Probably...look what happened to Numenor!
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I still have my horseshoe, I wore it the entire leveling run from 65 - 75 and didn't find a single thing in RoI (I haven't done the raid stuff yet) that seemed affected by it. Not even a steel lootbox drop, nothing. I still do think it does affect some loot drops but just not sure where.
I posted this a while back but I think most people missed it. In regards to the Horseshoe I can confirm at least one of the effects of wearing it in the Winter Festival. If you wear it while playing the snowball fight game, every time you are hit by a snowball you actually have a chance to receive a supercharged buff, rather than the tiered debuff.
There was an npc in the treasure hunt event , he told somethin about how lucky it would be if we got that shoe... or somethin like it...
This thread and some of the comments on the donations page got me thinking...
It used to be that, if you entered the moors during chicken session play and managed to reach the Steps of Grams you were awarded the title "Fool". Is this title still available?
Because if it is, I will donate $50 to have Sapience play chicken session play in the Gladden moors, just so we can say we made a Fool out of him...
Not available and likely never will be again. It was only available for a couple of hours one April Fool's day a few years back. It was meant as a gag and ended up dragging the servers to their knees. With the host of issues that rapidly came up when hordes of chickens, creeps trying to feed on chickens, and freeps trying to protect chickens all slammed the moors at once- and pretty much killing the servers- they had to turn it off. It's been off ever since and will likely never return.
So those few that have that title will be the only ones to ever get that title.
Don't get your panties in a bunch over it. I'm sure whatever it does is not that important. It might give a 0.1% speed buff. More than likely, there will be something in the epic where an NPC makes a comment or something that you wouldn't see otherwise. This is not the first time this has happened. If I remember correctly, when you gathered the Gray Company as part of the epic, you got to tell Halros to stay or go, which made a difference later in the epic. Not a big difference, just a bit part.
This was the first thing that came to mind for me also. Someone else mentioned a possible buff during the snowball fight. I guess I'll have to check both out at the next winter festival.
So, the horseshoe does do something. For those of you who choose one of the other rewards in the epic quest, or who deleted it to make more room in your inventory or in your bank, it will now be available from the store for only 8,749 Turbine Points.
Most people don't know it (yet), but Ma Sandson's Prized Pie is the single most valuable item in the game. When you get to Mordor, all you'll need to do is offer the pie to Sauron, and you'll win the game!
For those players without the foresight to keep the pie in their inventory, it will be available in the Store for $300, thus giving new meaning to the term "Pay2Win."
Exactly what he said, the servers pretty much crashed after the event was up for 3 hours. So they had to turn the event off and do a reboot, iirc. I have it on my burglar and he likes having his unique title.
Per the thread, now I am sad I don't have it anymore on my main as it didn't seem worthwhile at the time.
The trick is to equip Erebrandir's Horseshoe while wearing your Bounders Sherrif's Cap!
Fortunate for me then that I still have both. Not only that, but I occasionally wore the hat till level 65. Only after being defeated mind for the hope bonus, to save me from having to keep crafting hope tokens.
... I am annoyed though that I stupidly deleted the pie in my early days with the game...
I know one thing that it DOES do, for sure, that is associated with the epic Book that you got it in. I and others have verified this through experimentation (it helps to have a ton of alts and characters to run through things ;) ). It has to do with the ability to see certain things... and that's about all I am going to say about it :)
Will have to try it out in the Treasure Hunt the next time it is up... and yes, I have it on all of my toons that have done that Book. General Rule of Thumb: when given a choice between rewards you can get elsewhere and a reward you can ONLY get in at 1 time, in 1 place, take the unique reward.
So people have enough time to sell off/delete their horseshoe and then have to rebuy it in the store, since you can't get it back any other way. Probably only 2k Turbine points to rebuy it, maybe?
Pics or video or forget about it, seriously. There's been enough talk like this from Turbine, we don't need more of it from fellow players.
Apparently the horseshoe causes me to crash?
No, really. I've been having some decently good luck since Rohan launched. I got the Spotted Warsteed out of my first spoils box, got a battered ring out of the first Sutcrofts box I opened, and a second today, not to mention a number of Tarnished crests. All this without the horseshoe.
And then, while at my vault, I thought to grab the horseshoe and put it on, figuring I'd wear it while finishing the III.9 epic. Have not been able to get back in since - each time, I manage to get into the world, only to immediately lose connection with the server.
Probably just a coincidence, but a spooky one! :p
Conversely, you could be the jerk for passing on it at the time. Two sides to everything, really. Just because it didn't tell you what it does, doesn't mean it does nothing.
