Same with me...i have the deed at 4/7 . i was rushing through the quests quite faat and didnt see that i got a warning that will lose the whistle but i dont care, i have other alts which i stay and read the quest logs!!!
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Same with me...i have the deed at 4/7 . i was rushing through the quests quite faat and didnt see that i got a warning that will lose the whistle but i dont care, i have other alts which i stay and read the quest logs!!!
Really? REALLY?! People were complaining that hidden things in the world were hidden? The amount of handholding that people need in this game is sometimes dumbfounding (Old Forest, quest-tracker, etc.). I do so enjoy it when people ask me where I got my Odiferous title! Also, if you aren't reading the quest content, then why are you playing this game, and why are you skipping part of what you paid 30-50 bucks for? Just to say that you got to 75 firstest and to kill the dragon? Take some time and at least pay respect to the work that was put into this game to create the world for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
*pant,pant*
(Note that this doesn't apply either to the people who weren't in beta or those who accidentally clicked Continue after reading the warning.)
Fascinating...I was trying to figure out why there were 7 objectives on this. Turns out someone tried turning off the deed, and added a blank objective instead of properly hiding the deed. The deed CAN'T be completed. I'm sending this to OCR for the Known Issues list. Crud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laivindur
Edit: There actually 4 discoverables, contrary to my original comment.
I have no idea what everyone's problem was.. I completed it just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
The annoying part is that once you get to the part of the quest where the warning is you are already unable to get the other quests even if you havent lost the whistle. The ranger just stops offering those quests and you have no other option than give him the whistle. Thus you need to finish all the quests before finding the scout camp.
I had this too and finally gave up on it. I still had the whistle, but apparently turned in the quest that the whistle says you need to have; a better warning when turning that one in would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunsman
That particular quest also has a warning attached.Quote:
Originally Posted by Namesse
Ah, heh, yeah, nevermind. Deed is completeable. The old deed is, in fact, turned off (that was the one I was looking at.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
At least in this quest chain there is a clear warning that "if you do not do this or that" etc. I was miffed when the players that didn't do the poor-peoples quest line for the Yule Fest got some extra rewards in the mail a month later, and no way in the world to ever get your hands on those if you chose a different quest line. Frustrating for me, but kudos to Turbine for implementing such a clever Easter egg.
Ever since I've been on the side of caution when choosing my options in Middle Earth. Keep it up devs, this is what makes questing interesting!
Will it be fixed? I am stuck at 4/7 and I wanna get my 5TP and 1 point of Honour....
I wonder if it's possible to use another person's Andreg to kick start the chain again?Quote:
Originally Posted by sicofman
Not tried, can't log in (Snowy still offline) & can't remember where the chain started from :confused:
Well I tried. Can't take qest again from Andreg. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by frisp
Some of us did read everything and specifically spent a long time trying to get those quests to come up, while he was still summoned, and they did not. So that is a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
Part of the issue stems from players completing the WRONG quest first. .. If you complete the one that lets him even give you the OPTION to send him away for good, you have to very carefully check MANUALLY for quest rings every few feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
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While I appreciate the mobile-quest giver, I had similar issues in Anumminas and I'm sure other people did as well. At least this time we had a list so we knew when we were done looking for quests.
Perhaps the 'NPC check for quests' areas need to be just a little larger, I know multiple people that had problems getting a couple of the quests, even when forcibly dismissing and re-summoning the mob to force the quest check (something which players shouldn't need to do.)
Why not just make quests like this a daily/repeatable so that way if someone missed the warning they aren't totally screwed and you don't get a whole thread of people complaining.
It's not good customer service to say "maybe next time you will read the quest". Just saying...
Yea absolutely :XQuote:
Originally Posted by darkalice
I fully agree with that. I have completed every single deed ingame apart from some Skirmish and some Ettenmoors deeds and this is totally ruining my Lotro-Life. I got only 3 Quests from him and as in the Deed it is written "Saeradan Amleg and Andreg try to find out..." So I thought the others maybe had some more quests later since my following npc dindt offer me more. Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkalice
I think the overall problem here, Bere, is that the deed is buggy at best.
I charged into the forest with the whistle, I was not in beta, and I had no idea that he gave quests based on area. I was paying attention, and when I finished what I thought was done, I checked my deed log.
