Crit Rating Cap question

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Dec 13 2020, 09:27 AM
dac123

Crit Rating Cap question

I have a 130 champ in progress and I have a question regarding crit rating. Currenty I stand at 491,718 crit rating or 21.9%. I have 5 points traited in the first tier red skill, Critical Chance Increase, and that 5% bumps me up to 26.9%. If 630,000 is the crit cap of 25%, do I still need to increase my 491,718 to 630,000 with crit rating essences? I'm already over 25% because I'm at 26.9%, so aren't I technically "at cap"? I just want to make sure I understand how it works so I can start making decisions on what to put in my remaining essence slots. Thank you in advance!
Dec 13 2020, 10:51 AM
Gorikon

Cap of 25% critical chance refers to the maximum percentage you gain from crit rating. So...
- passives/buffs that add to crit rating will bring you closer to the 25% mark, but not over it.
- passives/buffs that add to crit percentage are added to the percentage you get from crit rating. This can (and will) exceed the 25% mark.

So, you'll want to bring your crit rating close to 630k, to get as many of these tasty critical hits as possible. Certain other classes like cappy may give you a crit rating buff, so it is usually fine to be a bit below 630k.
Apr 23 2021, 01:17 AM
MimDerZwerg

How to reach 40%

I am capped with crit (700k) and got the extra percentage from all traits. (30% melee crit rating)

Nevertheless with crit proc on Wild Attack my parses only reach ~33% where I see many parses on youtube with above 40% crit rates.

What am I missing?
Apr 23 2021, 04:55 AM
Gertes

Quote:

Originally Posted by MimDerZwerg

I am capped with crit (700k) and got the extra percentage from all traits. (30% melee crit rating)

Nevertheless with crit proc on Wild Attack my parses only reach ~33% where I see many parses on youtube with above 40% crit rates.

What am I missing?

There is a trait in redline, it's called Vicious Strikes. It increases your strike skill crit chance by 10%.
In addition you can have the proc essence with 5% crit chance for 10sec and also true heroics in redline give you additional 10% crit for a short duration.
Apr 23 2021, 07:17 AM
MimDerZwerg

Assuming Yellow with parts of Red line

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertes

There is a trait in redline, it's called Vicious Strikes. It increases your strike skill crit chance by 10%.
In addition you can have the proc essence with 5% crit chance for 10sec and also true heroics in redline give you additional 10% crit for a short duration.

I am sorry, I was talking about Yellow Line.

Vicious strikes - check (completely with deep strikes)
true heroics give 10% Melee on Yellow line (applies only to red line as you stated)
Crit essence - check (never proc because i got the 5% damage also which always procs)

I always try keep strike skills on CD but I guess rest is proc chance.

25% - crit cap
5% - red line crit
10% - vicous strikes
5% - proc wild attack
5% - proc essence
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50% at max proc
40% on strike skills
30% on blade skills

So I guess I have to use more strike skills to get the advantage
Apr 23 2021, 09:33 AM
RicoFTW

Quote:

Originally Posted by MimDerZwerg

I am sorry, I was talking about Yellow Line.

Vicious strikes - check (completely with deep strikes)
true heroics give 10% Melee on Yellow line (applies only to red line as you stated)
Crit essence - check (never proc because i got the 5% damage also which always procs)

I always try keep strike skills on CD but I guess rest is proc chance.

25% - crit cap
5% - red line crit
10% - vicous strikes
5% - proc wild attack
5% - proc essence
---------------------
50% at max proc
40% on strike skills
30% on blade skills

So I guess I have to use more strike skills to get the advantage

Get the 5% crit trigger instead, 5% damage one is garbage compared to 5% crit. 5% damage goes on top of mastery. And don't forget the 2.5% fellowship damage in case you have not got that one either.
Apr 26 2021, 02:00 AM
MimDerZwerg

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicoFTW

Get the 5% crit trigger instead, 5% damage one is garbage compared to 5% crit. 5% damage goes on top of mastery. And don't forget the 2.5% fellowship damage in case you have not got that one either.

I abandoned the 5% damage and now the crit procs as expected. The fellowship damage is also slotted.
I reached about 38% now and about 120k DPS (dwarf).

Still far from 190k yellow traces I saw.
I guess I am missing 10% strike damage but this still does not make 70k DPS
I am not sure if the missing crit rate is the problem.

Also need one 445 rune on 2 hand weapon which shouldn't make that difference.

https://i.ibb.co/ZVVb1X7/traits.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/LZRtRx4/2.jpg
Apr 26 2021, 07:57 AM
Gertes

It is always hard to diagnose what the problem is without proper infmormation.
The best way to help you would be if you upload a video of a parse or to at least chare a screenshot of your damage breakdown.
Apr 26 2021, 08:30 AM
MimDerZwerg

I will try to record a trace - thank you in advance.

Pretty sure my rotation or skill priority is not the best.
Apr 26 2021, 09:32 AM
RicoFTW

Also keep in mind that majority of those parses are done in glass cannon with anything between 900k - 1mil crit while for raiding you would normally be in a morale build but crit/mastery being just about capped with cappy buffs etc.
Apr 26 2021, 11:00 AM
Gertes

Quote:

Originally Posted by RicoFTW

Also keep in mind that majority of those parses are done in glass cannon with anything between 900k - 1mil crit while for raiding you would normally be in a morale build but crit/mastery being just about capped with cappy buffs etc.

Yeah also stuff like hope token, Portant or 5% attack scrolls somewhat blur the results.
I always try to go for a realistic and repeatable parse, even fervor pots can make a huge difference depending on your crit/devastate luck during its duration.