Freep healer RK VS Mini

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

If I am already highly self nerfing in skill use why would I bother to abuse movement(I could have but like I said, highly self nerfing) vs this failure? I mean if you need to abuse movement to win fights then that's not my problem but don't cry when not everybody has to.

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It seems you do need to 'abuse' movement to win fights, since you not 'abusing' movement has left us with you not winning them here.

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Or maybe you fail at telling the difference between complaining and stating facts(like almost all of lotro failures do), it seems to me at least that every time I have seen someone(namely constrictionz on another thread) tell you that you are wrong(in any way whatsoever) you say they are complaining and yet provide no solid evidence to back that point of view up other than some semblance of a rambling and you telling them that you are correct and they are wrong. Maybe one day you will learn to play this game and be able to provide solid logical evidence to backup your point of views, until then Id suggest staying away from people like me and constrictionz on the forums as we will only provide you with sorrow(or if you are a casual, false entertainment).

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kindly point out this other thread where all of this happened?

I wouldn't worry about my sorrow, so far you've been a great pick-me-up, and I haven't had cause for complaint in any of my interactions with Constrictions over the years. Its rather intriguing that you're lumping yourself together with him though.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

It seems you do need to 'abuse' movement to win fights, since you not 'abusing' movement has left us with you not winning them here.

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Not because I didnt exploit movement, I lost the fights because of the reasons listed previously, cappy buffs, light bleeds and cds, heal essences to name a few but I guess it might take several pages for you to realise this if you havent already(falling into the category of Giliodor and Equinoxx).

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Originally Posted by spelunker

kindly point out this other thread where all of this happened?

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The one I was referring to is https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...essence-nerfed but Im sure there are more.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

I wouldn't worry about my sorrow, so far you've been a great pick-me-up, and I haven't had cause for complaint in any of my interactions with Constrictions over the years. Its rather intriguing that you're lumping yourself together with him though.

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What I meant was that every time you try to sound credible with something that isn't, you seem to get caught by either constrictionz or I which is unfortunate and will continue to be until you learn to provide factual logical evidence with your claims.

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Not because I didnt exploit movement, I lost the fights because of the reasons listed previously, cappy buffs, light bleeds and cds, heal essences to name a few but I guess it might take several pages for you to realise this if you havent already(falling into the category of Giliodor and Equinoxx).

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That's funny, because I was going to say how awful this warden is and how you were clearly the better player in that spar...
But oh well, what do I know hmmm?

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Originally Posted by Giliodor

That's funny, because I was going to say how awful this warden is and how you were clearly the better player in that spar...
But oh well, what do I know hmmm?

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You do have a history of being generaly stupid... maybe you are coming around slowly after all.

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Not because I didnt exploit movement, I lost the fights because of the reasons listed previously, cappy buffs, light bleeds and cds, heal essences to name a few but I guess it might take several pages for you to realise this if you havent already(falling into the category of Giliodor and Equinoxx).

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sounds like more QQ, since the cappy buffs and heal essences weren't present in 2/3 fights, none of which you won.

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The one I was referring to is https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...essence-nerfed but Im sure there are more.

What I meant was that every time you try to sound credible with something that isn't, you seem to get caught by either constrictionz or I which is unfortunate and will continue to be until you learn to provide factual logical evidence with your claims.

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posting that link under the pretenses you have and claiming someone else is lacking credibility is rather amusing, by all means continue. Cliff notes for you since actually understanding what you attempted to read is apparently too much for you: I posted some thoughts on why the current system for the warden class healing essence is a terrible one, along with explaining LOTRO's sad history of proc item effects, and a few alternative ways to make the essences good for tanking without being a game-breaker as they are now (and also interestingly, a major point of QQ for you right now). Constrictions has a different opinion on how the essences can be changed to not 'break' the game (and make you QQ more), but in no way refuted anything I said (the closest I can even come to where you think that is the part where I was talking about mob attacks per second and he used creep attacks per second, but even then, the end conclusions we draw really aren't that different). Hope this helps with the reading comprehension. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

sounds like more QQ, since the cappy buffs and heal essences weren't present in 2/3 fights, none of which you won.

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Watch the video again and again and again because clearly however many times you have watched it now, you have not picked up on any what is happening in those fights, cappy buffs(of some description) are only not present in the second fight(which incidently is the fight where I had to pull him out of the aura) which I lost due to RNG(not qq, merely a statement, figured I had to clear that up as you lack the ability to differentiate) and light dots/removal. I look forward to your next failed attempt at defaming me.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

Constrictions has a different opinion on how the essences can be changed to not 'break' the game (and make you QQ more), but in no way refuted anything I said (the closest I can even come to where you think that is the part where I was talking about mob attacks per second and he used creep attacks per second, but even then, the end conclusions we draw really aren't that different).

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Really? Cause his first post to you begins with the word "false" and continues on to tell you why, now I don't have a degree in English but I was under the impression that when someone says "false" that they openly disagree with the statement, that's just me though.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

Let me know if I can be of further assistance.

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You can, keep replying to me, you make me laugh, I wont reply to you until tomorrow late in the day as I have rl stuff to do and its 4 am here for me but never fear, I will reply.

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Really? Cause his first post to you begins with the word "false" and continues on to tell you why, now I don't have a degree in English but I was under the impression that when someone says "false" that they openly disagree with the statement, that's just me though.

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I suggest you reread the thread, friend.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

The best player lotro has ever seen beaten by someone who must have to keep spare S keys in their desk because they're ramming the backpedal button so hard... Ouch.

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Originally Posted by Spilo

your point.