I was missing one quest.
But, like others in this thread, all I could do was click continue.
So, I was hosed from the get go on that one.
There are numerous problems with this concept:
#1. You are tethering a virtue to a deed that CAN NOT be completed at ANY time. That's a big no no. All deeds should be able to be completed at any given time. Period. This is mainly concerning CORE deeds, not skirmish/pvp/festival. I'm talking the core deed log here.
And if they must be completed then and you mess up, you should be able to go back to fix it (i.e. scrying pool).
#2. You tethered a deed to a quest giver who has to be in a certain location to activate the quest. Really? How does this make sense? I'm in a forest butchering hound #14 and the dude isn't gonna light up and go: Oh! I need you to kill 10 of these, please.
#3. Arguably the most frustrating thing, because people keep beating others over the head with it. I DID read the quest! I DID take my time! And now, because I wasn't standing in quadrant A section C I am stuck with a deed that has a VIRTUE linked to it indefinately.
That. Doesn't. Work.
I've given you the easy fix, but I'll give you another fix: If you're gonna say, "Sorry, you're screwed."
Then at least have the Ranger give ALL of the quests at the start.
Or, and I think this is a much more practical fix to the issue: Have the stationary NPC give the quests so we can do them as we see fit, at any given time.
This is the 1st deed that has ever been like this. You say you questioned placing it in the game, well you should have. Sorry to say, I think this entire concept is stupid; and had I been in beta, I would have said so the moment I saw it.
As a guy who has ONE main character and prides himself on doing all game content, I cannot fathom not being able to complete this stupid deed.
So, again, please fix it.
Add me to the list of people who simply didn't get one of the quests to be bestowed. I didn't even know there was a deed (must have missed it as I completed a few slayers at that time), run around and completed every Quest that the NPC gave. Turns out somehow I missed one (probably didn't reach whatever small hotspot there was in my search for crebain), and now the Deed cannot be completed.
Please either cancel the Deed if it is not finished, or give us some option to finish it.
Conclusion: The system with a NPC following around giving Quests only in certain small hotspots sucks. Either give them one after another upon completion, or all at once.
To all those saying that all they could do is press continue.
In case you didn't know it, if you press the Escape key on your keyboard, it closes all your UI windows all at once.
Everyone in our kin has struggled to find all the quests during the "whistle" phase of Gravenwood. In the end, we all moved on without completing the deed. It was very frustrating. Even quests I knew existed were hard to trigger by players following on a few hours later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
It would be a real, real shame (and absolutely frustrating) if we couldn't go back to the original quest bestower and get the whistle again to try and find the remaining quest(s) to complete the deed.
With all due respect, I read every word of every sentence of the quests. I think the quests in ROI have been the most engaging and absorbing of all the expansions thus far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
But... the dialouge that ends the whistle-quests in the Gravenwood says you should complete any remaining objectives, or else they will be cancelled. I had completed all the quests I had, but I was not aware I had missed one quest --- with all the other deeds blinging off at that time, I didn't see the 7-quest deed (Tracking an Old Goat) until after I had sent Amlan on his way.
:(
Please dont regret it. I love that there's something telling me if I missed something. I'd just not like it if it was telling me I missed something and I couldnt go back and do it. The deed would be laughing at me the rest of my lotro gaming career.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
As others have said, once you reach the point where the warning kicks in, it's really hard (or even impossible) to complete the deed. I was at 6/7 (or better 5/7, as pressing "continue" at the warning completes one more) and tried for half an hour to find the missing quest without success before giving up and continuing.
Besides the warning only says current quests would be canceled, not that the missing quests will never come up anymore.
Up to now I only know of one deed that would stay in your log but never be completed, which was the mirkwood intro slayer deed.
Iirc that one was changed soon after release because there shouldn't be open deeds in the log that are no longer completable!
Please add the whistle or the quests to stationary Andreg or at least make it a hidden deed that only shows up after completion, might help to forget this failure.
Anyways, this was about the worst thing for me in RoI, so all in all a great addon so far!
I went into this deed knowing about the bug issues and the one-chance only deed opportunity but still wasn't able to get the quests to spawn. I tried for hours and put in a ticket, which got replied to with a copy and pasted "We are not allowed to give quest advice" response from the GM. Still can't complete the deed. Ridiculous.