As for all the folks who want specifics on what it does... a little mystery is good for you. If it's a problem, throw it away or don't take it in the first place.
Maybe next time we'll get a full 'workings of the horseshoe' in keeping with
http://kalamarikastle.com/?p=4947
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Q: What does the Horseshoe do?
A: No Comment BUT we will let the community know at some point!
Awhile back I was deconstructing LI's and relic forging and noticed an increase in the amount of multi- relics I was getting as well as shards. It was enough of a difference to catch my eye and upon inspection, I had the horseshoe equipped. Since that time, everytime it is time to decon and forge... I equip it.
Probably just superstition but I did play baseball a few years back.. Ok... Quite a few years back. Anyway, I have told a few friends about this and they have also said there is an increase in shards and multiple relics upon forging and deconning...
I also ran Draigoch with a guy who insisted everyone equip their horseshoe when we rolled... He won that nights run because no one had there's except him... Silly LOTRO. Just tell us and be done with it. Or be the politicians that you are and continue to say "almost" something... :)
Shok
The thread title reminds me of Edwin Star. "Absolutely Nothing!". :D
for giggles I always wear mine while deconstructing legendaries or while opening warband loot boxes or other rewards. what the hey, may as well.
I was just thinking about this and so far, I have only found one new quest for the Yuletide quests at Frostbluff and that is the daily quest. I saw other forum posts about a Tarnished Symbol dropping from the Bag of Presents, but it's Bound to Account. So I suggest that those who have it should equip the Horseshoe before turning in the quest and see what loot they acquire.
For what its worth, while wearing horseshoe and obtaining bag of presents, I got one
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Item:...ary_Experience
Better than tokens I suppose lol.
I've worn the horseshoe on one character that owns it (out of eight toons) throughout the yule festival and it does not appear to make any difference at all. Whatever benefit it supposedly gives appears to be useless, otherwise it would at least be noticeable over a three week period.. right?Quote:
In fact, the winter festival would be a good time to dust it off!
Agreed. I wore the horseshoe too for the duration of the entire festival and did the events every day. There didnt seem to be any significant increase in any amount of luck or other festival related activity. Also never received the long-horned snowbeast cloak or a tarnished symbol from the daily present, I got marks 95% of the time. Also opening a lvl 70 lootbox I found I received even more marks and 5 tomes of enhanced xp x.x
I guess they forgot to turn the horseshoe on lol. But really, what does it dooooo?? Tell us already :(
I also wore the horseshoe while opening the sack from the daily. Every day and besides marks and extra tokens, I only ever won the hat that you can just as easily get from the barterers. Now, it's no big deal, since I've all but given up hope on the horseshoe, but given the recent statements by devs, it /does/ make me wonder if it really does much at all.
A while back I almost swear that Sapience suggested we where it while questing and running through the epic in Rohan. Well did, for almost every quest and epic chapter, and I never noticed anything different in the quest dialogue or action that seemed to suggest the horseshoe was having an effect.
That said, might it be time for another hint at just what the horseshoe is intended to do?
sure do wonder if the horseshoe stil means something in rohan *just got there*
I suppose it would not hurt to give it a try :)
As already mentioned a while back, it has an effect during the snowball fight: You have a chance of getting a buff if hit by a snowball which gives immunity to more slows for 10 seconds. :)
I really hope it does nothing. I lost my horseshoe on my main to a hack attack about 2 years back. I put in a trouble ticket and they were only able to compensate me with coin, nothing of my inventory, which at the time represented hundreds of hours of game play. Far harder to replace lost inventory than coin. Coin, even back then, was easy to come by.
So when I asked about the Horseshoe, they couldn't (wouldn't ???) replace it or even allow me to re-run the particular quest to earn it again. And the reply I got from the ticketmeister made me believe that the silly thing was just a Dev joke, so after getting over the hacking, I didn't really care too much about the horseshoe.
But now the bile is rising in my gut again...
At this point there is so much hype about this thing that if it really is/was just a dev joke they can hardly admit it and if it truly does help in festivals and such, then I REALLY want a way to reclaim it on my main, *with* all the accumulated time benefits.
For anyone interested, I posted a screenshot of that buff a few weeks ago:
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...w-Fu-quot-Buff
Third post down. It's not some game-breaking effect, so if you didn't take the horseshoe I wouldn't worry too much about it
I had a brief exchange with Sapience on Twitter today, where he said the following:
I think "given up date" is just a typo for "given date". Anyway, there it is.Quote:
@tobascodagama You were told, for real, what it does. And you were told it changes.
