I started watching the Witcher on Netflix tonight since I enjoyed the first Witcher game.
I actually like it, good stuff.
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I started watching the Witcher on Netflix tonight since I enjoyed the first Witcher game.
I actually like it, good stuff.
Unlike RoP, Witcher is OK. I really like it. Granted, they raced swapped some characters but most of it works because those characters are usually from the magic society which is diverse by nature and hey, these guys use portals. Otherwise, they got societies mostly right, the established realms seem to be ethnically uniform for the most part and the biggest diversity would be due to exile among the elves (the chaos that ensued when their kingdoms where lost, survivors were driven into the wilds, became slaves and all that) and, most of all, this is a world where Conjuction of the Spheres is the thing... so there is a bit of historical chaos involved that allows for more diversity. Except, there was ONE glaring problem - evidently Netflix has a hardcore "representation quota" for its new shows so the solution to this problem was turning dryads, mythical creatures with bows, into... regular black tribe from Brooklyn with Wakanda spears :P It comes across almost as a joke (if only it wasn't such a big shame! seeing actual dryads would have been cool), but on the plus side S2 doesn't bother with such forced quotas no more and even makes a funny ironic reference to the unfortunate Brooklyn. Now, THAT'S how you handle ridiculous quotas... be done with them, minimalize the damage as best as possible and move on, do your thing.
Some would say it's bad and unfaithful to canon, especially after S2, including other reasons than race and it wouldn't be completely wrong but... the truth of the matter is Sapkowski had a very unhealthy obsession with impregnation :D Which was, most of the time, like a forced plot point without merit and all of the cool, narratively intriguing stuff, the world's history and mysteries (including his villains!) he just dropped and decided it's time to end the saga :P What his stories really cared about was Geralt and Ciri just walking around aimlessly from place to place, searching for each other and bumping into random stuff... and impregnation... So that the series, just like the games, will do away with his obsession and is trying to actually do something interesting with these bigger things is a plus. May not be exactly faithful but sounds like a good adaptation so far and I like the characters and the dynamic, they have some cool ideas. This is how you do a series that offers some diversity, uses its own original ideas and takes on the world (and expands the world), but still stays faithful to canon ideas and characters.
I just finished the second episode. I wish I would have watched htis earlier. This is how fantasy should be, so much better than RoP.
For a series, the special effects aren't bad.
It's generally okay but one thing I found off-putting (the overdone random diversity aside) was that some of the costumes are really generic (there's a lot of different period stuff all mashed together) or in some cases, like the infamous Nilfgard 'scrotum armour', are just really bad. Some stupid stuff like Yennefer riding about the countryside dressed to the nines with not even a riding-cloak. And I particularly hated Jaskier's mulberry-coloured shiny 'leather' coat (bletch!). And Geralt's black leather armour is super D&D with all the pointless rivets and studs - I know it's there to show off Henry Cavill's impressive physique (he's a big lad!) but jeez, it's meant to be something to wear when fighting monsters, it should look rugged rather than like fetishistic LARP gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
I think that Witcher series is too plagued with "watch, do not think" attitude we're experiencing nowadays. Helmets made of paper. Yennefer on the run but wearing a bright purple cloak. Calanthe insulting a Nilf ambassador in public (is she a queen or a pesky shrew?) The siege of Cintra with archers shooting at the magical barrier (hey, we've hitting that wall for 1HP per shot! - Pity we've forgotten battering rams). A brothel arriving at thoroughly hidden Caer Morhen, then disappearing into thin air during a monster fight... Everything oversimplified, compared to the books, and something without reasoning at all. I prefer if events happen because they were caused by previous events and actions, and not "just because". You can't make me cry for a helpless elf baby killed by bad [I can't even remember who] - the child was extremely important to the whole elven race and should have been guarded night and day. Fire magic being forbidden and Yennefer paying for it dearly, but in the animated film "Nightmare of the Wolf" a sorceress shoots fireballs without any consequences. Heck, they couldn't even get their own lore right.
I do like the Wild Hunt game, though I only managed to get my Geralt to level 2, having difficulties with the combat system =) but... from the very beginning, they've got Yennefer right (which the series didn't - their Yen is presented as strong but I'm not seeing it, she does nothing to prove it).
