With about twice the Health of the player, and one hit that takes almost half Your Health. That's pretty overleveled for something labeled as "solo" in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadeOfLions
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With about twice the Health of the player, and one hit that takes almost half Your Health. That's pretty overleveled for something labeled as "solo" in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadeOfLions
Well, it sure as hell spawned in all my five attempts at the quest!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vilan
Are you sure the fire-drake wasn't lvl 500? ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fatty
But in all seriousnes, I havent had any problems with that quest on any of my characters, captain included. I find using yellow mark with a 100k+ morale pool quite helpful :D Maybe give that a try?
Also, make sure to upgrade your weapon with as many star-lit crystals as you can. The weapon damage goes up a lot in the last couple tiers. DPS basically tripled after maxing that out.
Noble Mark, banner + herald is obligatory, but given the combined damage from the drake and the mad Gondorian it simply isn't possible to regenerate Health quick enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Mandura
Sounds like the Scourge Drake Spawn would fit the bill. Could usually find a few multiple Scourge spawns when I last did them. Might have to wait another day to interact with the NPC if the Drake is too close. Failing that ask anyone in the locale to engage and run it off...Quote:
Originally Posted by MadeOfLions
Mac
There are probably 3-4 such drakes in pretty close proximity. Which by itself rules out kiting, since that means you likely end up having to fight all four + the Gondorian, which is definately insta-death.
Oh, and have you seriously tried asking for help in world chat in any MMO? It usually results in a stream of abuse your ignore list is too short to handle...Quote:
Originally Posted by Macdui
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Originally Posted by Fatty
I'd have opened the social panel and see if anyone was in the area then send them a tell. Could be they can advance a quest in the area whilst there.
Alternatively SSG could stop spawning extra Scourge mobs, if it hasn't been addressed.
Mac
Edit: Likely that anyone who would help has /wd switched off...
I'd say that the chance of a mob spawning/approaching as you interact with NPC is sort of a given in LOTRO. In Mordor alone there's this orc by Durthang stairs or that fire grim/drake near the dwarf by Barad Dur. And since we're not even safe in rez cycle, I believe it's always been intentional(if annoying).
As for asking for help - I regularly get and answer such calls. Of all the MMOs, this one has prolly the most mature community but depending on server/time and ppl online, it may take time to get assistance ofc.
Fatty:
Does the fire drake have a unique name (like Rotwing)? If yes, then that is one of the scourge bosses. If no, that is a normal mob. Normal mobs in that area are around level 108-109, the only mobs with a higher level will be in the level 115 dailies area and the scourge bosses.
If it is a normal mob, try pulling and killing it away from the NPC - try pulling it while still being far enough away from the NPC so it doesn't activate. Kill mob, then continue to NPC to activate it to do the quest.
If the mob is a scourge, then you will not be able to kill that solo. It may spawn near the NPC, but they also are not static, learn it's pathing and see if it moves far enough away so you can activate the NPC and drag it out of the mob's pathing. Watch chat channels for scourge raids, they frequently pop up, either join the raid or wait for them to kill the boss, then finish your quest.
As a last resort, try zoning out and going back, forcing a layer change. Map out to a low level zone, like Bree, then make your way back. This will sometimes put you on a different layer to where the mob may not be in your way.
It doesn't spawn there. He's dying to normal signatures...Quote:
Originally Posted by Macdui
Possibly a lack of light. It's in Dol Amarth, where you won't have a lot even if you've been paying attention and equipping quest rewards. I wonder if he's wearing something like a mathom set, which will put him at about -20 and taking far more damage than he should.Quote:
Originally Posted by siipperi
Pelargir solo under-leveled
If the Epic Battle system scales you up to level 100, it should be usable at low levels by any class at any rank, yet I have been unable to complete Pelargir solo on any character under 100.
Yesterday I attempted it unsuccessfully on my 70 RK. The first phase at the wench was fine. There were just enough mobs and NPCs to make sure I paid attention to the health of the wench and also help out with the enemies. Then I rode down to the next phase at the walled-off dock area with citizens and supplies to defend. It started off well enough for the first couple waves, but I knew it was going to quickly become trouble, since my Rank 1 Engineer was not able to dismantle, move, or upgrade any of the barricades to help with defense. After a couple minutes of killing corsairs and healing citizens and supplies, the pillager side quest started. I was able to get them all down quickly enough, but while I was doing so the walled camp was overrun with corsairs. THEN, while I was about halfway done with pillagers, the half-troll boss quest started! So I had to kill fleeing pillagers, kill an elite-master boss before time ran out, AND defend against wave after wave of corsairs attacking the camp. Completely impossible, on any class. I died within seconds, and the camp was flooded.
If solo EBs are supposed to be doable on any class at any level, they need to be revamped, top to bottom. If Pelargir and the other Gondor battles are meant for higher levels and the difficulty I've encountered is intended, then they should be disabled for lower level characters. But I've run into similar problems doing Rohan's Deeping-wall battle on other low level characters too.
If you don't have any promotion points, you're going to have a bad time on many BBs regardless of class, level, or gear. Until you can hit R2 or R3 especially, they can be difficult without a partner. That's just how they've always been.Quote:
Originally Posted by gildhur
No idea why they opened battles like that to lower levels. They have their spot in epic and should open accordingly.
Ok, if you partner with a high level/high rank player who can pretty much carry you through BBs so you earn the points and rank up your engineer/officer status, then I suppose you can do BBs at any level. But even so, many side quests, especially Pel/MT, require strong player DPS. And scaled up under-level aint gonna have it.
For the record, running BBs at 115 is a faceroll. Mobs can't scratch you while you rip them up.