@tobascodagama The thing with it is, as we said, that devs can add and change it. So it's possible in a given up date that it does more.
My interpretation of this is that the effect depends entirely on whether the dev for any given content has written something that interacts with the horseshoe. The "You Know Snow Fu" thing is one interaction that we've uncovered.
Now that we know (sort of) what to look for a little better, we can try to find other stuff. If anyone's running through the Rohan (maybe even Isengard?) Epic right now, I encourage them to equip the Horseshoe and pay very close attention to their buffs! When the next part of Volume III is out, those of us at level 85 with no alts will have another chance to look for horseshoe effects.
I can really sympathize with the lack of help you got in recovery of inventory. The same thing happened to me (not hacking) with my entire shared storage on my first server. But, having said that, I think the horseshoe effect, if any, is so neglible that it really doesn't matter. During the festival, for instance, I had two 85s get the yule present bag every day, one with the horseshoe equipped and one without. The one without got better gifts over the entire festival. A lower level without the horseshoe got the best drops. Yes, this is just anecdotal...
Actually, I read it as saying that a given GAME update may change (presumably, add something new to) the function/effect of the horseshoe.
I trashed the shoe on my first two of the 3 toons that have progressed far enough to get it. I kept it on my 85 Guardian but I have rarely equipped it save when crafting. Guess I'll hang onto it and try to equip it more often, though "Festival" (now over) and "Epic quest chain" (already completed) are the only definitive times we know of that the 'shoe currently will have an effect. It may have no effect whatsoever on loot chests and ./rolls, crafting, and warband spoil boxes. I actually suspect it doesn't.
*shrug* kinda' fun, not a big deal. The angst of some regarding this "dark secret" is amusing. Roll with it people. Have fun. :)
Cool, so what do I get for posting the correct answer? I'll settle for a Tarnished Symbol of Celebrimbor. Shoot, I'll even equip my horseshoe when I open the game mail, and maybe it will transmute into a Tarnished Symbol of the Elder King! :p
Just offering helpful suggestions :)
The real power of the Horshoe is making people communicate.
The Horshoe has brought more people to the forums and made them talk and read and write and become active around here than any other thing Turbine has ever given us.
Just kidding. ;D
What about the hobby horse? (the 5000 TP thread in Bullroarer forum)
My chars (ok, only 2 which own the horseshoe) always use it, when doing "critical" things.
Yesterday my level 72 loremaster opened mail from the lottery. Found lootbox and key. Opened the box and found a Worn Symbol of the Elder King. :)
My main didn't keep this horseshoe. Does anyone know if I can mirror pool join with someone doing that quest to get a replacement?
I'm currently taking my burg through RoI region (just started Andreg) and as an experiment (since this is my 4th through the area) I decided to equip the horseshoe and keep it equipped... I have a leveling partner (another burg) who equips the stone to give more xp so we sort of have a baseline.... I also run buffbars so keep a pretty close eye on everything that pops up. So far, I have not seen anything out of the ordinary - if I do, I'll be sure and let you all know.
I've heard that it can increase drop chance, but I think I've also read that it will be a legendary mount item in the next update with Eastern Rohan.
I have equipped it a couple of times when crafting and/or identifying a new LI.
I can't say for certain if it helped, but it always prevented unwanted results like wooden spoons or brooms.
From the Turbinatum Arcana ex Inferis:
The Horseshoe is an ancient artifact, developed in the dark fires of the 1970's binary code.
Its powers reside in helping the younger generations of players to be more inquisitive about games and their content.
Abusing its powers is as dangerous as ignoring them, as both will sink the wearer into an endless pit of despair and curiosity.
It is said that when the last MMO on the Internet launches its very last expansion, the full potential of the horseshoe will become known to mankind, thus heralding a new era of Internet MMO's launching, and pretty much absolutely nothing changing as compared to what was in the past.
(edit: Translated from the original Igpay Indarinsay version)
As a side note to all of this, I've been told on a few occasions in-game "you're and idiot for taking the horseshoe." I've seen pretty similar sentiments expressed on the forums, in this thread and elsewhere.
Oh, really?
News flash #1. Completely aside from what it actually does, I took it because it was the one reward available for that quest that never loses its value. Does nothing? Then it's value never changes. Does even some of what's been implied? Something unique in the entire game? Then it's priceless, so... it's value never changes. Should I have taken some other pocket item offered (I forget the specific other rewards for the quest)? Pfft, I'd have out-leveled the value of that in 10 levels or less. Relics for an LI? I out-level the LI in the same span. Armour? Jewelry? Please, tell me, is there *one damn thing* that would NOT be useless to me in a matter of just a few levels? I'll wait.
