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This is the first I can recall hearing of such a thing, I just double-checked, no hint in the 20Q on Big Battles from two months ago...aside from the obvious, what might the "Promotions advancement system" be, and how will it impact a character, both within Big Battles and without?Quote:
Originally Posted by jwbarry
I still don't understand the threat changes, and I'd like more tangible information than just 'simplifying', especially as it applies to dps classes. In fact, a change like this probably merits a developer diary of its own, but in the absence of that, how about some details here?
And:
^^This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredelas
@Easca-
It looks like there will only be one option for Helms deep. The full expansion. Just like DDO's current expansion CONTENT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapience
@ Crell_1
Thanks, but I'd already gotten as far as that by reading through the questions. ;)
What I wanted to know was if it really has to be in such a way that we can't i.e. buy the Big Battles separately? And if the Big Battle is the only main feature of Helm's Deep (unlike RoR which had several raids in addition to the mounted combat)?
Subsequent edit: Wow, that is the best winking emoticon so far to really convey what I imagine myself doing when winking. ;)
I had to laugh at this. Let's train 'em young to use the Turbine Store, heh.Quote:
Q31: Cheery: Will there be expanded use of Mithril Coins?
A31: Amlug: Mithril coins will be expanded to include: new Housing Storage slots, trait tree configurations, and new barter vendors in the newbie areas.
But the barter vendors does sound like a cool idea!
Probably cause my English suck, but I have no idea what is this mean.Quote:
Threat
Q15: Mirnir: What was the rationale behind the changes to the threat system / in what ways will it improve the game?
A15: HoarseDev: Our threat system as it exists on live pre u12 is largely invisible to players and if you saw under the hood you would likely not be pleased. Rather than expose it, and seeing as we were making fundamental changes to how character builds function, we decided to simplify it. Choosing a tank specialization will give you a tangible amount of threat. We will still have forced taunts, but whether or not something multiplies your damage (which differs from character to character) times a strange number modified by another strange number will be irrelevant.
I may have missed it, or it may have been in a pevious 20Q, but how are these class changes going to affect PvMP ? Are there any plans to change the creep classes so that they don't get slaughtered even stepping foot out of Grams ?
So, will the level 85 barter content be adjusted to use Marks and Medallions before you take away my time and hard work to gather the seals I need for gear? Because I'd be really pissed off if the update came out, and I noticed all my seals were gone and my level 84 alt didn't get his first age weapon at 85 even though I've been working for weeks to get it.Quote:
Q:36 Grimdi: Will there be a seals reset at HD launch?
A36:jwbarry: Yes. We’ll also be evaluating the sources of seals and the quantities and frequencies with which they’re delivered through those means.
They are simplifying the threat system because it's extremely hard to handle at the moment... That's pretty much all I got from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiritier
Thank you Turbine, for the 20Q's, and the choice to make things simpler! Let's hope it leads to less work load, and more content! Woo!!
Glorgnorbor
They might be keeping the other 3 a secret!!! Gah, Turbine! So stealthy!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vandervahn
Should rename to:
Turbine:
"Powered by our stealth"
Glorgnorbor
The only question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxiana
What secrets will these barterers hold for us?
Glorgnorbor
I. A response regarding seals.
Try to get your final seals/the symbol before the update if you want to blow them away on a FA for some strange reason. What is likely to happen, as has happened repeatedly in the past, is no, seals turn into medallions, and you can't get the symbols. This doesn't get fixed in the patch a week or two after the expansion, but a month or so after at the first update. But just note, why would you want a first age item on a level 85 that will soon be replacing it with a third age at 90? Then they'll get a third age at 95 and subsequently a second age at 95.
II. On threat.
The answer meant a lot to me. Previously the system had a base value of threat and perceived threat. That would be one of the "times a strange number" things answered I believe. It was really simple, using a skill generated an amount of threat times the perceived threat factor. MOBs attacked whomever was highest on their table of perceived threat values. It's also how the dynamic of tank swapping bosses worked. One tank generates threat above DPSers/healers, other tank copied that threat value (via Engage for guards), switch out of the +perceived threat stance, other tank turns on their perceived threat multiplying stance, voilà, boss now attacks them. Easy.
