Any reason why Mordor Ultimate Edition is not available for purchase anymore yet all other ones are?

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Originally Posted by maartena

I don't think this fight will come to a result on a public forum, so I would suggest the following. Take these things to a lawyer that is a member of the BAR in Massachussets:

- The contents of this link: https://web.archive.org/web/20170718...e.lotro-mordor
- The names of the exact products you are trying to acquire, and how they are obtained (Ultimate or Collector edition)
- You could take copies of all Federal Trade Commission Rules and Massachusetts Commonwealth Law (such as consumer protection laws, etc), but quite frankly, a lawyer should have ALL of that ready to go if he is a member of the state BAR association.

What this may do for you is determine whether they legally CAN sell the items you want again. As companies have all sorts of rights, they are under no obligation to actually sell a product (again) to the public if they choose not to. We the customers have no rights to demand from ANY company that a product should return to the shelves, so a lawyer won't be able to do THAT for you, but you might be able to present to SSG a case that they should be legally allowed to re-issue said "exclusive" items.

We here on forums can go back and forth on opinions on the matter, but I would think that SSG themselves has done some of the legal groundwork already based on past experiences, and as such they just don't bother re-releasing anything that is "exclusive" or "pre-order exclusive" or was a special release in one way or another, and marked as such under either federal or local commerce laws.

As such, you don't know, I do not know whether these "exclusive" items CAN be re-released if SSG chooses to, and a lawyer may have the answer to that question. Once that has been confirmed, all you can do next is ask SSG to pretty please re-release the Ultimate and Collector editions of Mordor.

All of the above is of course only a thing if there aren't any technical barriers. I know they changed the shop system right between Mordor and Minas Morgul, which is why you could purchase UPGRADES to "better" versions of an expansion from Minas Morgul forward (or was it Three Peaks?), something they were not technically able to do before, and at that time they said they wouldn't be able to change older versions of expansions in this manner, which may be related.

Anyways, with all of the above..... I wish you luck, and if you do decide to hire a lawyer, please do let us know your progress.

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I guess you read a bit too much into my hyperbole but oh well...

Anyways all i want is an answer from SSG, i am not here to speculate like everyone else keeps doing.

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Originally Posted by Novina

Anyways all i want is an answer from SSG, i am not here to speculate like everyone else keeps doing.

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Considering this very same question has been asked various times over the last year (since the removal of these two versions of the Mordor expansion pack), and NONE of those times a "blue name" from SSG has given an answer, I would surmise that this is the end of the road in getting an answer via means of the forum.

There are a couple of things you can try next:

1) Participate in the live streams from Cordovan on Friday's at Noon EST (09:00 PST, 18:00 CET, 17:00 GMT), and ask the question there. There is a chance it may get answered. If you do not get a response at all there, SSG may have good reasons to not divulge the true reason whe these were removed, or why they cannot be re-introduced. At the very least what this might do is bring it under the nose of Cordovan again, and you never know if he goes on Teams after the show and goes.... "You know, about the Ultimate version of Mordor......"

2) Do your own work and research into commerce laws with (or without) the help of a lawyer that specializes in these kinds of things. It may not give you the end-result you want, but it might be a step in the right direction by determining whether the current offering (with High Elf and VIP code) can still be offered legally. No guarantees they will, but a legal expert may give you some ammunition to push for it.

Over time, there have been a number of questions that SSG has carefully ignored and/or willingly not answered, and this particular question appears to be one of them.

That said, an official answer WAS already given here: (Somewhat, anyways.....)

https://forums.lotro.com/forums/show...k-Friday-Deals!

In particular, this entry: "These items will no longer be available after January 9th. New packages for the older expansions will be available at a future date, but may not include the exact same bonus items, so this is the final opportunity to get these specific packages with their listed bonus items."

And that is exactly what happened: A new package for Mordor was released to replace all three older packages, BUT does not include any of the "fluff". They also created new combination packages for expansions before Mordor, but ultimately made those expansions all free. The new Mordor package remained.

And with that, I think you have your answer: They removed the packages on January 9th, 2021, and they put them up for sale before that just in case anyone would still want them. And unless you take some sort of legal action into your own hands to figure out how it exactly works with "exclusive" items and whatnot, I am pretty sure that is where it ended, and that was the final call before the bar closed.

I don't think you are going to get any other answer from SSG but that one in the link.

I went ahead and asked this question in today's +Cord of the Rings and here is the official answer. I specifically asked if the cosmetics/mounts etc contained within the Ultimate Edition of Mordor would be offered as a separate stand-alone purchase for those who missed buying it in the past.

Cordovan's answer was that it may be something that they will look into some time in the future, but that as of right now there are no plans to do so.

https://i.imgur.com/4zX8qEs.png

Yes, I am telling you there is a chance. As to how high that chance is..... I cannot tell. I should emphasize again that there are NO PLANS to do so at this time, but they may revisit the issue in the future. Maybe not exactly what you want to hear, but......there appears to be a chance. A SMALL chance.