Never mind. I lied. I won't wait. I already know your answer. Nothing. If that's what the horseshoe itself is worth, then it's worth exactly one bag or vault slot, which is worth very close to nothing, in the grand scheme of things, no matter *what* some QQers want to think.
Oh, oh, wait... my *pocket* slot. Right. Surely *that's* terribly costly to waste on an item that "does nothing", yes?
News flash #2. I didn't design my character to live or die by the contents of one minor gear slot. I'm amused if *you* did, but that's really your cross to bear, not mine. I don't need to hear about it, any more than I need to hear your opinion on the relative value of a quest item I chose of my own free will. Your opinion, frankly, is worth *less* than nothing to me.
The other rewards from that quest are stat legacies, for what it's worth. IMO, stat legacies aren't worth using for most classes anyway, so I don't see why anyone wouldn't take the mysterious horseshoe that definitely does something (even if we haven't worked out the full list of what "something" is yet -- remember, the snowball fight effect is confirmed, so we know for certain now that it doesn't do nothing).
There's no empirical data that i have seen that expresses what the horseshoe does. Do i believe it does something? yes. Do i believe it affects the game for a toon that wears it permantely or periodically for loot rolls? No. If it does influence games probabilities, it is at such a small percentage the average user wouldnt even notice. There are also so many unknows if it is an active "buff" item, duration, Cool down just to name a few.
End result, it is what it is, and given the fact that most quest items have such a short applicable use in the game, its not a wrong choice. It is a personal beleif to it usefulness and not worth debate, or argumentaion. You don't have to convince me why u choose it, nor will i ever feel the need to defend my decision.
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Yeah, some people love to make fun of others who 'believe' in 'luck', rather than depend on evidence-based science.
These people seem to make up more than a small subset of those who play MMORPG's.
They're mostly an okay sort though, once you get to know them. They just love to tease. Give 'em their laugh.
And once Lady Fortune smiles upon you (and your horseshoe), let 'em have yours;)
That means you missed the screenshots of the last Yule festival.
People who used the horse shoe could get a short buff that prevented them from being interrupted by snowballs at the snowball fight.
I don't have any data about the chances for this buff (if it was given at every 2nd hit or whatever), but only people with the horse shoe could get it.
I know some ppl have made a decision about the horseshoe and cannot be swayed either way as to if it is a boon or just a piece of junk. All I can do is express my observations and experiences with it. Until such a time as the gm's and dev's decide to clearly state the specifics on the horseshoe.
1. I have noticed a far greater chance of getting Shards/flakes/Sigils/crest from resource node while having the horseshoe slotted. One day I received 24 sigils within a 10 hr gaming session while casualy tapping wood/ore nodes while leveling a toon in dunland. This by far is the greatest 1 day haul I have had on them just from resource tapping. And in no way am I stating that you will experience the same or greater, but others in my kin have expressed that they to have seen the rate of getting these ite,ms from nodes increase while wearing the horseshoe.
2. I also have noticed a marked increase in the amount of crit results while crafting, so much so that I wear it whenever I intend to craft on all my toons.
3. I tend to avoid the festivals , as I have never really enjoyed them, but other in my kin have stated they had better results in ones such as the treasure hunt while wearing the horseshoe, compared to alts they had that did not.
All in all I believe in the horseshoe and will until the dev's say otherwise. I encourage all player to at least get it on one alt and just test it out and see if you notice a difference.
Considering the choices of quest reward are the horseshoe or one of four legacies I would take the horseshoe every time. I swap to mine whenever I open a container (corpse, backpack etc), I didn't think of equipping it when breaking legendaries down though.
I like not knowing everything about every little item I pick up or what it is for. I sometimes loot "old arrowhead"s from beast mobs and have a growing collection, maybe they have some use besides vendor trash but probably not.
My point is not everything in the game has to have a reason or use.
I love my horse shoe, its a permanent fixture in my bags. I pop it on whenever I open loot boxes, wb rewards, relic combine or deconstruct etc. I see it as a slight increase in luck for the RNG , and perhaps I am imagining things but I do see an increase in crits because of it. either way its a win
Hmm, I equip my horseshoe, and two days later servers are still down, coincidence? :cool:
So far as I can tell this is anecdotal - it's easy to be beguiled by a good day that lets you forget the bad ones, as it also is easy to be annoyed by the 10 fails in a row from your 76% crafting tries while forgetting your string of five 25% crits in a row. I did extensive data collection on just this question for both Dunland and Riddermark sigils and crests, and found no difference between "with" and "without" over thousands of nodes. In each case I was seeing about sigil or crest per about 120 ore/wood before U6, none in 575 ore/wood for U6, one per 80 for U6.01, and one per per 160 for U6.1 and later, independent of horseshoe. If you have real data that shows an effect (positive or negative), I'd love to see it. I stopped collecting the data several updates ago, so (as Sapience implied) it could now be having an effect.
