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  1. #1
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    Has Man-heal been Updated?

    Asking cuz I don't play much a Freep, but rumors says its just a minor heal compared to his former past.
    It was the reason why I'v rolled Man Burglar and Man Hunter over Hobbit or Elf and was pretty usefull in PvMP, it's a sad news if it hasn't been Updated
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    It was never updated, it's still a pitiful 2200-3000 heal that it was 10+ years ago.

    Race of Man is still favourable though because of Duty Bound +5% Max Morale for 10mins (30min cd).

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    It has been updated quite some time ago but it's still fairly irrelevant with its 4400 - 6000 heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicoFTW View Post
    It has been updated quite some time ago but it's still fairly irrelevant with its 4400 - 6000 heal.
    That's bad news, can we at least know why? Will they upgrade it in the future, maybe someone from SSG can replay? Wold be really kind of you if you replay at least to why Man-heal isn't goin to get Updated, Uruk-heal was till last Creep-nerf, hopefully will get fixed, next patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalfnick123 View Post
    That's bad news, can we at least know why? Will they upgrade it in the future, maybe someone from SSG can replay? Wold be really kind of you if you replay at least to why Man-heal isn't goin to get Updated, Uruk-heal was till last Creep-nerf, hopefully will get fixed, next patch.

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    I bet they aren't updating it because of captains...just imagine cappies getting a full heal on top of their already god mode status. SSG struggles with complex problems, balancing racials and classes is something they have proven they are really bad at.
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    Whilst I vehemently believe that it needs to be updated it needs to be changed at the same time. Man heal was about 50% of your morale heal and that’s just too OP now. My yellow burg has 725k morale (fully buffed with capped crit and mastery) in a raid and a 350k heal is very OP considering the pots, thresh bubbles and self heals that are available. Maybe just set it to be a flat 25% that way you don’t need to mess with the numerical values in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao10 View Post
    Whilst I vehemently believe that it needs to be updated it needs to be changed at the same time. Man heal was about 50% of your morale heal and that’s just too OP now. My yellow burg has 725k morale (fully buffed with capped crit and mastery) in a raid and a 350k heal is very OP considering the pots, thresh bubbles and self heals that are available. Maybe just set it to be a flat 25% that way you don’t need to mess with the numerical values in the future
    A 50% heal would not be nearly as OP as you might think. Consider how often a minstrel full-heals his/her group in a raid or instance fight-- a 50% self heal, locked behind a significantly long cooldown, will do almost nothing to save you or the group from death if its headed your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadJuju View Post
    A 50% heal would not be nearly as OP as you might think. Consider how often a minstrel full-heals his/her group in a raid or instance fight-- a 50% self heal, locked behind a significantly long cooldown, will do almost nothing to save you or the group from death if its headed your way.
    Back in SoA, Strength of Morale was comparable to the LM Wisdom of the Council heal, which has a much shorter c/d (and gives an additional buff, stunning attackers for a short time).

    As a Race of Man LM, it was nice, but hardly game-breaking.

    Doing healing equal to an Athelas potion (~100K morale at max level) would be a conservative, but still useful, working point.
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