Crafting Carry-Alls are sort of worthless....

[maartena]

So, I got the Crafting Carry All, both the large one and the small one.

While the idea behind it is great, I think it is executed quite poorly, and needs some major improvements.

1) The list cannot be sorted, placing items in the back randomly. You can't enlarge the window, and you have no idea how many of the slots are taken up.... counting under 10 might be done within 1 second, but counting to 50 to find out you have 38 slots used, 12 free.... is just plain annoying.
2) Autogather is nice when in the field collecting, but it sucks when crafting improved leathers/ore/wood and such, because they disappear into the carry-all... and you have to take them back OUT to craft the next level of improved leather/ore/wood. So I am constantly changing auto-gather on/off.
3) To expand on the above, you cannot craft from the bag so you constantly have to find stuff, take it out, craft.... and as clicking "gather" also drops vendor bought items such as wax into the carry-all, you have to take those out too.... I usually have a stack of wax in my bag so I can easily craft a leather or two wherever I find a workbench in case a kinnie needs. The carry-all just creates more work.
4) It is stated that because it is bound to account you can easily share.... while this might be true, it isn't all that handy. I had actually expected this "carry all" to be an "account shared" BAG that all toons could access for crafting-only materials, but you end up having to move it into shared storage, so that another character can take it out of the shared vault to use.

At this moment, the carry-all is really only handy as a space-saver in your shared vault, as in you can take it out, stuff a bunch of materials in it, and put it back in the vault.

The BIGGEST failure is that you can't craft directly from the bag. It would be a lot handier if you could take it out of vault, walk to a work bench, do your thing, then put it back into the vault. At least that way it has some value.... but right now, I wouldn't buy it again if the item is ever introduced in the store. A mule-character is almost easier to use if you have a fast loading SSD to switch to that mule.

[Cordovan]

Being able to craft directly from the bag is one of the things we are hoping to bring to the game in the future.

[maartena]

Being able to craft directly from the bag is one of the things we are hoping to bring to the game in the future.

That is good to hear!! Now.... "we are hoping to bring to the game in the future" could mean "well, we may get around to it at some point", so I am hoping it is in the NEAR future, and perhaps sooner than the standard soon, which isn't soon enough!

[SSG_RedPanda]

1) The list cannot be sorted, placing items in the back randomly. You can't enlarge the window, and you have no idea how many of the slots are taken up.... counting under 10 might be done within 1 second, but counting to 50 to find out you have 38 slots used, 12 free.... is just plain annoying.
2) Autogather is nice when in the field collecting, but it sucks when crafting improved leathers/ore/wood and such, because they disappear into the carry-all... and you have to take them back OUT to craft the next level of improved leather/ore/wood. So I am constantly changing auto-gather on/off.
3) To expand on the above, you cannot craft from the bag so you constantly have to find stuff, take it out, craft.... and as clicking "gather" also drops vendor bought items such as wax into the carry-all, you have to take those out too.... I usually have a stack of wax in my bag so I can easily craft a leather or two wherever I find a workbench in case a kinnie needs. The carry-all just creates more work.
4) It is stated that because it is bound to account you can easily share.... while this might be true, it isn't all that handy. I had actually expected this "carry all" to be an "account shared" BAG that all toons could access for crafting-only materials, but you end up having to move it into shared storage, so that another character can take it out of the shared vault to use.

At this moment, the carry-all is really only handy as a space-saver in your shared vault, as in you can take it out, stuff a bunch of materials in it, and put it back in the vault.

The BIGGEST failure is that you can't craft directly from the bag. It would be a lot handier if you could take it out of vault, walk to a work bench, do your thing, then put it back into the vault. At least that way it has some value.... but right now, I wouldn't buy it again if the item is ever introduced in the store. A mule-character is almost easier to use if you have a fast loading SSD to switch to that mule.

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

[DavidmeetHal]

Being able to craft directly from the bag is one of the things we are hoping to bring to the game in the future.

I would much rather have the account shared bag for crafting mats that Maartena mentioned.

[oldsneakers]

I like the carry-all, but what is the point of having a 50 and 10 carry-all? Why not just give us a 60 slot carry-all? I don't get it.

[sapienze]

I used to do this daily giveaway in world chat called.

"Words and Stuff"

It was well received and many a "Thank You" I found in my mailbox.