Asimov's Foundation, Jordan's Wheel of Time, both Witchers - with an apparent crisis of ideas, will there be more and more and more? I haven't watched RoP and don't care, really. Enjoying you discussing it, though =)
If I could recommend something, it would be "Dark" series on Netflix. It is a German production and features a small town in Germany where children start to disappear, and it's connected to a similar line of events 35 years ago. This description looks pretty much like "Stranger things", but while Stranger things feel as heavily influenced by Stephen King, Dark is a pure time-travel sci-fi. Personally I find parts of sci-fi reasoning somewhat far-fetched (forced to tie the plot into intricate loops), but the characters are living and breathing people.
Foundation had its moments (the interplay between the dynastic clones was interesting, and something they invented for the show) but something just wasn't quite right. Same with Raised by Wolves, for that matter (great ideas, not quite there) but high-concept stuff like that is tricky. (Especially if it's as allegorical and heavy on the religious symbolism as RbW is).Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySelene
Yeah, entirely agree - while I didn't try to follow all the twists and turns it's probably up there with Primer for gnarly time-travel. It did drag a bit but it had a fitting ending (I won't spoil it for anyone else reading this, but you know what I mean) and oh boy, they weren't kidding with the name, were they?Quote:
If I could recommend something, it would be "Dark" series on Netflix. It is a German production and features a small town in Germany where children start to disappear, and it's connected to a similar line of events 35 years ago. This description looks pretty much like "Stranger things", but while Stranger things feel as heavily influenced by Stephen King, Dark is a pure time-travel sci-fi. Personally I find parts of sci-fi reasoning somewhat far-fetched (forced to tie the plot into intricate loops), but the characters are living and breathing people.
Well, maybe if you watched RoP you would appreciate the Witcher a bit more. All that's been said here is true, undoubtedly, but there would be always a certain degree of level of disbelief I have for shows like this. With RoP it's like utterly off the charts so in no good conscience I could compare it with Witcher :P And most of all, Witcher actually writes their characters good and I find them compelling, even Yennefer seems ok to me after S2 finale.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySelene
Well, with the Foundation I think I know where exactly lies the problem... even though show and plots and action look solid enough, everything related to the idea behind psychohistory behind this show simply brings me to laugh, the same way RoP does! The way these guys talk about mathematics borders on religious cult and it's made all the funnier by the fact Seldon (in this version anyway lol) outright engineers the crisis (that he says his craft allowed him to predict lol) and then turns himself into not 1 but 2 versions of super conscious AI who treat it like a game of sorts and plan for immediate demise of civilization, which only happens because of what they put into motion and continue to put into motion... this is made all the funnier by all the faces and mannerism his actor makes, so it IS a great acting (and even writing) unlike RoP, but the idea just seems... off and laughable, like he is the villain there, and what I know of it - not true to canon character, not in the slightest. In the books the guys were just watching the videos of him discussing these crisis events pre-recorded when he was still alive. The show version of Seldon is just a program walking around like he owns the place, in wait for his brand new fleet that will be put together by his followers, like maybe he is trying to pull Ultron or something, who knows how many copies of this guy are out there :P
I'm about to start episode 8. Seriously, I really like this show. So far(I've only seen 7 episodes so far) my favorite guest characters are the gold dragon and his 2 sidekicks. Those 3 were awesome.
I wonder how the special effects people made the actress playing Yennefer look like a hunchback, the hump looked so real during the love scene.
From reading the responses here, it looks like I'm in the minority with how much I like this show. Sorry guys, I have to say that I love it.
A bit more, yeah. But they've got some traits in common.Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
And then there's House of the Dragon which is way better and leaves the Witcher looking sad.
The irony:Quote:
Well, with the Foundation I think I know where exactly lies the problem... even though show and plots and action look solid enough, everything related to the idea behind psychohistory behind this show simply brings me to laugh, the same way RoP does! The way these guys talk about mathematics borders on religious cult and it's made all the funnier by the fact Seldon (in this version anyway lol) outright engineers the crisis (that he says his craft allowed him to predict lol) and then turns himself into not 1 but 2 versions of super conscious AI who treat it like a game of sorts and plan for immediate demise of civilization, which only happens because of what they put into motion and continue to put into motion... this is made all the funnier by all the faces and mannerism his actor makes, so it IS a great acting (and even writing) unlike RoP, but the idea just seems... off and laughable, like he is the villain there, and what I know of it - not true to canon character, not in the slightest. In the books the guys were just watching the videos of him discussing these crisis events pre-recorded when he was still alive. The show version of Seldon is just a program walking around like he owns the place, in wait for his brand new fleet that will be put together by his followers, like maybe he is trying to pull Ultron or something, who knows how many copies of this guy are out there :P
Hait Seldon: End the genetic dynasty!
