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Jun 24 2015, 12:33 PM
mobrien09

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Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

That's awesome about cosmetic weapons, I know people have been asking about that for a while.

@Vyvyanne

Will the issue with ranged weapons being held when doing melee skills (and vice versa) be addressed as well?

And, if I remember correctly, wasn't it stated that Turbine no longer had plans for full on expansion packs? I thought the plans were only for quarterly updates starting with Dol Amroth until the end of the game.

Thanks!
Jun 24 2015, 12:40 PM
Dmira

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

Can't wait to hear more about Cosmetic Weapons. This is very exciting!
Jun 24 2015, 12:45 PM
Reximus

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Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

Cosmetic Weapons!

OMG you don't know how much I love Turbine right this very moment! :D
Jun 24 2015, 12:55 PM
Reximus

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Originally Posted by djheydt

Cosmetic weapons.... after all these years of "it
can't be done..."

Cool.

But it's ironic, because after all these years of me
complaining about the LM's staffs Eruanne has gone
through, with weird-looking deely-dads atop them,
now she finally has a staff whose appearance I like:
an image of the White Tree.

I still hope cosmetic staff appearances will include
some that look like plain ol' sticks of wood.

They never said it can't be done, just that it was very hard to do because of animations. I would guess that they got around this by somehow restricting cosmetics to like items, staff has to be staff, sword has to be a sword, etc. If it works like current cosmetics, you should be able to use any staff in the game to change the look of your staff. I'd also agree that since Legendary Items came out, most staffs have been pretty horrible.

I'm going to have to start farming for some halberds now!
Jun 24 2015, 01:00 PM
Arathaert

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

Haha I love how errbody's like COSMEETIC WEEAAAAPPOONNNNZZZ!!! *drool* :D I just hope shields are included!

About PvMP testing on BR - last update I witnessed quite a few folks abusing the inspiration buff - a good 4-5 at once running around like idiots and 2-3 shotting anything that tried to come have a few test fights at gta. Add that to the "everyone's r15" thing and it destroyed any hope we had of halfway decent testing.

Is there any chance we can cap auto-ranking at 12 or 9 or something? People can transfer if they're higher-ranked than that and they can rank up to a reasonable level if they're newer. It'd give a better picture of what we can expect to see on live servers. That, and maybe try to have a GM around to police exploiters?
Jun 24 2015, 01:07 PM
Hurin

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Originally Posted by Arathaert

Haha I love how errbody's like COSMEETIC WEEAAAAPPOONNNNZZZ!!! *drool* :D I just hope shields are included!

I wouldn't hold my breath about shields.

While we've always been told that cosmetic weapons would be a "heavy lift". . . I'm pretty sure we were told shields were a full-on "no go."

--H
Jun 24 2015, 01:13 PM
Vyvyanne

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobrien09

That's awesome about cosmetic weapons, I know people have been asking about that for a while.

@Vyvyanne

Will the issue with ranged weapons being held when doing melee skills (and vice versa) be addressed as well?

And, if I remember correctly, wasn't it stated that Turbine no longer had plans for full on expansion packs? I thought the plans were only for quarterly updates starting with Dol Amroth until the end of the game.

Thanks!

Regular updates and no expansion packs is the current plan. We are doing new regions every full number update (U16, U17, etc) In between those (15.2, 16.2, etc) we are doing system work and smaller content drops like the PvMP map and Bingo Boffin.

The ranged weapons issue is a bug, I will have to look and see if that is something we have corrected, I am not sure that we have.

As for Cosmetic Weapons they work the same as cosmetic armor. You will have three new slots on your wardrobe for putting in any weapon or shield that you own. There will be some compatibility issues with certain items, but you will get a tool tip on the wardrobe for that slot telling you why they are not compatible and the visuals will default to the equipped weapon. There will be some bugs as we roll this out the first time as there are thousands of potential combos, but we are really happy to have it where it is and hope to expand upon it in coming updates.
Jun 24 2015, 01:19 PM
Econn71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

SOON!....LOL

But seriously, 16.2 will enter Open beta this weekend so please go check it out on Bullroarer if you have the chance. This will include the new PvMP zone, Adventures of Bingo Boffin and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

Update 17 is slated for the Fall. It is still to far out to be providing accurate details at this point.

Let us know when you have real information instead of the same old junk rehashed. We still want housing fixed get a clue.
Jun 24 2015, 01:22 PM
Lasagabaster

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Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

This will include ... and Cosmetic Weapons! Live release will be mid-summer.

####. Today I trashed a sword I had been saving for something like this for 2-3 years. =/
Jun 24 2015, 01:26 PM
Hurin

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Originally Posted by Econn71

Let us know when you have real information instead of the same old junk rehashed. We still want housing fixed get a clue.

A) This information is new.

B) Whoever raised you did a freakin' terrible job.
Jun 24 2015, 01:26 PM
robbie1435

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Originally Posted by Lasagabaster

####. Today I trashed a sword I had been saving for something like this for 2-3 years. =/

Submit an in-game ticket with item name :)
Jun 24 2015, 01:27 PM
Hurin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurin

I wouldn't hold my breath about shields.

I stand corrected.
Jun 24 2015, 01:30 PM
bucko39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

There will be some compatibility issues with certain items, but you will get a tool tip on the wardrobe for that slot telling you why they are not compatible and the visuals will default to the equipped weapon.

