Promotional side buttons mess up clear:both

[atteSmythe]

Subject says it all. See http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Translations, http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Template:Usage, and http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Template:Price for examples, or roll your own using the {{clear}} template.

[jshanman]

Works fine in Firefox but IE fails as usual...

[Duwis]

Subject says it all. See http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Translations, http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Template:Usage, and http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Template:Price for examples, or roll your own using the {{clear}} template.

Hmm... I'm not seeing an issue with these pages in FF3 or IE7. Have you flushed your browser cache since the update? Might be an old, sticky file in there. If it still persists, post a screenshot (annotated if possible) so I can see what you are seeing.

[atteSmythe]

Works fine in Firefox but IE fails as usual...

Interesting. I just tried on IE, Firefox, and Chrome - it looked fine in IE and Chrome, but Firefox (3.0.4) had the whitespace issue.

[jshanman]

IE6 is where I see the issue. IE7 and Firefox 3.0.4 work ok for me.

IE6 Example: http://www.arda-online.com/images/lb_ie6.jpg

Why am I using IE 6? Well I don't, but I keep it for web testing

[atteSmythe]

Hey Duwis, thanks for a quick response-

I'm guessing that you have a server cluster set up to share the load of the Lorebook. If so, one or more of the servers may have a difference: At your urging, I cleared my cache and retried in Firefox, to no effect. I tried again with IE and Chrome, and while IE still worked properly, Chrome had the same issue as FF!

For what it's worth, this is what it looks like when it's wrong.

Edit: Screenshot taken in FF, but FF and Chrome look the same for me when they're wrong. It's different than what jshanman sees, too.

[Duwis]

IE6 is where I see the issue. IE7 and Firefox 3.0.4 work ok for me.

IE6 Example: http://www.arda-online.com/images/lb_ie6.jpg

Why am I using IE 6? Well I don't, but I keep it for web testing

Wow... that's just... wrong; we'll have to see if anyone here is managed to avoid the IE7 upgrade and try to clear it up. Or we'll just wait until IE8 is out and say we don't support 6 any more.

Hey Duwis, thanks for a quick response-

I'm guessing that you have a server cluster set up to share the load of the Lorebook. If so, one or more of the servers may have a difference: At your urging, I cleared my cache and retried in Firefox, to no effect. I tried again with IE and Chrome, and while IE still worked properly, Chrome had the same issue as FF!

For what it's worth, this is what it looks like when it's wrong.

OK, this is something I do see as well; was expecting you were seeing a page more like the IE6 version jshanman posted. This is being caused by something deep in the MediaWiki core that is adding an extra break tag that blows the spacing out. We're looking into a way to use the MW hooks, etc. to remove this. Barring that, we'll have to decide if we want to live with it or patch up the core itself.

Stay tuned; we'll see what we can do.

[APErebusAU]

Wow... that's just... wrong;

Thats a fairly accurate description of IE6 in general...

IE6 has been the worst thing for the internet...

[atteSmythe]

I just found it odd that clear:both was happy with the menu on the left side of the page for so long, but now that the buttons are on the right, {{clear}} wants to jump to the bottom of them. It's not a big deal when there are only three buttons on the right, but if that list expands, you won't be able to use {{clear}} to keep header lines (and their associated Edit links) from dropping behind right-aligned images.

[jshanman]

Wow... that's just... wrong; we'll have to see if anyone here is managed to avoid the IE7 upgrade and try to clear it up. Or we'll just wait until IE8 is out and say we don't support 6 any more.

Oh what a Happy Day that will be!

[darkchronus]

I'd absolutely love to be able to ignore IE6 while designing web pages. According to our ITS department at the university I'm working at right now we can't ditch IE6 because of Oracle compatibility issues. *grumbles* :P