Also Hari Seldon: Can't trust the Foundation to do its thing without him and makes AI copies of himself
Isaac Asimov: spins gently in his grave (he's slowed down some since I, Robot, lol)
In the series, wasn't the idea that if the crisis came earlier then humanity wouldn't fall so far, that the longer it was held off the worse it'd be? I can't remember how it went in the books, it's been more than forty years since I read them...
I mean, I do acknowledge some of the flaws, but in general, yeah I really like it too and can't wait for the next one (or the prologue series about the elves, I guess this one will be first to come).Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidmeetHal
Nah, I would say there is a giant black hole of a difference between the two. As for HotD I do enjoy it and it's a good show, yeah, it's definitely better in terms of small nuance stuff, dramatized characters, kingdom/court affairs, costume accuracy and all that, but GoT is, well... GoT. Meanwhile, Witcher is really doing some cool things with all the monster fantasy stuff, other dimensions, the Wild Hunt, and who knows, perhaps even the frost, and on top of it their Geralt seems done well enough and captivating enough. Compare that with RoP's Galadriel... or ANY character in RoP (well, maybe Elendil is ok? and his elvish sounds actually nice)Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU
But it's actually far worse. LOL. I mean, sure, it's not outright stated (yet? lol) but the way the terrorist attack happens at the beginning (and how Seldon timed his entire court play almost perfectly...) plus during the course of the series it looks like the two planets are apparently innocent and there was mention of someone very skilled who organized this attack but can't be traced by imperial forces because this certain someone is apparently so OP... I would say Seldon planned this attack :P Like, even the AI copy looks like it's something too advanced and yet he did it, so how OP is he exactly :P I remember reading something about Asimov planning an alien crisis but ultimately didn't come to pass but the show evidently is setting up aliens so it'll probably be AI Seldon Empire vs aliens later on..Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU
I said 'some traits in common', not that they were the same in general. But there's an element of generic fantasy to both in sets and costumes, random diversity and some modernisms in the dialogue. And we all want to know what's happened to Jaskier's hat ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
But there's nothing about the persuasive ambience that GoT and HotD have that the Witcher series couldn't also have had. The Witcher games were more evocative of a specifically Eastern European-style quasi-period setting (you know, like it's supposed to have). Just a pet peeve.Quote:
As for HotD I do enjoy it and it's a good show, yeah, it's definitely better in terms of small nuance stuff, dramatized characters, kingdom/court affairs, costume accuracy and all that, but GoT is, well... GoT.
Foundation S2 is apparently being filmed although it'll likely be at least another year before we get to see it. Hold that thought about what Seldon's up to.
One other thing, The Peripheral will be out later this month (that's based on a William Gibson novel) and judging by the trailer it certainly looks the part. I shall watch :)
There is but then again, the dryads they put into the drawer and the rest of it is either somehow plausible in-universe or subtle and conveyed well through the characters and plots surrounding them, so doesn't distract much and one can actually enjoy the show. Pandemic aside, they've also showed some effort by filming in Eastern Europe, some of the scenes are pretty neat. They even changed the terrible Nifgaard armor in S2, apparently, because I don't remember seeing the ridiculous black dirt anywhereQuote:
Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU
No, it really isn't subtle nor somehow plausible in-world, not if you know the character backgrounds and where they're supposed to be from. It's akin to LOTR in that and for the exact same reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
No, it doesn't work with me - watch something extremely bad to feel that X wasn't so bad, in comparison. Though I remember having a lot of questions about LOTR movies, not even "where's Tom Bombadil?", but more mundane things - such as, why Frodo and Sam sleep on a very dangerous-looking stair and do not tie themselves to something so that they wouldn't fall. And those Moria bridges falling right behind you, looks impressive but totally not reliable. But after 20 years LOTR trilogy feels like an ideal adaptation.Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
The imprerial clone dynasty storyline was the only thing interesting (and - all hail Emperor Thranduil!) And he even wasn't in the books.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU
The major problem with Foundation is that they threw the very idea of the book - its very substance - out the window. The idea, namely: history is governed by laws, and you cannot influence a global process simply by pushing in the direction of your choice. The Foundation should have been a seed planted by Seldon in the right time and place, to influence the history very gently and gradually. Nothing a single individual would do would matter.
The series sends quite an opposite message.