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His point is: see pink words. I think a lot of us who saw this vid share the same opinion about this warden: trash 10/10. I mean, there's even genuine surprise when a self nerfing reaver stops the fight after the warden's essences heal him almost back to full...lel. What we don't get, and what Thaelon fails to mention in his xth "Best Player Ever" rant, is how A GOD is being beaten by this backpedalling, skillclickering, keyturning monstrosity. I mean that warden can't even turn, he just backpedals in your general direction. There's some very easy tricks to outmanoever this type of player, and even if you're unaware of these (like Thaelon) you could always pull LoS behind that guy's UI set up.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nisyx3VHiS4

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That UI. Those unnecessary buffs being shown for the whole group. Them bags being opened.

It's a wonder they can even see what's on their screen!

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Originally Posted by Familiarity

That UI. Those unnecessary buffs being shown for the whole group. Them bags being opened.

It's a wonder they can even see what's on their screen!

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http://i57.tinypic.com/33ojkte.jpg

I want to bet his highest damage source was Tenacious Warden bleed... /lol these failures who play wardens and get away with it...

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Originally Posted by Giliodor

I want to bet his highest damage source was Tenacious Warden bleed... /lol these failures who play wardens and get away with it...

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I haven't been playing enough to know at 100, but at 95 there were only ~2 wardens on BW who weren't getting the BB jewelry set as their highest single damage source (unless they used recklessness, ofc).

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Originally Posted by YOLOSWAG420

http://i57.tinypic.com/33ojkte.jpg

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http://i.imgur.com/cbGQGHz.jpg?4

Sup?

lul I edited this to show cordh she was stupid, don't know or care what was here...

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Let me clear that up for you, the GOD is beating beaten by exploiting essences, cappy buffs, rng, first aid, cds and self nerfing(on the GODs part). I hope that cleared it up for you.

Like I tried to explain to Desoloates, I was self nerfing highly in those fights, why would I abuse movement against a failure? If he can beat me using all his cds, exploits, buffs and still needs rng when I severely self nerf then I think he can have the win, it just isn't the type of win you want to have(especially when the fights are so close...). If you are one of these people who need to abuse movement vs people like this who cant move than fine, abuse it all you want but don't expect everybody to be as bad as you and need to do it.

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"Abuse movement," lol...........

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Originally Posted by 007Squanto

"Abuse movement," lol...........

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How exactly would you classify it(you might have improved on it since I was on bw last but your movement was very similar to this guys so dont act like an expert in the movement field..)?

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

How exactly would you classify it(you might have improved on it since I was on bw last but your movement was very similar to this guys so dont act like an expert in the movement field..)?

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Lol



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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Let me clear that up for you, the GOD is beating beaten by exploiting essences, cappy buffs, rng, first aid, cds and self nerfing(on the GODs part). I hope that cleared it up for you.

Like I tried to explain to Desoloates, I was self nerfing highly in those fights, why would I abuse movement against a failure? If he can beat me using all his cds, exploits, buffs and still needs rng when I severely self nerf then I think he can have the win, it just isn't the type of win you want to have(especially when the fights are so close...). If you are one of these people who need to abuse movement vs people like this who cant move than fine, abuse it all you want but don't expect everybody to be as bad as you and need to do it.

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I just hope you're typing on a tiny keyboard and the above isn't cause by rage making your fingers shake.

I thought we'd been over the No QQ about losing part.

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Originally Posted by spelunker

I just hope you're typing on a tiny keyboard and the above isn't cause by rage making your fingers shake.

I thought we'd been over the No QQ about losing part.

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Meh, illiterates will be illiterates...

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Meh, illiterates will be illiterates...

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So you didn't read that other thread?

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Originally Posted by spelunker

So you didn't read that other thread?

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I read it before I posted here and I reread it afterwards and still came to the same conclusion. If you cant understand that "false" means he disagrees with you then I don't know what I can say to you to teach you English but I suggest taking some classes...

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Like I tried to explain to Desoloates, I was self nerfing highly in those fights, why would I abuse movement against a failure? If he can beat me using all his cds, exploits, buffs and still needs rng when I severely self nerf then I think he can have the win, it just isn't the type of win you want to have(especially when the fights are so close...).

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This is not an explanation, this is an excuse.

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Originally Posted by Cordh

This is not an explanation, this is an excuse.

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Ok, lets look at what "fact" means:

Fact, something known to exist or to have happened
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact

So now lets look at what I posted:

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Like I tried to explain to Desoloates, I was self nerfing highly in those fights, why would I abuse movement against a failure? If he can beat me using all his cds, exploits, buffs and still needs rng when I severely self nerf then I think he can have the win, it just isn't the type of win you want to have(especially when the fights are so close...).

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I(and Im sure many others can too) see that everything that is here is fact, so by coming to that conclusion I can also come to the conclusion that the person who said this was "stating facts" when they stated this. Maybe one day you will understand English and be able to comprehend and differentiate between fact and fiction, maybe one day...

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

I(and Im sure many others can too) see that everything that is here is fact, so by coming to that conclusion I can also come to the conclusion that the person who said this was "stating facts" when they stated this. Maybe one day you will understand English and be able to comprehend and differentiate between fact and fiction, maybe one day...

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Cordh sucks at English. Freaking foreigner. I swear.

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Originally Posted by Thaelon

Ok, lets look at what "fact" means:

Fact, something known to exist or to have happened
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fact

So now lets look at what I posted:


I(and Im sure many others can too) see that everything that is here is fact, so by coming to that conclusion I can also come to the conclusion that the person who said this was "stating facts" when they stated this. Maybe one day you will understand English and be able to comprehend and differentiate between fact and fiction, maybe one day...

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I love how irony is so lost on you.