I think it *used* to have an effect before it went into the snowball fight: I collected a great deal of data on identifying legendaries when you could still get four legacies to start, and there appeared to be a strong correlation between wearing it and getting four legacies. However, when I published my data here the statisticians did their thing with it and noted that it didn't hit the 95% significance level... if it had stayed at the same rate for only twice as long it would have. Unfortunately the update came along that removed the possibility of a fourth (non-store) legacy, so my data collection ended.
I'm waiting till we get to Mordor then my horseshoe has a date with Mount Doom!!!*
*not sure if its been mentioned before ..didn't read through all the pages
I keep my horseshoe on permanently...
I'd rather do that for an increased chance of luck than have some sort of stat-boosting pocket item that I'd constantly have to switch it out with.
I can survive just fine at 85 vs. multiple mobs of equivalent level...
Maybe it increases the chance of getting a gold item!
I think it should be add to the lotro store :D
Guess this is the answer to the much hated RNG. Just equip the horseshoe and watch your epics drop!
When you have to go get an ox-hide for the quest “Curing the Leather” in Tâl Methedras, is there always a dead ox lying on the ground on the far side of the lake, that you can just click on to get the hide? If not, I may have just found another thing the horseshoe does. Not a big thing, as it just saves you having to kill one ox, but it would fit with the theme of luck. (“There just happened to be a dead ox already lying there just when I needed one!”)
OK, guess I just forgot about it (or missed it previously).
Maybe some of yall should try that Turtle quest you get off the notes in Bree while wearing the horseshoe. A nice little easter egg at the end of that quest line when its equipped
Which would be a super odd thing, since the Bree quest is available early in the game-play (qlvl 21) and the horseshoe is selectable reward from a quest at level 65. I find this to be highly unlikely - and if the easter egg is there, I'd /bug it for being impossible to get.
Let me explain, if it seemed like a strange comment from me:
Yes but...in the user experience, you don't have the horseshoe available. You have it only if your alt was 65+ and had the quest reward offered to him/her before Bree town makeover. I mean that I can run any quest after intro at cap but the quests don't assume that I run them wearing Fangorn stuff. If the reward or extra is available only with the horseshoe, then I get 'punished' for doing the quest when it was available, no? As opposed to getting rewarded when doing a quest on-level. It just seems wrong.
Not sure how to explain why it looks odd to reward wearing a lv65 thing while running a qlvl 21.
MoL is sneaky. That's why. :)
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...04#post7117704
Read that thread further and the easter egg is revealed.
I would not see myself being punished if I was not able to experience every easter egg hidden in the game :-)
Its afterall nothing that grand, for me, you shall be free to feel different and then blame the developer for his pure evilness :-/
It does not look odd to me by the way if high lvl ppl goes back to lowlvl areas to do quests they had passed earlier. Many reasons for doing so.
This particular quest I went back to do because it was added before I had leveled past and it had usable rewards.
Here's some hypothesis (based on limited observation) I can't test: When the horseshoe is equipped the mystery drink always buffs. (Sorry if it's old news/already tested etc.)
Now we have a new mystery. Erebrandir's Other Horseshoe - has anyone tried it to find out if it includes any of the same effects as Erebrandir's Horseshoe, or is it entirely different?
It is different. Once the last scrap of paper is acquired, we will find the secret location and open the Secret Chest. That chest will contain 2 more Horseshoes. When all 4 of them are equipped in the War Steed mount panel, they will remove all rubberbanding, hitching, and lag which will make the war steed control like a normal mount.
Did Indianapolis Colts leave a bag of promo merch in Middle Earth again? ;)
It's the same effects. While if you look at both horseshoes descriptions, they have slightly different wording (some 'other' people), the buff reads the same way. Even if you use buffbars, it treats the buff the same way as the other buff. (I have the old one ignored, and it carried over the ignore feature).
Now, I might be wrong. I suppose dread debuffs also apply the same yet have different values. Still, I really would expect the buff to say 'erebrandir's OTHER horseshoe' to make it more distinct.
The theory is that this is a way for people who didn't take, or got rid of, the original horsehoe to reacquire it. If someone wants to quickly test it, they can run that turtle soup instance with the horseshoe equipped and check to see if the Hobbit is there.