Originally Posted by
Vanyaerunanethiel
Yea I was wrong about "Classic loot" and FA symbols ,thank the Vala finally I can be wrong as well. It took me few years to fail. You added the FA in in-proper way.
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The dedicated and hardcore team is so tiny, few will and did Tier IIc I m going to give you an example on Ithil. 2 groups for now only did Tier IIC Sammanth Gul. I was one of them. 90% are not even willing to try Tier II raid finding it too long to complete. And those who did said : Was hours of pain , maybe never again. It was mind numbing and tiresome,surely the challenge felt good, but it felt if we faced arifitical difficutly with foes having 300% additional morale and hitting high as Vala even on Tanks or to rely on dumb luck and hope boss wont spam non curable dot,bleed or fear you. There is a notable difference between a proper challenge and absurdity. Nobody else did Tier II raid not because they are incapable but do not have time or investment and are discouraged with enormous difference of Tier I ~ II and how certain mechanics work in particular challenges , not to mention huge amount of Trash in BG or Wound wing in OD which is simply distancing players away.
Let us look at Tier IIc Ost Dunhoth or Thrang Tier II. I do not want to say it is impossible. I am sure both servers will do it at some point,. Nobody can survive the Thrang Onslaught on Legendary and one will need nearly perfectly coordinated group with top DPS to complete entire raid with RNG and luck on your side as well. It is not the right approach. I love the way the raids are now compared to Moria, but again you have to understand the Morale,scaling and certain damage even from Tier I is simply unacceptable.
[...] players not willing to work as team,Nevertheless you should scale down the amount of morale in Tier II instances,fix our finesse and give the tanks the proper Tanking setup not only in raids but 3&6 man as well. But if we are honest sometimes is hard to blame players too if they quit if we judge everything accordingly.