[Lord.Funk]

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

One nice thing would be that if You put the bags in shared vault any character on Your account could craft directly from it even if they did not carry it with them. Like crafting storages in some other MMO RPG's. Maybe there is some technicla limitation with an older engine and can't be done, but surely would be nice.

As it is now we can't even mail it with all items in (I've not tried it on live yet, so maybe that has been made poosible now ???), but must run back and forth to shared vault each time we want to give materials to another character on the account. That kind of defeats or limit the purpose with "shared".

[Ballie]

That is good to hear!! Now.... "we are hoping to bring to the game in the future" could mean "well, we may get around to it at some point", so I am hoping it is in the NEAR future, and perhaps sooner than the standard soon, which isn't soon enough!

Look at it as a placeholder, food stamps, an IOU. The cheque's (check's) in the post (mail). However it might come before the kinship revamp and the ILI rejig, if we haven't just witnessed that already the last couple of days?

I'm going to wait for the finished product in the store before deciding. But with all the mats I have just one a 50 slot bag is useless and would have to be less than a character slot to be more use than an alt accnt crafter's assistant.

[Starsmith]

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

Something saying how many slots are used would be great (8/10, 35/50).

Sorting--I'd like mine to sort either alphabetically or the same way inventory sorts. FIFO is a little frustrating.

A pie in the sky request: Ability to name the bags! I assume in the future these will be sold in the store, so it would be good to be able to name them so we can tell them apart easily in case we have two of the same size.

Ability to toss things into storage directly from the bags would be nice too.

[Theozor]

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

Personally, I'd be happy with alphabetical sorting, but if it would be possible to sort by tier or by crafting type, that would be even better. And yes, I'd find an "8/10 slots used" display useful.

[Narthalion]

However it might come before the kinship revamp and the ILI rejig, if we haven't just witnessed that already the last couple of days?

Since the LI revamp appears to be scheduled sometime between the 12th of Never and the moment Hell Freezes Over...you're very possibly correct.

[EuriYggdrasil]

I hope the Carry-All is a prequel to the One-Shot Recipe Book that we've wanted since the early days.

[maartena]

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

If I had my wish:

- Allow you to size the carryall as a bag e.g. a 5x10 squares bag with just squares. A 8/10 type counter wouldn't really be needed at that point, as you can clearly see whether you have space and how much. That said, the vault style counter is pretty good.... showing yellow when it is getting close to full, showing red when it is REALLY close to being full.

- Ability to sort anything in any order just like as if you are using a bag. Ores in one corner. Wood in the other. Leather on top. Whatever, just move things around.

- Optionally, have it work like a vault with tabs, so you can sort things in more detail with tabs for certain crafts, whatever you prefer. Obviously you would have to put it in the correct tab yourself, but once its there.... you are set.

As far as a design point of view, I think you missed an opportunity. It should have been a "crafting mats only" account wide bag that you can open with a pre-defined key at any point (or with a button from the crafting panel), any location, on any toon. You just need to get your dwarven behind to a workbench, forge, study or oven....

You get 10 slots if you bought the small one, an additional 50 slots (and an upgrade to 5000 per stack) if you got the large one.... (making it 60 in total) and subsequently, just like buying BAG storage, you can add an additional 10 slots for 495 LP until a certain maximum is reached, whatever that may be. If one got the small one only, they could buy the "5000 per stack" upgrade in the store for e.g. 995 LP, and a few more 10-slot upgrades for 495 LP each.... Ideally, just like bag space, it would be account wide, regardless of server..... but of course the CONTENTS would be different on each server and does not move.

[Ooom]

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

For me, anything short of the GW2 mechanism feels clunky and annoying. It just feels like engineered pain, for no reason I can figure.

[PsychoChicken]

Joining the chorus:
1) I hoped it could be opened by any alt on the server anywhere. That would be nice. Pop all the crafting mats into the carry-all with one click, and worry about vendoring the other stuff later because of all the room that suddenly appeared in your bags.
2) That way, any alt hanging out by a vault could empty the thing. I could log off in a safe place with the active alt after filling the carry-all, let the vault alt do their thing, then go back to the active alt with a now empty carry-all.
3) If that is too hard to do, you could make it so that every alt has the carry-all taking up one spot in the bags. The contents are shared server account wide. Or, just make it a very special bag number 7.
4) If it is something that has to be poked in and out of shared storage, I do not foresee buying the thing.

