Hobbit Burg weapons?

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Sep 10 2018, 08:49 AM
Woldo

Hobbit Burg weapons?

Which LI weapon do you prefer for a hobbit burg club or dagger? If club can two be used in each hand? Or will it slow down the off hand?
Sep 10 2018, 09:30 AM
Dinara

I only ever used daggers, mostly because my impression of a burglar should be silent and quick. Daggers would be silent, where clubs would make a lot of noise basing heads in ;)
Seriously though, I think they changed the weapon speeds a few years ago so that they are all the same, so it shouldn't matter if you choose to use the clubs.
Sep 10 2018, 09:47 AM
Woldo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinara

I only ever used daggers, mostly because my impression of a burglar should be silent and quick. Daggers would be silent, where clubs would make a lot of noise basing heads in ;)
Seriously though, I think they changed the weapon speeds a few years ago so that they are all the same, so it shouldn't matter if you choose to use the clubs.

Thanks. Daggers it is.
Sep 13 2018, 07:54 PM
Occum

I use clubs, since there's a hobbit trait that give +5% club damage. Unless it really doesn't, but it's too late for me now.
Sep 14 2018, 06:53 AM
Maximilan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinara

I only ever used daggers, mostly because my impression of a burglar should be silent and quick. Daggers would be silent, where clubs would make a lot of noise basing heads in ;)
Seriously though, I think they changed the weapon speeds a few years ago so that they are all the same, so it shouldn't matter if you choose to use the clubs.

I consider the club to be anesthetic so they don't scream too loud when I disembowel them with the dagger in my other hand! Just being the thoughtful hobbit I am ;)

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Originally Posted by Occum

I use clubs, since there's a hobbit trait that give +5% club damage. Unless it really doesn't, but it's too late for me now.

I always use a club for my LI but I've also used a dagger instead of a club in my off hand, depends on the weapon stats.
Sep 14 2018, 07:04 AM
Waylock

Quote:

Originally Posted by Occum

I use clubs, since there's a hobbit trait that give +5% club damage. Unless it really doesn't, but it's too late for me now.

Yes, hobbits should get a +5% for clubs, but burglars get +5% for daggers. So there's no difference there.

But I wonder how you can sneak around with 2 tree stumps hanging from your belt...
Sep 14 2018, 09:36 PM
Occum

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Originally Posted by Waylock

Yes, hobbits should get a +5% for clubs, but burglars get +5% for daggers. So there's no difference there.

But I wonder how you can sneak around with 2 tree stumps hanging from your belt...

I am embarrassed to say I didn't know about the +dagger damage ! Thanks.
When it's time to upgrade my off-hand I'll look at daggers. It's too late for my imbued LI.
Sep 15 2018, 02:06 AM
Fingerz

Other than the cosmetic appearance the only difference between the dagger and club (if you have hobbit 5% dmg trait) is the tiny % chance passive bonus.

Dagger - auto attack crit
Club - slow chance

For my main hand I tend to use club for Yellow line and dagger for Red as chances are your focus is on debuffs and cc when your yellow traited
Sep 15 2018, 03:05 AM
Boraxxe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerz

Other than the cosmetic appearance the only difference between the dagger and club (if you have hobbit 5% dmg trait) is the tiny % chance passive bonus.

Dagger - auto attack crit
Club - slow chance

For my main hand I tend to use club for Yellow line and dagger for Red as chances are your focus is on debuffs and cc when your yellow traited

You actually play a burg in Yellow Line?

How can you stand it? Tell me why.

There must be something that gets you to try that. I wonder what it is.
I don't mean to imply that it's not a good choice for you. I just have never been able to get past the slo-mo aspect.

But I may be (probably am) missing something.
Sep 15 2018, 04:59 AM
Fingerz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boraxxe

You actually play a burg in Yellow Line?

How can you stand it? Tell me why.

There must be something that gets you to try that. I wonder what it is.
I don't mean to imply that it's not a good choice for you. I just have never been able to get past the slo-mo aspect.

But I may be (probably am) missing something.

Burg yellow line is the main raid line and is the trait line more akin to the original burg class before trait trees.
How could any burg that does more than solo stuff not have an optimum yellow line??
Just to add that blue line is broken with the scaled debuffing gambles and is severely nerfing the rest of your raid DPS if you raid on it as you loose out on the Inc reveal weakness dmg, enrage X2 and snag bonus from yellow.
Sep 15 2018, 01:32 PM
Boraxxe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fingerz

Burg yellow line is the main raid line and is the trait line more akin to the original burg class before trait trees.
How could any burg that does more than solo stuff not have an optimum yellow line??
Just to add that blue line is broken with the scaled debuffing gambles and is severely nerfing the rest of your raid DPS if you raid on it as you loose out on the Inc reveal weakness dmg, enrage X2 and snag bonus from yellow.

OK, I get it now...raid build.
I play about 75% solo and the rest duo and the burgs I have are all either red-line with the extra points in yellow, or blue-line with the rest split between red and yellow.
And I never have 2 setups for any characters...kind of a personal decision.
Thanks for taking the time to fill me in.
Sep 15 2018, 01:39 PM
Hammadryad

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Originally Posted by Boraxxe

OK, I get it now...raid build.
I play about 75% solo and the rest duo and the burgs I have are all either red-line with the extra points in yellow, or blue-line with the rest split between red and yellow.
And I never have 2 setups for any characters...kind of a personal decision.
Thanks for taking the time to fill me in.

My Burg is pure solo and never plays anything but Yellow, it's a Burglar, not an assassin. How can I stand it? Because I play my characters as if they were really from MIddle Earth and I have never read anything in the lore that supports a Gambler or Assassin style of play, whereas Yellow line suits just fine. Burgs are meant to be sneaky tricksters otherwise they would be Champs!
Sep 15 2018, 02:06 PM
Maximilan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boraxxe

I play about 75% solo and the rest duo and the burgs I have are all either red-line with the extra points in yellow, or blue-line with the rest split between red and yellow.

Same and same - I have two setups and those are it. I used to have a yellow line and it's good if with 3 or more.

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Sep 15 2018, 02:12 PM
Boraxxe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammadryad

My Burg is pure solo and never plays anything but Yellow, it's a Burglar, not an assassin. How can I stand it? Because I play my characters as if they were really from MIddle Earth and I have never read anything in the lore that supports a Gambler or Assassin style of play, whereas Yellow line suits just fine.

Yes, to each his own.
And I think you are correct about the lore. I guess I just don't have the patience for the yellow line.
I really enjoy sneaking and backstabbing and soloing some 6-man quests with that tactic. But that certainly was not how JRRT portrayed his burglar.
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