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  1. #1
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    Exclamation needing help RKing!!! PvMP

    Ok so I have been in Moors for a while have tried multiple builds and still seems I can't do dps like the Rest.... my rk runs around 29% crit rating 57.5k tactical mastery and 20k health. And all this is running lightning stance im barely critting 10ks. And it's hard to solo anything really I have my 15 sec self motivation and I still get destroyed a lot. Maybe my rotations are bad maybe my build is idk I need help on a full build and rotation for soloing any help is greatly appreciated. Oh and this is all PvMP.
    Last edited by negrolicious; Oct 04 2015 at 07:34 PM.

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    You could put this in the RK forum, post your full build so we can see your gear, im assuming it's finesse, mits, crit D or audacity may be a problem but I already know your morale pool is, how is your movement? Post your rotation too.
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  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by negrolicious View Post
    Ok so I have been in Moors for a while have tried multiple builds and still seems I can't do dps like the Rest.... my rk runs around 29% crit rating 57.5k tactical mastery and 20k health. And all this is running lightning stance im barely critting 10ks. And it's hard to solo anything really I have my 15 sec self motivation and I still get destroyed a lot. Maybe my rotations are bad maybe my build is idk I need help on a full build and rotation for soloing any help is greatly appreciated. Oh and this is all PvMP.
    What rank are you and do you have full audacity? Your rank will have a little to say about your DPS seeing as how BFP's give you even more damage now. Some RK's hit for over 20k with their EC's but that's mostly against squishy targets such as wargs. Shocking Words and Static Surge can also very quickly empty the moral bars of these targets. If you're hitting Reavers and War Leaders then expect to do less. Yellow line does give you the option of kiting through your fights and makes using a macro very easy. I also suspect you do not have a macro running for your toon, otherwise you would find maintaining DPS against your targets easier as you kite. However, and you most likely know anyway, red line is where the DPS is at. Maybe that will help explain your less than optimal DPS.

    As for being killed. I would expect that you have taken your audacity into consideration and knowing how it works is not a complex mystery. No well levelled and geared Rune Keeper should have much bother with being killed except due to zergings. Even many of the lower ranks merely need to use their buffs and heals efficiently. You also say it's hard to solo anything. Well no, it is not super cinchie, but you ought to not be being destroyed a lot. Rune Keepers have a good amount of CC, DPS and self heals. You do not mention Armour of Storm. Most RK's are firing up this buff asap. It makes it hard for just about anything to maintain an attack against them. Then just stack up heals while you are relatively bother free. Or you can maintain attacking your hapless foe. Either way or a bit of both

    Are many of your attacks being resisted? You do not say so and I think if it were a problem you would mention it. If it were a problem an extra finesse essence would be needed (you are using the essence gear right?). I also note that you have tried multiple builds, but all in yellow line. You say you cannot do DPS like the rest. Who do you compare/contrast your performance with? What rank are they? You know that they could have anything going on for their toons right, sometimes at the expense of other things. It appears that your tactical mastery should be a bit higher, probably at the expense of some crit (you get the EC crit buff remember). It may well be better to increase your crit/dev damage by having increased tactical mastery. At least 60k TM for a bit less crit. My guess is you are not a very high rank just yet so your 20k health is not made up of much BFP bonus. You might find it a little better to remove some moral for TM also. Many of the low rank freeps are running with relatively small moral pools. They have to as a means of having decent DPS and heals.

    As for your rotations, well there are different options (I also bare in mind you know much of this and I do not think you have not worked out much already). Maybe try this for openers, Writ of Lightning - Essence of Storm - Writ of Lightning - Shocking Words. The first three skills being used there are just about the fastest way to fill your attunment panel, then with SW's you get the best possible stun from it. You will have a bit of time to move. The creep may well have a pot but most only have one. You know the different buffs and debuffs your skills provide right. Again use that same rotation and hope that you get Closing Remarks for your EC. You don't always get it so soon and don't always get the crit anyway. Don't expect a fight to be over very soon unless it's a very low rank. You will have to pop AoS and use your self heals. Timing your skills is important, for e.g. don't use Vivid Imagery straight after that SW's stun. A well placed Fulgurite Runestone is always handy. How you fill out your trait tree and the legacies you use can greatly help.

    You are right to be concerned. Rune Keepers are rarely not a very troublesome target for creep players, to say the least.
    Last edited by MonkeyTamer; Oct 05 2015 at 07:47 AM.

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    A lot depends on timing and skill selection, rather than just going through a set 'rotation'.... especially when fighting melee opponents. Be very mindful of when to best use your CC. Try never to use skills like Shocking Touch, VI a Fulgrite Stone or Shocking Words when your opponent has active immunity to a particular type of CC.... you'll be wasting some of your best opportunities to gain separation. Typically, use smaller CC skills first so opponents waste pots on something like Shocking Touch instead of Shocking Words. Also, perhaps try riffler swapping. It can be done in combat, and the right riffler and PtH makes it exceedingly hard to keep slows on an RK. Lastly, avoid using AotE in 1v1s. It's an OP skill, and if you get to where you rely on it to stay alive, it will hinder your development as an RK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by negrolicious View Post
    Ok so I have been in Moors for a while have tried multiple builds and still seems I can't do dps like the Rest.... my rk runs around 29% crit rating 57.5k tactical mastery and 20k health. And all this is running lightning stance im barely critting 10ks. And it's hard to solo anything really I have my 15 sec self motivation and I still get destroyed a lot. Maybe my rotations are bad maybe my build is idk I need help on a full build and rotation for soloing any help is greatly appreciated. Oh and this is all PvMP.
    OK get 8k more morale. Make sure you're full audacity with mits capped/very close to cap. Doubt there's much more you need to do... Oh and keep up writ of lightning debuff, and be sure to use Fulgurite Runestone at max rank.

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    Solo wise, get more morale, basically stacking morale is far far more potent than stacking mastery, you'll see very little DPS increase with 10k less morale, the hardest solo RKs to kill are those who have the most morale for SM heal and giving themselves a huge barrier that melees will struggle to get down.

    Trait into red for instant SM on the move if you've not already, it's insanely overpowered and if you're a soloer, you'll need it.

    Use CC effectively, as Casi mentioned, this is really important.

    Last piece of advice I can give you is deal with it. Lightning RK is very, very poor, even with 80k mastery you're amazingly RNG reliant for any sort of meaningful DPS and outside of freak burst crits that come out of seemingly nowhere, you're really not going to be hitting any ranked creep for much, such is life.

 

 

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