We got Salvor Hardin - her supernatural power coming out of nowhere, she's a kind of a Mary S...... I mean, a mix between a fail-safe device and deus ex machina. True, the book had fail-safe devices for The Plan aka Foundation II, and this way the show tries to introduce it, but... I couldn't help watching all the (mostly unnecessary) battle scenes thinking "and what if a piece of debris just fell on her head? Out with your priceless individual, Mr. Seldon?"
And, Gaal Dornick... heck, why should a math genius look like a teenage girl? And hey, she's coming from a planet where science and knowledge was under a penalty of death. Where did she study? How did she even hear of the math contest? She should work her butt on math for years, not just have it handed to her on a silver plate.
Other faults are that most heroes are boring and do not attach emotionally (we see the emperor executing a bunch of NPCs you don't care about), and the show trying to hammer on your feelings by simple twists which fall apart when you think of it. Take the extremely cruel but totally senseless punishment of the gardener girl. Tyrants do these things IRL only to scare their people into obedience. The way it was presented, no one would ever know about it. It makes no sense to kill a bunch of random people just to horrify your prisoner. She would never see the light of day anyway, while questions would be raised, rumors start, and the bloody tyrant wishes to appear good. Emotions, emotions, watch, do not think.
And as the final straw... Asimov's robots Could Not Kill a Human. That was the First Law.
They even list Asimov's daughter in series' credits. Probably like with Tolkien's grandson in RoP, they needed a name to link what bears any resemblance to the original work only in title.
Back to Witcher: go on enjoying it, but the game is way better ;P Games, with their interactivity, are truly a new form of art.
That's what I was getting at, it's contradictory: on the one hand the genetic dynasty is courting disaster by clinging to the idea that an individual (or at least their genes) do matter as if that's the only way to achieve continuity, and on the other Hari Seldon evidently considers himself indispensable. When really it's meant to be that individuals don't matter, knowledge and ideas do so that Seldon's ideas - psychohistory in particular - and the knowledge preserved by the Foundation are what really matter to the future, not the man himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySelene
Salvor Hardin's ability does indeed come out of left field and yeah, Mary Sue.
Yeah, it's glossed over and I found that unbelievable. That planet's a rather laboured allegory - that the climate doesn't care if your religious beliefs make you anti-science, you're going to end up underwater - and yeah, it's a damn good question why a maths genius should be an especially attractive teenage girl from such a backwards planet. I agree, they should have shown her working her butt off in secret for years, then maybe win a scholarship to go study off-world, get a degree and then eventually a doctorate - and then that'd be the point Seldon invited her to join him and the real plot would start.Quote:
And, Gaal Dornick... heck, why should a math genius look like a teenage girl? And hey, she's coming from a planet where science and knowledge was under a penalty of death. Where did she study? How did she even hear of the math contest? She should work her butt on math for years, not just have it handed to her on a silver plate.
I think the idea might have been that the regime's ossified because of the genetic dynasty and that they've taken to being extremely cruel to anyone who disturbs the imperial order of things (a familiar concept), but I'd agree that it was more intended for our consumption as typically that would be intended pour encourager les autres and there's no point in doing that in secret.Quote:
Other faults are that most heroes are boring and do not attach emotionally (we see the emperor executing a bunch of NPCs you don't care about), and the show trying to hammer on your feelings by simple twists which fall apart when you think of it. Take the extremely cruel but totally senseless punishment of the gardener girl. Tyrants do these things IRL only to scare their people into obedience. The way it was presented, no one would ever know about it. It makes no sense to kill a bunch of random people just to horrify your prisoner. She would never see the light of day anyway, while questions would be raised, rumors start, and the bloody tyrant wishes to appear good. Emotions, emotions, watch, do not think.
That'd critically depend on how 'human' was defined, as far as the robot's thought processes went - if that was something that could be altered (I seem to remember that it was built in on a fundamental level in the original Robot stories so that it couldn't be, but perhaps with sufficiently advanced technology that might have become possible).Quote:
And as the final straw... Asimov's robots Could Not Kill a Human. That was the First Law.
Depends, she might have something more to offer. I wouldn't jump to conclusions just because Simon Tolkien is a bit of a berk ;)Quote:
They even list Asimov's daughter in series' credits. Probably like with Tolkien's grandson in RoP, they needed a name to link what bears any resemblance to the original work only in title.
I'm halfway through the second season. I never imagined I would like this show that much, it pretty much keeps in spirit with the original IP.
