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Re: Names in Middle-Earth, Quick Guide
Beyond that Ramziah is a common name at East Europe-Middle-East, since they are not elves, not hard to guess that one ;)
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Well, now I can see from Berephon's above post that he made while I was writing how badly I failed. I didn't even notice the surnames. I didn't know Beltamath. But on "Faenthand," isn't the word for spirit "faer," not "faen?" Can "r" mutate to "n" in some cases? Or am I just wrong? ;)
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Berephon
Baratan (bara + tan) = Fiery Smith (should be Baradan), Faenthand (faen + thand) = Spirit-shield
Gaearonhir (gaearon + hîr) = Sea-lord (pretty sure this was the one I recommended), Beltamath (Bell + tamma- + -ath mediat suffix) should be Beltammath = Strong Knocker (stretching because I couldn't thnk of anything else that fit here.)
And the latter three are your own. ;) The Z was the key.
Well let's see, for the first one. It was originally going to be Baradan for "Fiery man" but that name is taken on all servers because it's in the Gondorian name suggestion box at character gen. The name you recommended to me because of that was in fact "Baratan" to be "Fiery maker". The surname was also correct. Though I thought Faen was more a word for "White light" then "spirit" but it's close enough. :)
Gaearonhir is one I came up with on my own, when I had to rename my Captain in order to re-use his name for my guardian. I'm glad I was able to make this name mostly correct. The surname however was supposed to be a combination of Belt "Strong" and Lammath "Voice" but apparently I screwed that up some how.
The other do all contain the letter Z and are all original names, righto :)
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My main's Name is Aaldayar Kirikyar. I know that Aaldayar probably has little to no meaning, as it is just the name I have chosen for my main in all the fantasy mmo's I've played. However, I did go through the trouble of finding what I believe to be the translation of Reaper of Blood, or Blood-Scythe with my surname Kirikyar. Could you tell me if this is correct? Out of curiosity, does Aaldayar mean anything either? Could it?
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DuncanBriggs
My Main's Name is Aaldayar Kirikyar. I know that Aaldayar probably has little to no meaning, as it is just the name I have chosen for my mine in all fantasy mmo's I've played. However, I did go through the trouble of finding what I believe to be the translation of Reaper of Blood, or Blood-Scythe with my surname Kirikyar. Could you tell me if this is correct?
Blood-reaper is "Seregcritha" the surname you have, I can find absolutely nothing similar to even compare it to. There are no words with Kir in them or yar.
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http://www.dragons-inn.org/Ifreann/T...l/elf_eng.html
http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/index/indexw.htm (Yaar as blood, kirka/kirik as reaper)
My source of info, may have mix-matched languages tho, what would be the predominant elven language in lothlorien as of our time period? Sindarin?
That guide lists Yar as blood, and Kirik as Reaper in Sindarin :)
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Berephon
Faithful Friend would be Estelvellon, Estelveldir (-veldis for f.), or Estelheron. Sedryn is plural Faithful Ones. Estel is Faith, so the closest you would get is Friend of Faith.
I thought Estel was literally 'hope'. Or is it not a coincidence that hope = faith in Sindarin?
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DuncanBriggs
While I won't pretend to know that "guide's" source, my source happens ot be the back of one of the actual books written by Tolkien. :o
Also many of those words have the letter Z in them, no elvish words use that letter.
This is a very accurate guide, and is the one I tend to use when I don't have my books on-hand or a word is missing form them: http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sinda...ict-sd-en.html
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If you look at the four letter abbreviations, one of them is etym, that refers to tolkien's etymologies. Still waiting on Berephon to clear this up for me :P
BTW, just noticed your guide lists iar with the ^ above tha a as blood in the etymologies.
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Anyone figure out what is written on the back of the new Ranger Cloak reward.
It looks like:
Sidhebdir
Is it Man of Peace?
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Cubrethil
Anyone figure out what is written on the back of the new Ranger Cloak reward.
It looks like:
Sidhebdir
Is it Man of Peace?
It's Peace Keeper or Keeper of the Peace. But the Tengwar on that cloak were backwards...
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lastalliance
It's Peace Keeper or Keeper of the Peace. But the Tengwar on that cloak were backwards...
Thanks.
Why do you say they are backwards? They did not look so to me.
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Berephon
Barandil would be Golden-brown Stuffing or Golden-brown Spike or Tine. :)
So I was way off on most of them. :(
Do you know of any resources out there to help us learn to use Sindarin? I find the rules quite complex, especially if they're not explicitly stated.
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lastalliance
Well, now I can see from Berephon's above post that he made while I was writing how badly I failed. I didn't even notice the surnames. I didn't know Beltamath. But on "Faenthand," isn't the word for spirit "faer," not "faen?" Can "r" mutate to "n" in some cases? Or am I just wrong? ;)
Oh, you're right on faer/faen!
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Serin36
I thought Estel was literally 'hope'. Or is it not a coincidence that hope = faith in Sindarin?
When I get to work Tuesday, I'll give you the breakdown on the three words for hope (they each have slightly different meanings.)
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DuncanBriggs
If you look at the four letter abbreviations, one of them is etym, that refers to tolkien's etymologies. Still waiting on Berephon to clear this up for me :P
BTW, just noticed your guide lists iar with the ^ above tha a as blood in the etymologies.
Yeah, those sites are not accurate at all. I'll check my sources Tuesday.
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AmAvocet
So I was way off on most of them. :(
Do you know of any resources out there to help us learn to use Sindarin? I find the rules quite complex, especially if they're not explicitly stated.
If you want to put out $50, David Salo's A Gateway to Sindarin is probably one of the best sources you can get (contrary to some educator's sites that disparage it, our research has definitely shown it to be much more accurate than any other source we researched, both hard-copy and web.)
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Of course you could just buy the book where a lot of this information comes from:
The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-Earth (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Languages-Tolk.../dp/0395291305
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Berephon
If you want to put out $50, David Salo's A Gateway to Sindarin is probably one of the best sources you can get (contrary to some educator's sites that disparage it, our research has definitely shown it to be much more accurate than any other source we researched, both hard-copy and web.)
Thanks, Bere! I got one on ebay for $35 (which seems to be the list price).
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Cubrethil
Thanks.
Why do you say they are backwards? They did not look so to me.
They didn't look backwards to me this weekend either, but they were earlier. I suppose the cloak must have received a quick fix.
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I have this one. It didn't help me to learn how to form compound words in Sindarin.
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I'm already thinking ahead to sword and staff names for my legandary weapons (and hopefully my shield).
So, what is sword, staff and shield?
Staff of Light
A Light in the Dark (staff or shield)
Thunder Bringer (staff)
Shield of Honor
Thorog's Revenge (sword)
Augmenter of Pain (sword or shield)
Light Saber :)
Sword of Hope
Shadow Sword or Staff
Niewen's Flame (staff)
Flaming Shield
Sword of Virtues
Divine Strength
King's Gift
thanks... naming a legendary weapon is an important task! *salute*
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Anguloke123
That one is notoriously inaccurate.
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Berephon
When I get to work Tuesday, I'll give you the breakdown on the three words for hope (they each have slightly different meanings.)
Amdir = Hope based on reason
Estel = Hope based on faith (it is also the word for faith)
Harthad = Hope in general
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Akaara
thanks... naming a legendary weapon is an important task
QFT
im already pulling my hair over what im gonna name mine
okay, you may carry on with this thread as normal