I agree they need to revamp them for lower levels. Pelargir is a particular headache if you're solo and underlevel. I have found a way to get through it solo and underlevel but it can still be tricky. The first level with the winch usually is fine. The main thing to do in the second level with the docks and citizens is to destroy grappling hooks. Heal the Gondor captain every time it's up and destroy hooks the rest of the time. That keeps you from getting too many adds and you can still get the side quests in most cases. The Gondorians and twins will fight the adds usually with no problem. In the third area build one catapult and immediately use it 3-4 times. Then go back to destroying grappling hooks and healing the captain and fighting in between. You usually won't get overwhelmed and can finish for the epic. That being said, they really do need to work on the BBs for lower level characters. Not only is it extremely hard with no ranks, but the damage scaling is off when you are lower level.Quote:
Originally Posted by gildhur
There is a problem with this quest chain, which I'll report elsewhere, but the problem is not the reported difficulty level of defending Nos Grimsong. I also failed this quest on my first attempt. On my second attempt, I thought that I should use the "Prelude to Hope" skill to heal Nos Grimsong. However, instead, I accidentally stumbled upon the correct way to defend Nos Grimsong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatty
Fatty's recommendation is incorrect. The quest is do-able as the Journal level and icon specify.
Quest: Acolyte of the Necromancer
Category: Quest/Instance
Journal Level: 115
Journal Icon: Solo
Actual Level: 120 solo, 115 small fellowship
Actual Icon: Small Fellowship
Reason: This instance is pretty much impossible solo on-Level, the mobs that attack you, even if they're only in pairs, do way too much damage, you run out of Health and die pretty quickly in the second fight.
Quest: The Secret of Stormwall
Category: Quest+Instance
Journal Level: 119
Journal Icon: solo
Actual Level: Solo: Even when blind drunk it'd be ######## to make the tiniest assumption that this quest could be anything remotely near completeable solo
Actual Icon: Fellowship
Reason: In the journal this is labeled as level 119 and solo - it's a forced solo instance (WTH is up With that ####?? This is an MMO, dammit!!!!). The person that made this quest was obviously on hard drugs at the time, there's simply NO WAY this is completeable on-level on your own. First you have a long winding fight through overleved mobs to get to the actual instance. When the instance start, you first get set upon by two Worms (I think, at least that's what they looked like). When you finish that With maybe 10% of Your Health left, you get set upon by THREE fire-drakes, and even if you combined pots+self heals are enough to get you to full Health in time (which it most likely isn't) there is simply no way to survive the constant flames from THREE drakes - remember this is a FORCED SOLO instance!. Then, when you die you respawn WAY outside the area, meaning a LONG slog back to the instance…. UTTER STUPIDITY!!!
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Quest: Clutchroot's Glen
Category: Landscape
Journal Level: 120
Journal Icon: solo
Actual Level: Solo: Even when blind drunk it'd be ######## to make the tiniest assumption that this quest could be anything remotely near completeable solo
Actual Icon: Small Fellowship, non-DPS classes such as Captain and Guardian might need full Fellowship
Reason: In the journal this is labeled as level 120 and solo. The person that made this quest was obviously on hard drugs at the time, there's simply NO WAY this is completeable on-level on your own. The Huorns you have to fight aren't too bad as long as you encounter them on their own, but the hornest are ALWAYS in pairs, and ONE hit from ONE of them takes down at least 1/5 of your health, and 2-3 hits in rapid succession is way more than even a Captain can self-heal. So pretty quickly insta-death. No idea about the boss since it's simply impossible to reach. UTTER STUPIDITY!!!
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I've soloed this on both Captain (Red line) and Guardian (Red line). My Captain is still only level 122 and in Mordor Besieged, so I must have done it pretty much on level if not under level. My Guard is 126 and still in Vales, so may have been a bit over level, but he's not very well equipped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatty
Hunter, mini, and cappy have all done it solo on level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatty
What is your gear and how are your LIs? I've found later areas quite simple on my LM with crafted gear and my LIs maxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatty
Quest: Defence of the Carrock
Category: Quest+Instance
Journal Level: 120
Journal Icon: solo
Actual Level: Solo: Even when blind drunk it'd be ######## to make the tiniest assumption that this quest could be anything remotely near completeable solo
Actual Icon: Fellowship
Reason: In the journal this is labeled as level 120 and solo - it's a forced solo instance (WTH is up With that ####?? This is an MMO, dammit!!!!). The person that made this quest was obviously on hard drugs at the time, there's simply NO WAY this is completeable on-level on your own. The dragon you have to fight at the end has about three to four times your own health, and each hit does way more damage than is possible to self-heal. Then, when you die you respawn WAY outside the area, meaning a LONG slog back to restart the instance…. UTTER STUPIDITY!!!
Quest: The entire questline in Minas Morgul first tier
Category: Quest
Journal Level: 125
Journal Icon: solo
Actual Level: Solo: Even when blind drunk it'd be ######## to make the tiniest assumption that these quests could be anything remotely near completeable solo
Actual Icon: Small Fellowship, non-DPS classes like Captain might need full Fellowship
Reason: In the journal these are labeled as level 125 and solo - the area is as usual TINY and OVERLOADED with mobs. One on one they aren't too bad, but in 85% of the cases you virtually instantly get set upon by 2-3 mobs at a time, and then 2-3 more join out of thin airl. Since two-three hits takes 90 percent of your health, this means pretty much insta-death. Back when this game was an MMO and people actually did content, it likely wasn't too much of an issue, but now that it's a single player game with a semi-active chatroom it's simply impossible to get anyway near five steps into this area.
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