It sounds like they are doing away with perceived threat, "times a strange number will be irrelevant", and say being in a "tank" spec will grant threat. So guards might become nothing more than reactive champions, a DPS playstyle instead of managing threat/tanking. It'll be interesting to see if the warden dev diary follows similar suit, in eliminating the threat traitline. The captain dev diary only talked about forced taunts, nothing regarding Captanks' previous threat skills. The burglar diary didn't mention anything about their threat skills/tanking contributions at all. It's possible all the interaction of grouping will be dissolved.
Edit to add: It'll really suck if MOBs pop up and instead of charging for the healer, go directly to the tank without them doing anything.
III. On number of instances.
I note it really comes down to there being only two group instances, one six-person and one raid, all the others are basically solo/duo. (Technically there is a three-person listed, but folks aren't going to be posting in LFF 2/3 since they can just duo it, so there are only two group instances in practice.)
How does this affect Wardens? Wardens have no 'force taunts' and (on live) build threat via over-time gambits or a small to medium amount at a time. Will warden skills be turned into force taunts? Or, essentially, will mobs think that 'oh that guys looks bad, lets attack him' any time someone is tank traited? This also brings up the matter of aggro swaps, like the Boss of ToO lightning wing or the Boss of OD fear wing. If threat is being a passive that messes up that kind of mechanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapience
Exactly my thoughts. Can a dev please clarify? Is threat becoming a passive thing you trait or is it still tied to active skills?Quote:
Originally Posted by stockboy
Will the expansion be available in the in-game store before launch?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sapience
I really worry that they will need to revise many of the solo quests. Some of them are really difficult for some classes on live. I worry specializing classes could make them even harder in some cases.
no expansion to this date has been available for pre-order through the in game store with TP so it will be available once Helms deep launchsQuote:
Originally Posted by q945
I suspect so. Note that those are NOT a part of the expansion, those were just bonuses for some tiers of purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crell_1
The other three are NOT just the same instance with extra tasks. The 3/6/12 person ones will be specifically designed for that size group as has been stated before these 40 questions. That means the differences will be more distinct than that between solo skirmish and raid skirmish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vandervahn
I hope this is hte answer you are hoping for -Quote:
Originally Posted by Madmanthief
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Q22: Revannos: Is a big reshuffle of the monster classes expected?
A22: HoarseDev: We have added in a second row of corruption slots. Furthermore, some corruptions will have set bonuses when slotted with other related corruptions. Slot three for a small bonus. Slot six to really specialize your build.
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As a long serving full time creep player now, I was hoping for a lot more than this to be honest. Very disappointed but have grown accustomed to the huge lack of 'love' given to the creeps. If creeps weren't here then PvMP wouldnt exist. :(
We are simply glorified NPC's that can fight back with the little skills we are given. So many excuses why things can't be done to help us, improve creeps, or add small things to make it enjoyable on this side of the game. We have just the one map area to explore.:mad:
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Originally Posted by Sapience
So, our golden rings of Rohan will become obsolete then ?
They've confirmed previously that Big Battles are completely intertwined with the epic story. It is Helm's Deep, after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easca
So we are going from 5 12-man instances in ToO, to 3 12-man instances in RoR, to 1 12-man instance in HD? Are you trying to kill big raids all together for the game?
Thanks for these answers. They put me at ease a bit after the vagueness of the dev diaries, which got me worried about the state of the development.
I'd still like to hear more about the new threat system and how it effects the gameplay style of tanking classes. If threat management isn't something a player can master and excel in anymore what will be the new challenge for tanks in group content?
edit: and for other classes; will it still be challenging to manage damage/healing output when the chance of overtaking a tank's aggro is reduced to almost nothing?
RoI only have 1 raid when it came out: Draigoch. And that was not even planned for RoI. Draigoch was supposed to come earlier. So we can expect more raid will come later. And I'll not expect too much on the new "big brother of skirmish", because with all classes messed up, even the devs cannot sure what each class can do, how they co-operate to others, and how they can deal with the mechanics. And with all these changes, players need to re-learn their class from the beginning again, so veterent or newbie, we all become noob again. So the save way to do this is only create 1 6 man and 1 raid, and make them easy so you dont need any specific class/ability/experience to run. I guess need at least few months for us to get use to, and for the devs to firgure out what need to fix, and what mechanics can work with new classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tecro