Perfect, I was just about to ask that question. My character I am currently leveling is only level 25 currently so I wanted to know if I should pull an all nighter or if it would still be around later. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordovan
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Perfect, I was just about to ask that question. My character I am currently leveling is only level 25 currently so I wanted to know if I should pull an all nighter or if it would still be around later. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordovan
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Originally Posted by lenny322000
This is maybe Old Gnawer in Skumfil.
(Unrelated, what does Skumfil mean?)
I just figured it out before I saw this message :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordovan
So you actually need to be VIP or buy new region to be able to do it and probably lvl115 (maybe lvl110+ can do that introduction but I don't have lvl110-114 character to check it).
It's just coincidence since we do introduction and black book 6.1 at the same time usually but I didn't finish 6.1 after completing introduction on purpose and old tome appeared for me...
Thanks. I completed that at the same time I did 6.1 before I went back and checked, so that is why I thought 6.1 was requiredQuote:
Originally Posted by Cordovan
We got the 2nd page that translates to Nameless, which Thorin tells you. The problem is we mistranslated it and jumped to the last page for that part.
We thought it meant without brother.
I love to know what nameless really meant.
How in the world did you find these so fast?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChromiteSwiftpaw
Please tell me what is a gnawed piece of metal? Where can I find it? It doesn`t make sence in german, well I think so ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziv
Community on Landroval and Evernight collaborating back and forth.Quote:
Originally Posted by CmdrMagic
I got my goat. Will try to give the details as quickly as I can. Please be patient.
My only guess is he plays his main on landy, these type of events thrive on that server.Quote:
Originally Posted by CmdrMagic
Where is 'someone who knows something about the flower sketch' for The Mad Dwarf quest?
You can find it in SkumfilQuote:
Originally Posted by Lediria
Ask an elf in a place where there are lots of Elves near Moria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt
OK First.. a proper screenshot, unobscured and lit:
Goat of Erebor's Royal Guard 68% runspeed and 200 morale (REALLY SSG? Not even 250?)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...RoyalGuard.png
NOW.. For all the people saying "You can find it in Skumfil!" STOP it. Of course you can BUT you have to be at the right quest stage to get it.
Third page of the book is in Zudrugund, i.e. inside Nar's Peak... the library.
Getting that page completes the quest and you get a new rune that sends you to Thorin's Hall.
You find Orring in Thorin's hall, above the crafting area on a ledge. (Just explore up there)
He sends you to Nud-Melek.
Go to where the dorf you talk to for the epic is at 9.1S, 101.6W
You get some elvish and a picture of flower.
Quests says to talk to someone who may know about it. Find that elf in Caras Galadhon, on the way to the INNER stables.
Elf sends you to find Nauthlandir. That's in Fangorn (AKA Entwood - AKA Derndingle mode) 41.1S 82.6W
Back to Elf, Back to Orring, Back to outside Bat Cave, Click on Tattered Note
This starts the final quest. Back to Othrikar, Talk to Luki. Talk to Runvarth.
Collect the items needed. Black Adamant, Khazad-gold Ingot and NOW you can go to Skumfil left side and the item needed is on the left NOT on Old Gnawer but just in his room.
Turn in stuff, go back to Erebor, go allll the way back to the right hand side next to the throne pedestal on the right side room and the keyhole is there. Click it, enter door, kill dude, turn in quest at Thorin.
I'm tired. Thanks to Elisapee for the translations and help while he was streaming, Thanks to Yolli and Crazypants for all the help as well. I'm going to bed.
No. Hurry up. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChromiteSwiftpaw
Great screen. Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChromiteSwiftpaw
We love to seeing players working together like this. Have fun everyone and enjoy your well-earned goats! :-)
Ok... and what Nameless has to do with all of this? How it's supposed to find the page in Zudrugund?..
So is moria necessary to complete this quest?
Going into Moria is.. don't know if you need Moria Expansion to do the quest parts in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tureaglin
This is exactly what i was wondering as well , how are you supposed to know and go to nar's peak ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phindecano
PS. The only thing i can think of is the extra attention payed to Nar while one of the final erebor quests in the feasting table.
That is the puzzling bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phindecano
I can enter moria but not hte Skumfil instance - so am I okay?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChromiteSwiftpaw
That would be a sticking point :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by Tureaglin
Well seems I'm fked then. Is there a way to go to Skumfil without an instance?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChromiteSwiftpaw
http://i63.tinypic.com/zu1ddx.jpg
Fun event, Enjoyed it ;)
Belegaer first!
http://www.bilder-upload.eu/show.php...1521664359.jpg
Nameless. Nar's Peak. Same number of letters. That must be it! (Assuming a dropped apostrophe.) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phindecano
Back in the Dunland (Enedwaith?) epic quest line, Nar used to forget names all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phindecano
Listen to the exchange between Nona and Nár
Frithgeir has prepared the brew for Nár, and you should now see if it has the promised effect.
Nona says, "What did you say to my brother Wadu when he came here?"
Nár says, "Wadu?"
Nár says, "Aye, he was a brave dwarf."
Nona says, "My brother was not a dwarf!"
Frithgeir says, "Nár, it is ready. I have this for you!"
Nár says, "This is strong-smelling stuff, is it not? To your health!"
Nár says, "Ooooh...who are you? When did you arrive at my hall?'
Nona says, "Tell me what you said to my brother! Tell me what you said to Wadu!"
Still waiting for someone who explain me the link between Nameless and Nar's peak.
This quest is a nice idea but that step made me give up, too casual. Same for Skumfil thing. You should have clarified you need an expansion pack cause a quest like that is supposed to be cleared without any p2p content tho.
Believe me. We LOVE this kind of thing too. It was so fun combining brains and time between much of the community. I was in communication with a lot of people the whole time and tried to keep the information flowing in this thread too. Sadly, there were some people who weren't wanting to help out the community but we still got past that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrOctothorpe
Also, who was the dev that snuck in this thread and posted this :)
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Originally Posted by LastScavenger
Every bit as awesome as the culmination of the 10th Anniversary's Scavenger Hunt. A heartfelt thank-you, SSG!
Now that was fun! Happy to have guessed quite a lot on my own and grateful to friends (and strangers) for help when I got stuck.
That Nameless one took us the longest.
Congrats to all that participated and thx to all posting in this thread & helping each other out in game / on discord.
Was fun to get the whole community involved today - thx for the new goat!
tyvm
i m at bat cave still cant find the note .......
m i missing something?
Thanks Everyone, especially Chromite!
It's on the steps of the door outside bat caveQuote:
Originally Posted by Valakircka
What bat cave?Quote:
Originally Posted by Valakircka
Hope it's okay to link this...
https://lilithvallin.deviantart.com/...hart-338778881
Cool resource for translating some of the game's other runes, as well (given the distinction between Moria and Erebor runes).
It's on the south end of the Mirrormere in northern Lothlorien.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoohooham
Well, I'd just like to say well done and thank you to all the people who managed to work out this mess of "clues". Made no sense to me at all even after Chromite posted the solution. And the goat's only got 200 health. (Yes. I'm being that guy. It's my turn.)
The bat cave near Durin's Crossing in Durin's Way in Moria.Quote:
Originally Posted by DwarfMover
If I remember it correctly, Nár had lost his memory when we first meet him in the game and is referred to as "Nameless". But I'm not 100% sure about that, it's been a while ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phindecano
Found this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanath
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/N%C3%A1r
Barely explains it.
Just want to say this was an awesome event. Thanks for everyones help on this thread and in Arkenstone world chat. Was fun trying to decipher stuff and really got me into the lore. Wish we would get more stuff like this (especially the type of reward)
Boy did that take a while!
Can you imagine trying to do that with NO community support?!!!!
EEK!
Thanks all!
Agreed- more of this kind of stuff would be great. It was fun, and thanks Chromite and other in here for helping out with stuck moments. I couldn't get the Quipquip to work flawlessly, and had to change letters sometimes (or just fill on the blanks when they did silly things), so I avoided the thread for a while until I got the poem bit sorted. Have to admit though, the link between Nar and Nameless had me stumped. the only thing I can think of is epliogue quest in Erebor, (possible spoiler on main N Mirkwood questline, do not read further if you don't want to see it ). . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by kickman77
when Thorin III is throwing a bit of a bash and Nar joins the party. I can't remember the dialogue, but seem to remember Thorin mentioning something about a nameless friend. I could just be imagining that though :)
No I think you're on to something! I vaguely remember that! Gonna have to check when my next alt goes through!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnenna
ive been all through erebor and didnt see anything
ZarârgharâfQuote:
Originally Posted by DwarfMover
4.3S, 110.1W
I really don't want to dig through 10 pages of spoilers but I guess it's either that, or ask here.
I just logged in and there is no mention of an event.
I've heard of secret events, but this is really secret.
Should I just wait for this to come up in a quest chain, or is this something I need to stumble onto ?
Go one floor above the keg quest giver in Erebor and it should pop up for you, if you've done the intro to the Dale-Lands where you talk to Thranduil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sito_Origami
ok, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by dselden
Location of the gnawed piece of metal in Skumfil:
https://i.imgur.com/zKPTMjO.png
Last guy is borked, cannot complete.
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Originally Posted by DwarfMover
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Originally Posted by Nanath
For me a good riddle is one that you can't solve for some time but then, when you find (or you told) the solution, you exclaim: "Wow! How is it possible I didn't find out it earlier? It's so obvious!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnenna
When you have 5+ possible answers on why the riddle has this solution and not another, it's... ehm... not a very good riddle imo. For some reason I have a feeling that the first person who found the last page at Nar's Peak made it accidentally by spamming "delete" key in all the significant areas of Middle-Earth instead of solving a puzzle :p
It would be really nice if an author of this quest (was it MadeOfLions or DrOctothorpe?) come out and explain what exactly was his idea behind the "Nameless" clue :rolleyes:
Same on Landroval, last guy borked in Secret Stone roomQuote:
Originally Posted by Aedon
Apparently you need to get everyone to leave the room for a certain amount of time (maybe a couple minutes) to get Grotur to reset.
Congrats to all who completed the quest line! :)
Yeah, I'd like a confirmation on that too. I'll leave my 'treasure hunter' character on the shores of Mirrormere until I either figure out the link between those two runic words on that pedestal (the paper with the word nameless + the MBÔ(NG)D* or BREGO in other translation key, on the pedestal) and Nár's Peak, or someone gives a reasonable explanation :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phindecano
I read all the quest texts concerning Nár and his Peak, and didn't see any mention of anyone calling him Nameless. It's possible that I missed something, though, because I am in kinda hurry most of the days...
And I'm not sure about the thing him forgetting names either .. it seems as if he, in his crazy state, is actually pulling persons, monsters and names out of his imagination or memories, and connecting them to people in real life, instead of not remembering any names as such. And when he gets sober for a while, he just doesn't recognize all the people around him because he wakes up from this stupor. That would never lead me to him in nameless business.
I'll get to the finish line eventually, but I want to do it in some sort of 'from clue-to-clue' order, as I understand it should be doable as well.
* might be the last rune is GW .. can't see it clearly enough
So can you still start this, or was it only yesterday? I can't imagine they woudl do something like this with a mount reward that's only doable one day. All the players who weren't available to play that day.. Also is it soloable?
It has already been confirmed by Cord that this will still be available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celebrawn
Yes it is soloable, few level 58 mobs and a single level 115 throughout the questline.
Also just want to share my thanks for the quest.
Cord confirmed that this quest chain is available from now on, no time limit. You need to finish Intro to NMW to pick up the quest though (I also had to literally jump on top of the NPC giving the first quest to start it as he had no ring over his head and there was no scrap of paper near him - that was right after the event went live though so a relog would prolly help as well). You also must have Moria xpac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celebrawn
There's a nice screenshot on the page 4 of this thread showing the starting point.
It's completely soloable, you only need to fight one serious mob(and some lvl 58 ones).
you can still do it, but i am wondering how you are supposed to enter inner calas caladhon if you havent unlocked the necessary quest chain yet. the rope outside wont work. any ideas?
Access to Calas Caladhon is reputation based. You have to own Lothlorien xpac. The "inner" is the name of the stable, not the house/palace in trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Findun
That thing completly ruined my mood about this nice treasure hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by TharbadThief
I mean, i dont like to put efforts on a thing that i find is completly random...
Anyways.... good idea, thanks for the fun and the efforts. i hope you will do this kind of things more often.
I played some MMO (Ultima Online docet) where some Staff members were focused only on this kind of quests. Would be a nice way to entertain playerbase.
I totally agree those In Game Masters (IGMs) brought an extra element to the game which the player base appreciated. I remember them adding more forges in Bree so player characters had more space to repair and armour and weapons for new players who could not repair their own. That was where I gained my first silver enchanted weapon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rialtan
They later evolved into Event Moderators (EVMs) and Europa was lucky enough to have a roleplayer as theirs. He would take time when not running events in game around the Lord British story arc to attend player run events etc.
Certainly by todays games UO is very old, but it still leads the way as far as many things go, such as housing customisation, and the player run RP community they supported.
Yesterday I finished the quest!. This Puzzle was quite Fun, i even got out the "The Return of the King" Book i had, to translate the runes! and help of some friends
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DY3cMN6UMAEsqEk.jpg:large
I cleared this place out and could not get the last piece. Is this bugged? Am I doing something wrong? I did get 2/3 pieces. Whats the trick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aedon
Do you mean the third scrap of paper or third ingredient for key?Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit1968
The third ingredient. I found a sword and a shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by kudurru1
You need 1 Khazad-gold ingot, 1 Black Adamant(not shard) and a piece of Gnawed Metal from Gnawer boss room in Skumfil instance.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit1968
The problem is I could not find the piece of Gnawed Metal. It wasnt in the roomQuote:
Originally Posted by kudurru1
Great event, even if the clues were too obscure for me to solve it myself. I did manage to finish it, by standing on the shoulders of giants as it were. A big thumbs up to those who solved it, and so quickly as well! Nicely done.
You must be at the correct point in the quest chain, when the second dwarf in Othrikar asks for the ingredients. I run Skumfill early on when I deciphered the message and the metal piece wasn't there.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit1968
Also, a friend of mine had problems getting it, said he had to search the room a bit, turn around etc. It is selectable, by spamming DEL I was able to see it even before entering the room - maybe it has several respawn places?
Ok, thanks. Ill try the DEL trick. was probably hidden in a wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by kudurru1
You know where it is the first page for the goat after speaking with thorin
It was hidden in a little alcove when I found it. It was set where you couldn't see it unless you were almost right in front of it and facing towards it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobbit1968
Since the runa are translated not that to make follow like after the first page
Hello! I am responsible for this puzzle :) I will come out from behind the curtain since this is mostly solved.
Nameless was the keyword for the keyword cipher that lets you decode the ciphered text. Basically, this step was skipped because that quipquip website (I have never heard of before!) let you brute-force the cipher and got you most of the way there.
Now that the text is all translated, what does the first letter of each of those text bits spell out? I numbered them for a reason!
Thanks for playing, everyone! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I really enjoyed the quest. Please do more in the future. My only criticism would be please leave the quest line connective tissue in place as we move through the objectives. It was very confusing to have the quest simply end, and not know there was another step without reading the forums. I realize you wanted us to participate as a community, but these dead ends felt more like simply looking for spoilers as a short cut, rather than trying to figure something out in a cooperative fashion.Quote:
Originally Posted by LansuEV
Otherwise, loved it.
Thanks for stepping out and thanks for the great lotro workout. I do hope to see more of it in the future. That page numbering thing is sneaky (you sneaky thing lol), but makes perfect sense now. Poor Nar, there he was for a day or two, totally the centre of attention, only to be undone by a handful of paper :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LansuEV
Great job.
One possible altered version could be having "Nameless, In Exile" as it gives both the cipher key and the lead to go see Nar in Zudrugund.Quote:
Originally Posted by LansuEV
Typing out the cipher, that makes more sense:
LETTERS: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z CIPHER: N A M E L S B C D F G H I J K O P Q R T U V W X Y Z
Nevermind, I'm in idiot.
After solving the cipher, there's the line "None but the line of Durin may know of it"
Last king in Erebor was Thor (before the time in exile). So he would be the last dwarf to know.
>> Thror's Coomb -> Zudrugund. Which was also his last place of residence before venturing back into Moria to be slain by Azog the defiler, Nar being the confidant of Thror at the time.
Now it all makes sense!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LansuEV
Thank you so much for this , amazing job ! I really had an awesome afternoon yesterday!
Hope to see more in the future and i am confident it will get better and better !
No more skips for us ! Make it so we actually have to solve the mystery before being able to advance.
#SecretEvent Hype. <3
That was great fun! good job! I had fun translating the runes myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by LansuEV
Monoalphabetic Substitution Cipher. Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by LansuEV
Then i apologize and i retract my prior critique.
The one underneath Way...nvm.Quote:
Originally Posted by DwarfMover
I still can't help but feel that the quest lacks some connective tissue between the coded pages from the chests and the runes. On their own both just seem to be dead ends with no reason to connect them.
One other criticism, and I don't really super care, but felt it should be noted, by sending us to Moria, you are in essence sending us back in time. At that point in the progression of the game, the Iron Garrison has been driven out Moria. So you really shouldn't have been sending us there.
So I talked to Orring in Thorin's hall and he suggested I go find Rúnvarth. I have searched and cannot find any other reference to Rúnvarth. I don't know where I'm supposed to be directed to now. I know what the forums tell me to do. But I want to know why I should go to a bat cave.....what am I missing that indicates I should go there..?
I do not have the rep to enter Calas Caladhon, I tried the rope but it has no effect. Is there any other way to get into the area without fussing with rep and such?
SPOILER
Unless I'm missing something, there is a typo on page 4. The pages are:
This decodes to:Quote:
Znqnbcnqns dr wclql tcl gly qlindjr. / Ujelq bunqe. Yku wdhh jlle tk oqlrljt tclrl: / Edsslqljt rtkjl, enqg nje rtqkjb. / Rltqdlvle sqki tcl ello odt, / Ujelq bunqe ks tcl bjnwdjb kjl. / Bkhe, idjle nje skqble dj ikqdn. / Ujtdh yku ckhe tclrl dtlir, tcl wny wdhh qlindj rcut. / Jkjl aut tcl hdjl ks Euqdj iny gjkw ks dt, aut / Euqdjr skhg, alwnql wcnt huqgr djrdel.
So, page 4 should be:Quote:
Zaragharaf is where the key remains. / Under guard. You will need to present these: / Different stone, dark and strong. / Setrieved from the deep pit, / Under guard of the gnawing one. / Gold, mined and forged in moria. / Until you hold these items, the way will remain shut. / None but the line of Durin may know of it, but / Durins folk, beware what lurks inside.
And then yield:Quote:
Qltqdlvle sqki tcl ello odt,
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Zaragharaf is where the key remains. / Under guard. You will need to present these: / Different stone, dark and strong. / Retrieved from the deep pit, / Under guard of the gnawing one. / Gold, mined and forged in moria. / Until you hold these items, the way will remain shut. / None but the line of Durin may know of it, but / Durins folk, beware what lurks inside.
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LansuEV excellent job.
Now persuade others to excel and engage with us.
The red text briefed us so I'm fine with the little confusing quest breaks. And thank you all the cryptographists and rune experts willing to share.
Mac
The last quest can be/is bugged.
If a player interact with the stone in the secret chamber but then not going close to the dwarf NPC, the quest will be blocked for all fallowing players. :(
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Originally Posted by gcpate
No comments on your post, but come on, Black Text on the default style makes text very hard to read.
I think its for to hide the info for spoilers... use your mouse over the text and its very clearly visible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandolf_TheOld
Sergio :-)
Yeah, was bugged for me yesterday, but today all was fine and finished it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaerArianrhod
Sergio :-)
First line of deciphered poem: Zaragharaf is where the key remains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannariel
This is location outside that bat cave where you actually should go to find a discarded parchment.
If that rope isn't active for you already then short answer is no. It activates for players who have specific epic vol. III quest (book 6 iirc) that require you to go there or proper anniversary quest (which is obviously not possible now).Quote:
Originally Posted by Yor02
It is also active while introduction: Northern Mirkwood is underway but you have to finish it to start this scavenger. These are 3 exceptions I know from general rule which requires you have friend reputation with Galadhrims to enter Caras Galadhon.
However unlike someone claimed you don't have to own this region. You should have acquaintance rep from epic and the rest can be done doing some preparation quests available to everyone. Also if you already been there earlier thanks to mentioned above exceptions and tagged inner stables then you can simply swift travel there from Galtrev since they didn't add reputation requirement for stables that connect with CG but were added later than Lothlorien (there is 1 more I think, you can check in stables panel).
Ah, if you are curious then you can't be summoned or ported there without friend rep, so no workaround that way.
I have to agree with you. If I hadn't looked on Lotro-wiki I would not know where to go at the end of The Mad Dwarf in order to start The Key and the Keyhole.Quote:
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Evidently I missed the text of the poem. I was pretty sure I had read everything I found because I have pages of notes....but going back it wasn't til I read the text in Wiki-pedia quest notes that I saw the poem. I came back on another character to do the quest and never saw any poem for that character either! Without lotro-wiki I never would have seen the poem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by marmi