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I think the game world be a lot better off with out profanity blocker , and instead a replacer, to replace words with other likes "chicken" .."soup" "doodoo"
Here is good article to help Warner Brothers achieve this.
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/cpp/Me...anagement.aspx
http://forums.indiegamer.com/showthr...ofanity-filter
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...ofanity-filter
Since I have 3 days to be on the forums, I might as well do my part . Maybe sopme C++ gurus can help too !
But isn't the profanity blocker already a replacer? What I mean is that bad words are already replaced with )$&:;@".
I don't have anything against your suggestion, I just don't see a need for it.
I've asked for this sort of capability for years (as a chat plug-in that players could write). Now that the LUA API supports chat, it shouldn't be too large of a stretch to do this... just make it so the chat plug-in can modify or suppress chat before displaying it on the client, and give it a bit more information to use to make decisions with.
Uses for such tech:
Note: none of this would mean that the Code of Conduct should change, nor that enforcement should change. If you really want to curse freely, this isn't the game for you.
- Improved/smarter profanity filter.
- Unbounded ignore lists.
- Ability to suppress gold-seller chat based on string matches.
- Ability to make IM-speak chat more readable, to expand common abbreviations, etc.
- Coloring text for people on your friends list.
Khafar
Might as well remove the chat feature...even if profanity was substituted or removed completely, the Internet is notorious in making ways around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by solareus
The filter, in-game, isn't all that bad, the issue is with the fact that it's a fully encompassing one, catching things that are not profanity at all and missing things that can be in other areas of the world.
Well it doesnt bother me, and I dont really see the need for it, but as to the OP's suggestion...replacing profanity with words is different than just censormarks. With censormarks, you know that a word was taken out, so your brain will try to figure out from context what was gone. With replacement words, its less obvious that censorship occurred, which might actually discourage players from profaning, if they know its going to be replaced with something silly-sounding...
Of course, that only works if its implemented in the basecode, not via plugin, otherwise most players will still end up seeing censormarks.
And, of course, these kinds of measures are easily circumvented by things like using zero for O, inserting spaces or periods or slightly changing spelling.
Oh, here's what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by solareus
http://nodwick.humor.gamespy.com/ps2...ate=2006-12-31
and following.
Since some players have difficulties not using profanity, I agree that it might be helpful to filter profanity out of messages before those messages are even sent, and not when they are being received.
This would be an easy way for Turbine to help its customers comply with its own code of conduct.
I understand that no filter is perfect and that some players might attempt to creatively circumvent it, but if Turbine really doesn't want its players to use profanity, the company already has a tool it could employ in that effort.
Turbine already has (and uses) an effective tool to limit the use of profanity in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredelas
It's called a ban.
WAI
;)
Any profanity filter can and will be circumvented by players if they're really intent on making it clear to the whole world they used a word. The simple fact is, there's no true way for Turbine to handle this situation save relying on the community to report anything inappropriate.
One thing I do believe is that the built in blocker needs to be fixed/updated/something. There are words that are part of the game that are filtered if you type them out (the new ####-a-leekie soup comes to mind, or even the hunter skill penetrating shot). This is the only sort of thing I really believe is "broken" in the current profanity system (and, honestly, if they wanted those words filtered, wouldn't it have made more sense to name the items and skills differently?) that could use some TLC.
edit Thank you, forums, for proving my point on the soup, lmao.
Updated link with tinyurl one in order to direct to lorebook page (since the forums also alter the link /facepalm)
Take it to the next level?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdKAxdyz05Y
I'm a grown man, I think they should make adult servers where adults can speak like adults, and children who fear profanity can play in the kiddy pool. Not everyone Ned Flanders, not everyone has weak sensibilities. Some of us prefer to live in a world where people can speak their minds in a way they see fit.
I'm a grown man myself, however sentences laced with profanities does not an adult make...using them doesn't mean you're speaking like an adult, you're generally speaking like someone incapable of articulating correct statements at the current moment. There's no shame, everyone is that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittsmen
Legitimate discourse abides by the rules we all agreed to. Follow the CoC, dont use profanity, and don't expect anything you say via Turbine communications to be private.
To summarize +Sapience, 'Its the use of profanity that's a violation, not the viewing of it. If you type it, or speak it, you're in violation. It doesnt matter if you're the only one in a /userchannel, /kin /f /ra whatever. You send it, you're in violation. There's no private speech as a player, and no profanity permitted. Additionally circumventing the filter to subject other users to it is even more of a violation.
Khafar just because you disagree with me, doesn't mean my views are outrageous or out of place. I will continue to voice my opinion as long as I have a tongue in my mouth, feel free to try and take that from me.
What rules have I broken? I am simply offering a very consenting view point that further censorship of the individual is not needed, and in my mind both unwarranted and unwanted. I suggested that Turbine offer a server for adults. I believe that means I am requesting a place were the rules are different.
Your mind is closing down harder and harder with each passing moment. Please think of what is being said before spouting your nonsense and calling for my ban. If it happens it happens, I'm a big boy I'll deal with it, you don't need to throw idol threats at me. Your just being silly now.
Crell has spared me from having to type a wall of text from my phone and is essentially correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
The EULA, TOS, and COC cover this discussion fully and all players agree to them when they log in. In addition, use of the forums is acceptance of the community guidelines, which a number of posts here violate.
I'd encourage everyone to read them again.