Yes, it's got the spirit but it also gives it its own spin (in non-book way that not everyone likes, but unlike RoP, it does it better, for a reason and with a good plan, so that's why it works). Just wait for that ending, I loved it and how they're doing this
I'm also surprised I liked it so much. I hope they don't disappoint us with the prequel mini series about the elves and won't shove fake diversity in droves into their preexisting societies... because that would undermine any and all excuse some stuff of s1 and s2 of the Witcher has in-universe for these things.
Yeah, I'm worried about that too. Right now the show has the perfect balance where it doesn't feel forced.Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
That's a great observation I've missed - maybe because I totally lost interest at that point, things ceased to make sense for me and yeah, Seldon's hologram and Gaal as a plot device again, why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU
I've remembered another addition to "why it doesn't make sense". The Emperor is NOT shown as running the Empire. At all. Stating explicitly that the young clone should stay inside the palace and never leave. If you think it's such a great idea to run the state with your genetic twins - they're less likely to fail you, they won't stray off the path - and you have the whole galaxy to rule, why not make 100 or 500 clones of you? They will work relentlessly, acting as the supreme power. This Emperor does nothing. Wouldn't change much if the genetic dynasty failed, really.
...In the meanwhile I watched 1st episode of RoP (I was in a particular mood, like... "it might even go okay with beer" :) AND... it's as bad as other reviews implied. "Galadriel" is beyond cringe, she doesn't act, she doesn't show any emotions at all, just glares at everything 1/2 of the episode's time. 5 seconds of SOME battle look like all the interesting stuff happened off-screen and now we're left with aftermath, not really caring as we haven't seen what was before. "Elrond" has a haircut from a modern fashion magazine. All the elves are plain-looking (not to say ugly). The scene of climbing The Wall to get to the Black Castle (abandoned by Night's Watch in the previous age) by sticking your dagger into icicles - commented in the way of "that's her 500th climb, she got ported to the rez circle all the previous ones" and "you idiot, there's a STONE WALL next to the ice, maybe you'll TRY to hold on to it?" Calling a hobbit girl "Elanor" (a flower from Lorien), shortened to "Nori" (who was a male dwarf) is okay only for a RPer IRL (or for a character name in a MMO - people are having fun, so why not?), but never in a serious writing.
Not interested in the stories, in characters, even in references to JRRT. I'm totally not a Tolkien geek and I hardly remember what happened in 2nd age according to the lore. I just like LOTR the way it's written, a story in a beautiful old world, based on mythology and archetypes, having the magic not in Harry Potter-spellcasting style, but subtle, not to be trifled with, in the way where great wisdom brings great sorrows. And again and again little details in RoP are off-Tolkien, not only the existence of a "black elf" but how he's caring for a mortal woman (she's got a son and for a long-lived elf it would mean she'd already chosen another man. It's not a Tolkien kind of story - more like what Sapkowsky or Martin would do). And the scene where Arondir walks into a tavern and a random drunk starts to insult him for entirely no reason... that looks more like "a witcher walks into a tavern" scene than anything in LOTR universe, and hey, why would you suddenly be rude to a random guy with Two Big Swords? Not scared to have your head busted in, as elves are kind? It should be either mythological approach (as in LOTRO where Arondir would have gotten respect), or a realistic one (where you're scared of a skilled warrior, regardless of your harsh feelings about him). Can't be both.
What's wrong with female characters nowadays? They've stopped being interesting and deeply developed and are now impossibly irritating, arrogant and plain hateful.
(Okay, it's rhetorical question. Hoping to companies losing money if they keep filming that stuff. =)))
Back to the Witcher: I can't get rid of the feeling I've seen not the same Witcher than you two. =)) Mine had unclear timelines, heroes flip!-teleporting around the map, things not explained in any coherent way ([Ciri] what this crystal ball is for? It's supposed to teach me magic but nobody told me how. - [Geralt] Yen is gonna handle that. - [Ciri] Yen? - [Yen] Go figure it out for yourself, YOU CAN DO IT. - [Ciri: does it]), the doppelhanger saying he copies a person together with all memory but Ciri catching him by a piece of info the "real" person would know, witcher medallions not sensing monster presence in Eskel - throughout the series stuff like this goes on and on and on. It had good moments, where the story wasn't deviating much from the books. Cavill is a convincing Geralt, Tissaia is great, Triss is okay-ish after they dyed her red (not only as a reference to the game, but because the woman looks 10 years younger that way )) Both Jaskier's songs are nice. Also I'll mention the "forced diversity" part which removes Eastern European vibe of the book and gets "modern US" stamped all over the video. Well, it's NOT like they were filming it NOT for their own audience. ;) And if it were the only deviation from Sapkowsky's spirit of The Witcher, I'd be fine with it.