Something tells me a warden and/or guard shield cosmetic will be incompatible for my minstrel :)
Jun 24 2015, 01:33 PM
Hurin

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucko39

Something tells me a warden and/or guard shield cosmetic will be incompatible for my minstrel :)

One wonders if LMs will now get to have cosmetic shields.

(I hope not)
Jun 24 2015, 01:37 PM
Thorsock

Are we getting a Weapon section added to our Wardrobe?
Jun 24 2015, 01:38 PM
Jurny

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Originally Posted by bucko39

Something tells me a warden and/or guard shield cosmetic will be incompatible for my minstrel :)

Or better yet, give us the opportunity to turn the shield showing off?? I don't even understand why a minstrel has a shield! :/ But , just like the way we can have certain things show or not show, why not add this to the character screen as well? I would much rather not show a shield, then to look for 1 that is doable. I'm not a shield fan. In fact I have never seen 1 I ever liked in all these years on this game.
Jun 24 2015, 01:39 PM
Siddharta

Vyvyanne, please, give some hope to raiding community !
Jun 24 2015, 01:40 PM
bucko39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurin

One wonders if LMs will now get to have cosmetic shields.

(I hope not)

That would be a bit...weird.

This does make me wish I saved the "cool looking" weapons over the years. I can think of a champ sword right off the top of my head that I wanted to equip all the time--looked like something the corsairs are wielding in Gondor at the moment.

Wow, this might actually make me roll another toon--well done, Turbine!

LOL
Jun 24 2015, 01:42 PM
Leixy

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Originally Posted by Thorsock

Are we getting a Weapon section added to our Wardrobe?

From the way Vyvyanne phrased it, this sounds like a multi-patch thing, get the basics out the door in U16.2, add more features later while getting the bugs worked out.
Jun 24 2015, 01:45 PM
BangoTwinkletoes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

Regular updates and no expansion packs is the current plan. We are doing new regions every full number update (U16, U17, etc) In between those (15.2, 16.2, etc) we are doing system work and smaller content drops like the PvMP map and Bingo Boffin.

The ranged weapons issue is a bug, I will have to look and see if that is something we have corrected, I am not sure that we have.

As for Cosmetic Weapons they work the same as cosmetic armor. You will have three new slots on your wardrobe for putting in any weapon or shield that you own. There will be some compatibility issues with certain items, but you will get a tool tip on the wardrobe for that slot telling you why they are not compatible and the visuals will default to the equipped weapon. There will be some bugs as we roll this out the first time as there are thousands of potential combos, but we are really happy to have it where it is and hope to expand upon it in coming updates.

Re Cosmetic Weapons - this is absolutely fantastic news!!!! Just one small question though - is it the intent that the weapon, when equipped cosmetically, will retain the look and visual effects of the original? I'm thinking specifically of my old SOA-vintage mirrored ancient steel mace that I have sitting in my vault waiting for this very purpose. Would hate it if we lost the old light-damage visual effects :)
Jun 24 2015, 01:50 PM
Vulcwen

Quote:

Originally Posted by BangoTwinkletoes

Re Cosmetic Weapons - this is absolutely fantastic news!!!! Just one small question though - is it the intent that the weapon, when equipped cosmetically, will retain the look and visual effects of the original? I'm thinking specifically of my old SOA-vintage mirrored ancient steel mace that I have sitting in my vault waiting for this very purpose. Would hate it if we lost the old light-damage visual effects :)

I think this is one of those things that can end up suffering from bugs. I'd say that intially you'd need to have the same type of weapon equiped as you do cosmetically..
then, I'd like to know, what about classes that tend to swap between types of weapons (guards/champs mostly).. would it be possible to set cosmetics for each weapon type/slot combo that automatically changes accordingly*, or is it only 1 set per outfit?

* to clarify with an example: Let's say you have 2 swords when you dual wield, and a 2H axe, and you swap between that in combat, is it possible to set both those 2 swords and that axe to unique cosmetics, without having to swap outfits?
Jun 24 2015, 01:55 PM
Herwegur

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Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

As for Cosmetic Weapons they work the same as cosmetic armor. You will have three new slots on your wardrobe for putting in any weapon or shield that you own. There will be some compatibility issues with certain items, but you will get a tool tip on the wardrobe for that slot telling you why they are not compatible and the visuals will default to the equipped weapon. There will be some bugs as we roll this out the first time as there are thousands of potential combos, but we are really happy to have it where it is and hope to expand upon it in coming updates.

This is amazing news. Will this work for legendary weapons too, cosmetically equipping the look of older LI on new LI of same category? Or only limited to non-LI weapons?

*crossing fingers I can keep the look of my favorite LI staff forever on any new LI staves I upgrade to*

And big hint to the lotro store team: will pay for unique/exclusive weapon skins too.
Jun 24 2015, 01:57 PM
bucko39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herwegur

And big hint to the lotro store team: will pay for unique/exclusive weapon skins too.

I second this.
Jun 24 2015, 01:58 PM
Careth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyvyanne

There will be some compatibility issues with certain items, but you will get a tool tip on the wardrobe for that slot telling you why they are not compatible and the visuals will default to the equipped weapon.

@Vyvyanne

I do hope that we're not doing like for like only, as in I've equipped a one handed sword so I can only use a one handed sword as appearance. If that's the case I'm really worried for Runekeepers, as all they have is runestones...
Jun 24 2015, 02:09 PM
Aeviternus

Sounds like a long beta session before 16.2 goes live. Don't forget about the creeps, please.

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