What is new in the store, armors?????

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Originally Posted by Sapience

Many players have given us feedback that there is a sparcity of gear on the AH at these levels and they wanted an alternative. We're trying to accomodate that.

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I find that hard to believe.

Many times I see low level gear (even critted) offered for free in chat.




Looks like the feces is hitting the Turbine...

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Originally Posted by Sapience

It's lower level gear. Many players have given us feedback that there is a sparcity of gear on the AH at these levels and they wanted an alternative. We're trying to accomodate that.

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Doesn't this really mean a sparcity of gear, period? If there were decent gear available through normal gameplay, then players wouldn't need to go to the AH. Mentioning the AH is a misdirection. If the problem is not enough gear at XYZ level, then it should be fixed by normal methods.

Orange gear? Oh. oh I dream of those, I havent seeing one ever......:rolleyes::rolleyes: (Oh #### now I gave LOTRO more ideas about what sell in store) :D;)

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Originally Posted by Silverangel

Doesn't this really mean a sparcity of gear, period? If there were decent gear available through normal gameplay, then players wouldn't need to go to the AH. Mentioning the AH is a misdirection. If the problem is not enough gear at XYZ level, then it should be fixed by normal methods.

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QFT like for example quests that give you a whole set of armor or whole set of jewelery like already exists at higher levels, or make those sets that already exist in the skirmish easier to obtain (with less requirements or less cost)

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Originally Posted by Silverangel

Doesn't this really mean a sparcity of gear, period? If there were decent gear available through normal gameplay, then players wouldn't need to go to the AH. Mentioning the AH is a misdirection. If the problem is not enough gear at XYZ level, then it should be fixed by normal methods.

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I agree, but I think that you, I, and many others in this thread have a different idea of what a "normal method" is to fix an alleged problem in LOTRO than do the people who have been deciding what "fixes" to implement.

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Originally Posted by Bryos

I find that hard to believe.

Many times I see low level gear (even critted) offered for free in chat.


Looks like the feces is hitting the Turbine...

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I rarely, if ever, see people offering up free crit gear in chat. Also, I have a level 28 Champ on Crickhollow, who is not a crafter. I looked on the AH a few days back for some decent crit gear, as I've amassed a decent amount of gold already, and there was NOTHING crit anywhere from the mid-twenties to 28.

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Originally Posted by Bryos

I find that hard to believe.

Many times I see low level gear (even critted) offered for free in chat.




Looks like the feces is hitting the Turbine...

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exactly...i cannot tell you how many times i put low level stuff on the ah and see it come back to me unsold.

even at below cost prices.

this is just another way to make the crafter obsolete

I have seen many people offering free gear no crit is true, but if you ask around in the general chat and you are willing to pay, many people will craft it for you.

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Originally Posted by megaboy

exactly...i cannot tell you how many times i put low level stuff on the ah and see it come back to me unsold.

even at below cost prices.

this is just another way to make the crafter obsolete

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And I have the exact opposite experience both on Elendilmir where I've listed the things that I've made many times and always sold them and then on Crickhollow where I've put up crit gear I've won in the lotto and didn't need and those always sell.

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Originally Posted by Ayrolen

I rarely, if ever, see people offering up free crit gear in chat. Also, I have a level 28 Champ on Crickhollow, who is not a crafter. I looked on the AH a few days back for some decent crit gear, as I've amassed a decent amount of gold already, and there was NOTHING crit anywhere from the mid-twenties to 28.

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Have you yourself asked for a crafter to make gear for you? If not, you should...there is more than likely someone out there who would make gear.

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Originally Posted by Silverangel

Doesn't this really mean a sparcity of gear, period? If there were decent gear available through normal gameplay, then players wouldn't need to go to the AH. Mentioning the AH is a misdirection. If the problem is not enough gear at XYZ level, then it should be fixed by normal methods.

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Let's turn this around a bit. The game is now nearing it's five year anniversary. Many, many, many people have reached max level during these years. So this means the gear currently in the game is good enough to get through the levels.