Yeah, but this is the thing, despite some of these lesser (and executed less-in-your-face) flaws it did manage to capture our interest, portray interesting character dynamics, sometimes thrill us and suspend our disbelief for some of these things. Also, for most of these things it has good excuses, so anything to do with travel that involves a magic user will always get a free pass plus they're never obliviously in your face that characters travel from location A to B like in a day, like RoP does all the time. Also, for monster stuff and everything to do with Witchers "not looking like they have experience and badassery they should have" - I think people aren't careful enough here, this show explicitly stated the monsters we see in critical parts of the show are different than the ones they're accustomed to, so that means maybe they magic charms can't detect those or some of their Witcher tactics they thought would work don't work so they fail to be as effective as they should. It's details like that, which gives plausibility to these things, that matter sometimes and make hell of a difference, at least to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySelene
Which is still not overdone and they still kept some Eastern European vibes. Racial diversity isn't really as widespread, there are certain areas and lands hinted at that are actually full-on black ethnicity and the greatest racial diversity would be amongst the elves, scattered slaves and refugees fighting for survival, which makes sense given historical context... at least so farQuote:
Originally Posted by LadySelene
Granted, my biggest worry is we either give them credit for something that was just coincidental to begin with and they're gonna reveal their true approach yet, OR, even it wasn't just coincidental, the woke powers gonna come and ruin it in full force anyway and whoever was responsible for keeping it mostly well-balanced won't be able to do it no more. This is something that looms above every single famous show these days, threatening to throw all sort of appeal and coherence out the window at any given moment... including cartoons and that's so frustrating. Also, the more I'm reading about upcoming stuff... I have my doubts about S3 and hope to be proven wrong. For example, S3 confirmed *something* big for Ciri as far as either lesbian or bi goes, which is all fine, except... from what I know of canon... her "iconic" lesbian encounter involves another woman forcing herself on her after saving her from male rapists, so essentially saves her from r thing and then gently rapes her herself (with canon Ciri being still a child, nonetheless.. Sapkowski had some weird Ciri thoughts, I'm telling you). So it's not exactly a "romantic representation material" and this entire plot point wasn't anything plot relevant anyway, but if they try to subvert that for woke and lgbt points, well, I'm seeing huge red flags (and I very much doubt they have the guts to show r thing by a woman on another not-exactly-thrilled woman followed by a sort of sexual relationship and the guts to adequately portray it as somehow complex and toxic rather than ideal and celebrated... so they would be just better off to skip it entirely).
Compared to what? The problem is that whenever they do this, you lose the sense of time and place. Everywhere looks the same, sorta diverse, Go from one city to another, even one show to another. Then compare it to something like GoT which by and large didn't do this and the difference is readily apparent: evoking some other place and time is always going to beat evoking modernity and an American idea of what diversity should look like.Quote:
Originally Posted by TesalionLortus
Far-off, semi-legendary, the stuff of the sort of travellers' tales that grow in the telling. And the key thing there is they stay that way because you wouldn't just bump into people from those places while walking down the street in a city in the Northern Realms.Quote:
there are certain areas and lands hinted at that are actually full-on black ethnicity
I just finished the last episode. To be honest, I really didn't care for it, the reason being was me wondering why the Hell does every finale have to blind and make you deaf with flashing lights and loud thunder and explosions from a big fight? That started with JJA's Star Trek movies and the the Indiana Jones Crystal Skull, and it's been like that ever since. I hate it.
I looked up the plans for Season 3, and it looks like they are making a push for wokeness, the people in charge of making the series used the "representation" word. UGH. It's a shame, I thought the show had a good balance.
All in all, I loved Season 1, loved the first 7 episodes of Season 2, but did not like the finale. The only part of episode 8 that I liked was the end when the king had his 2 head lackeys arrested, that was a plot twist lol.
Word is Henry Cavill is leaving the show after S3, S4 will have Liam Hemsworth as Geralt. Oops :(
It's official now :( https://twitter.com/witchernetflixQuote:
Originally Posted by Radhruin_EU
Perhaps meanwhile could take a look at House of the Dragon, if you haven't already :) It didn't grab my attention much at the start to be honest, but it got better and better as progressed, would recommend it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidmeetHal