3 new areas" of Dunland, Isengard, and the Gap of Rohan are in fact just one big map/area and that the 2 of these areas (probably the Gap and Isengard) are small mini areas inside it. I bet the Gap is more like Dol Dinen in North Downs and Isengard is like Fornost. I think we will all be severely disappointed.

So...by your reckoning, the Mines of Moria was all one zone. Since, you know, it was just one big map/area with a bunch of small mini-areas...

[Altwine]

I think I'll second that prediction. The ND analogy is very good, with Isengard as Fornost. Not sure how the Gap will be handled, but I don't think is big enough for it's own "map".

All things said, I love this game, which is why I preordered RoI. However, the more days go by without news, the more I feel I'm gonna be disappointed. It's just counter intuitive that Turbine would not want to start advertising the content more to drum up enthusiasm.

[zonemaster]

So...by your reckoning, the Mines of Moria was all one zone. Since, you know, it was just one big map/area with a bunch of small mini-areas...

Kinda not what I said...... Unless you think Moria was like North Downs then yes it's the same thing. But obviously Moria is not like North Downs. I don't think it will be like moria with a bunch of smaller map region inside of one big area. I firmly believe it is ONE map....that's it. More like Enedwaith. Basically, I predict that there is no map for the Gap of Rohan, and that Isengard is just a small subset area but not really a region at all.

[DarkCntry]

I predict that the sky will be purple with yellow polka-dots. Of course, if it isn't, I can just go "well, I never said when."

In other words, don't predict things unless you have valued models backing up said predictions, otherwise it's just another uneducated guess.

[zonemaster]

I predict that the sky will be purple with yellow polka-dots. Of course, if it isn't, I can just go "well, I never said when."

In other words, don't predict things unless you have valued models backing up said predictions, otherwise it's just another uneducated guess.

Those seem like pretty silly predictions. My predictions are based off of research and pretty hard evidence.

[DarkCntry]

Those seem like pretty silly predictions. My predictions are based off of research and pretty hard evidence.

Really? Where is this research and hard evidence?

[zonemaster]

Really? Where is this research and hard evidence?

Search the Internet

[DarkCntry]

Search the Internet, or check your messages

Your hard evidence is a leak of the map...really?

[zonemaster]

Your hard evidence is a leak of the map...really?

You're right! The maps Turbine has shown us prove otherwise!

Also gaining 10 levels isn't about how many zones you visit. But about how much content is in them and how much XP you get. I'm lvling a new toon and got 10 levels in Evendim and over 10 in Angmar.

[Altwine]

Your hard evidence is a leak of the map...really?

I was hoping that wouldn't be the case, because, all ethical issues aside, if that is his evidence then it is pretty hard evidence. Assuming, of course, that whatever map he's referring to is not something some idiot cooked up in photoshop and regurgitated into the internet to mess with people.

If it is real, then yeah, that's pretty disappointed.

[Kyrra_T]

I will start off with saying that I am not in the beta and I do not know anyone in the beta, or if I do they have not said anything about it. I predict that ROI has been falsely advertised. I predict that our "3 new areas" of Dunland, Isengard, and the Gap of Rohan are in fact just one big map/area and that the 2 of these areas (probably the Gap and Isengard) are small mini areas inside it. I bet the Gap is more like Dol Dinen in North Downs and Isengard is like Fornost. I think we will all be severely disappointed.

I'll even believe you, and I won't call that marketing lying, because well it isn't. 3 Areas is not equal to 3 maps. Those areas are in fact adjacent so them being on the same map isn't unlikely.

[DarkCntry]

You're right! The maps Turbine has shown us prove otherwise!

Also gaining 10 levels isn't about how many zones you visit. But about how much content is in them and how much XP you get. I'm lvling a new toon and got 10 levels in Evendim and over 10 in Angmar.

It's already been pointed out that a map != region size...that alone makes your 'evidence' more of a guesstimate based upon an outside-looking-in source. Unless, of course, you aren't being honest about your experience on how the region is laid out.

I was hoping that wouldn't be the case, because, all ethical issues aside, if that is his evidence then it is pretty hard evidence. Assuming, of course, that whatever map he's referring to is not something some idiot cooked up in photoshop and regurgitated into the internet to mess with people.

If it is real, then yeah, that's pretty disappointed.

As I said above, the map doesn't relate the size of the area. For all anyone knows, the regions are separated and are of sizes that match current regions in-game now. Or it could be what the OP states, the point is, as long as it is smartly done and contains enough content then that is all that should matter.

[MorliX]

If your speculation is correct then Turbine's Marketing Department should be fed to a mutant star goat while the moderators spend their time consolidating metastasizing 'you lied' threads.

In this scenario Turbine will well deserve the pillory for egregious use of 'marketing-speak'.

If you could just move it up to four metaphors per line...mix in a tad more kitschy inter-web lingo, interspersing with the occasional "SAT word"...people will start to perceive your snark and sarcasm more clearly.

[Bhoris_they_spider]

I will start off with saying that I am not in the beta and I do not know anyone in the beta, or if I do they have not said anything about it. I predict that ROI has been falsely advertised. I predict that our "3 new areas" of Dunland, Isengard, and the Gap of Rohan are in fact just one big map/area and that the 2 of these areas (probably the Gap and Isengard) are small mini areas inside it. I bet the Gap is more like Dol Dinen in North Downs and Isengard is like Fornost. I think we will all be severely disappointed.

Did you really predict this? Or are you just posting leaked information and then claiming it is 'a prediction'?

[Aisolon]

I will also make a prediction.

I predict that later today or tomorrow this thread will be forgotten and will have a follow up in yet another thread of negativity and pessimism.

Then again; You know everything in the world is normal when people complain. Having something to complain about seems to make a lot of people happy.

Just wait till the expansion is out and play it.

[Hildilas]

And I thought that the Germans were pessimists...

[Alex53]

I'm not exactly thrilled by what I've seen/read so far about RoI, and I would agree with the sentiment that, unless we get some great surprises turning up from nowhere, it looks like its going to be a very underwhelming expansion. That said, I think this thread is just silly.

[Alex53]

I predict that the sky will be purple with yellow polka-dots. Of course, if it isn't, I can just go "well, I never said when."

In other words, don't predict things unless you have valued models backing up said predictions, otherwise it's just another uneducated guess.

I suspect he has hard evidence but doesnt want to get in trouble.

[Dorothir]

Just search 'lotro leaked isengard map' into google.

[Runesi_EU]

One North Downs sized map would be a real dissapointment to be honest. I didn't expect Moria size but I did expect a lot more than North Downs

[GB-Esty]

One North Downs sized map would be a real dissapointment to be honest. I didn't expect Moria size but I did expect a lot more than North Downs

North Downs is actually one of the biggest maps in the game. In terms of playable area it's probably bigger than Moria just a lot easier to navigate so it seems smaller.

[blazo]

I will start off with saying that I am not in the beta and I do not know anyone in the beta, or if I do they have not said anything about it. I predict that ROI has been falsely advertised. I predict that our "3 new areas" of Dunland, Isengard, and the Gap of Rohan are in fact just one big map/area and that the 2 of these areas (probably the Gap and Isengard) are small mini areas inside it. I bet the Gap is more like Dol Dinen in North Downs and Isengard is like Fornost. I think we will all be severely disappointed.

u are not predicting
u saw the maps on the net!!!

[MurkyMajare]

Zones, regions, whatever sharing the same map is something new.
In all regions up till now they had one map each, and some with sub-area maps.

From what I understand from this topic, there is only one new map (and some sub-area maps), not three as we would expect.

If a piece of the map is called Gap of Rohan, then, no, that is not a new/different zone. It is the same zone as Dunland (or what the map is called).

I mean, does anyone really feel that Enedwaith is eight (or whatever it is) different regions? Of course not.

If it is indeed only one region, I must say I feel a bit had. I pre-ordered two of RoI, but I am more and more weary that we have not heard basically a single thing since the announcement.