So why these ridiculously priced pieces in store?

My own guess is to gather data for the push to sell gear at all levels in future.

I can't believe this. I've actually joined the cynical tinfoil hatters.

Bad form, turbine. You are alianating your fans fast this way.

Exactly what levels are these armors equipable at? I'd like to make an honest comparison with crafted gear but I'm not sure how these tiers translate to player level.

I can't believe this has arrived at the store. What a low blow. Simply disgusting work.

The GM said the armors are for low level.

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Originally Posted by Borafin

Have you yourself asked for a crafter to make gear for you? If not, you should...there is more than likely someone out there who would make gear.

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I ask kinsmen on my main server when I need something, sure. But I'm not willing to sit around waiting for some random crafter to gather up the mats necessary (if they don't have them), then make everything, when I don't have a lot of time to play. I'm an instant gratification kind of gal, so if it's not on the AH or I don't have a friend willing to make it for me and send it to me later, I won't bother. Granted, I also won't buy it from the store out of principle. /shrug

Look for yourself:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01...through-the-s/

While it may only be newbie gear at the moment, it WILL evolve into end-game someday. How do I know? They originally said they would not place items with stats on them in the LotRO Store but they did that. What's to stop them when they start making money off the low level stuff from making high level stuff? P2W FTW! I'm guessing no GM will reply to this thread, or try to shed light, since they really do not care about the community.

Idk, if you believe this forum, this game has been in its death throes since beta.

There is only one thing to do now. Craft our collective butts off and flood all AHes with good in-game gear.

I'll add my vote against this as well. The word was there would not be advantage or gear sold in the store. This directly violates both of those, and sets a very bad precedence and opening move later on.

There's not lower level gear on the AH? Gee, I don't think there's enough high end and raid level gear on the AH either. Does that mean it should be added to the store as well? NO!

Gear does not belong in the store. Period. At all. Ever. And I frankly don't care what level it is.

All I can see this doing is preying on those just starting who haven't figured out that gear at those levels is replaced in about 15 minutes of paytime anyways as you level up and complete those entry quests that provide decent enough as it is. Those levels don't need to buy gear- they get it as quest rewards. And it just sets it up to offer at higher levels as well. Bad move.

Granted I try to ignore the Store as much as possible but... I got an Ad saying they are going to sell Armour in the store for TP. Is this a new option for the store or has it been there all along?

I see Light, Medium and Heavy for sale.


http://www.lotro.com/lotrostorenew

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Originally Posted by Moondog548

If they stop here fine but they just gave us reason to worry (for the first time, IMO) about their stopping power. :(

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Ah, but the trick is that suddenly, once you begin to worry, you realize that all the other reasons to worry that you dismissed were probably legitimate causes for worry as well.

We were recently told that (effectively store-only) stat tomes totaling +70 per stat weren't any reason to worry. . . and before that store-only relics weren't a reason to worry. . . and prior to that, the store-only stacking potions. You get the idea. . .

The trick is to stand on principle. When we don't do that, they take an inch at a time, knowing that each time we'll compromise on principle and merely say: "It's not that bad." It's never that bad all at once. But rest assured that we'll get there one small step at a time.

Yes it's new

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01...through-the-s/

You might what to see what is coming:
http://www.lotro.com/lotrostorenew
on January 17, 2011 in the store

The opinions stated on that forum - you can choose to agree, disagree or somewhere in between. The heavy shown is taken from Turbine's web site.

Here is an article regarding this stuff.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01...through-the-s/

Speaking as a long-time EVE player, I'm all too familiar with staring into the giant gaping pit of the hell that is people being able to pay real money for in-game items. CCP (EVE's developer) learned their lesson and backed away from it after enough vehement community feedback. Turbine/WB have an important choice to make here, it's becoming clear (not just from these forums but from internet reaction in general) that there is going to be very little support, and most likely a lot of vitriol over this decision.

You must choose... but please choose wisely. LotR:O is one of the few MMOs left that I always come back to check in on (and spend money on).