[Hetweith]

Being able to craft directly from the bag is one of the things we are hoping to bring to the game in the future.

Glad i decided to skip the beta and wait till it's ready for live...

[Ballie]

There's currently a search bar that hopefully helps with the sorting issue. Assuming pie in the sky wishlist, what kind of sorting would you want? On the topic of slots, would a number saying 8/10 slots used or something be useful?

As cord has already stated- we are working on it so you can craft directly from the carry-all so you don't have to worry about dragging this in and out of the carry-all.

I'd go for a 1/100 slots used as I place the first item in.

I'd have sort by tier as an option. Alphabetic is a problem when it changes from a single to more than one.

Maybe a check box to show only materials in the bag that are in the requirement of the current selected recipe. Esp for cooks when we have mats from many tiers to find and we can see how many we can make quickly and buy the vendor items needed.

However I guessing it's going to be a long term storage item for many. Pack up rarely used mats and forget them at least for endgame only players. But honestly until we get you guys to ditch your woeful craft tier scripts and start fixing the last few year of this mess, it all academic. Stop molly-coddling and sort it out.

[cipher_nemo]

There are plenty of issues which should be addressed in future updates:

1. The Crafting Carry-All doesn't remember size or position after logging off. It should be saved between sessions, and should be saved and loaded with the /ui layout commands.
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2. We can't craft from it (yet).
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3. There is no indication of how many items are placed it in compared to how much free space is left. For example: 10/50
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4. We can't change the item order by dragging and dropping.

If just the first 3 were implemented, I'd be very happy. The first 2 and I'd be content.

[Roberto_the_First]

I haven't had the opportunity to buy the Expansion yet, so I haven't seen the carry-alls. I was hoping they worked like the DDO bags, but it sounds like they don't?

[Thurinuor]

Some Feedback:

- Naming the bags would be REALLY nice! That would help a lot!

- An indication for example 10/50 would be helpfull as well (must have!)

- The bags should remember their last position when you log out

- A sorting option would be really cool (for example with dropdown: alphabetical, sorted by type, etc.)

- In the german client the text "Auto gather (automatisch sammeln) is way too big and is cut off.

- Crafting out of the bag is a must have (in my eyes), which should be adressed in the near future

[Lord.Funk]

I used to do this daily giveaway in world chat called.

"Words and Stuff"

It was well received and many a "Thank You" I found in my mailbox.

Btw, I did not see Your PM that You had sent me with information until late yesterday. Thank You for the heads up !!! I have now responded back to You with a PM.

I know it's easy to miss as no notification is given thesedays like it used to back in the days. I rarely check my PM's, not even once a week sometimes months inbetween.

[Raymore]

Another minor point but on the Small Bag, if you have more more than 2,000 of one Item, it does not let you create a second stack of that Item.

[Shatterbones]

I'm actually quite pleased with the carry-alls, minus the sorting issue (trying to find stuff in the large bag). What I need are more carry-alls. Over the years, I have collected crafting items from all levels of crafting for all of the professions. I have 5 main crafters, and they store all of those crafting items. And, I use them, all levels, all professions.

So, I need more carry-alls. And am willing to spend LPs to get them. So, when may we have more, please?

Cheers,
Shatter

[Thorsock]

I'll echo what others have suggested ... in order of my personal preference:

1. Crafting from the bag. I have capped-skill crafters on two servers. Before Carry-Alls, I had a simple system: My Scholar, Cook, Tailor, and Woodworker each carried all their processed mats in their regular bags. My Jeweler carried all the raw and finished gems, as well as processed "soft" metals (copper, silver, gold, etc.). My Weaponsmith carried all the processed "hard" metals (bronze, iron, steel, etc.). My Explorer carried all the raw mats he farms. I keep the "combined-trade" metals (e.g., Kazhad stuff) in Shared Storage. If I cannot craft from the Carry-Alls, I see no reason to change my current system. It seems no more cumbersome than moving items in and out of the Carry-Alls to craft.

2. Yes, even something as simple as a "32/50" showing used capacity would be a great help.

3. Sorting FIFO is annoying and less than helpful. I would settle for the same auto-sort used when I place items in Shared Storage. At least under that system, woods are placed with woods, ores with ores, etc. (for the most part).

Anything more than these three items, I consider "Quality of life" issues. I'd welcome more improvements, but can live with these three.