Good 1v1 Thread!

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Originally Posted by Radardog

I find trick kiting kind of lame and a very slow fight. Yeah if you have it maxed out with LIs, you're probably going to win the fight.. eventually. You can't blame a reaver from just going 'whatever' and moving on. I can usually get high ranked reavers to around 2k before having to hips, then I try to follow up with a huge surprise strike and a few hits to seal the deal. So that's at least 2 CDs (TnG, iHIPs) and a potion in any successful reaver fight.

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A reaver cant be completely kited by a burg...we don't have damaging ranged skills to do that. we have a stun/heal and a random weak personal CJ we can use from 8.5m away with trick range which are all on 40sec-1.30minute CD as you know. I do kite at points i believe i shouldn't be in melee or don't have to be. I also don't use touch and go but rather use knives out against reavers/wargs in 1v1 and if needed i use a hips to get another big hit from stealth just as you mentioned.

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Originally Posted by cpkram00

and who would the top 2 be

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the 2 reavers i believe are hardest would be wuffles/fardo but I still havent had a 1v1 with nandrolone since his return. Reaver class is really simple to play and there is only 1 thing that separates a mediocre reaver from an awesome played reaver and that's movement.

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Originally Posted by sebo2yoface

Reaver class is really simple to play and there is only 1 thing that separates a mediocre reaver from an awesome played reaver and that's movement.

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That's very true, in my opinion as well. It's very difficult being a Reaver that stands out, and when I fight the ones that are supposedly the best, they seem no different to me than everyone else. That's what happens when you only have like, 10 skills.

Alright well first as those of you who were there know, Buppkiss and I spent some time early this morning roaming around the Ettenmoors and ended up accidentally starting a fight club in front of TR. After the results of that morning I have the following things to say:

1) Nerf Radar, seriously. You are the only RK who keeps their power up through all 2 minutes of the Banner of Terror (most can't even keep up their power without the Banner affecting them).

2) I need to fight a more suicidal Minstrel to get that KB. Preferably Kara who only knows about Damage, fears, and rezzes.

3) Banner of Terror is the I win button versus Champs and Guardians. I cannot wait until I can deploy that in combat.

4) Burglars will be off the hit list soon. I just need to find one that uses HiPs offensively and not to run.

5) In combat Banner of Terror will not save me from Radar. The duration is too short.

6) I must remember to buy more stun pots whenever I get the chance. Fighting Radar with only 2 is a sure way to guarantee that the fight will not drag out 10+ minutes.

7) In combat Banner of Terror will be enough to survive the Minstrel's new Interrupt. But it's still dumb to put it on such a short CD IMO. Would've been nicer to have seen another melee skill for them.

I also fought 3 rounds with Neren. I don't know what you are doing, but you hit hard enough and crit often enough that my current build seems to be insufficient to defeat you. Of course once I dropped the BoT it was an entirely different story =D

And Cynthri, we need a rematch. Preferably one where you haven't been Captain buffed.

Fun 1v1s Smashey (wish we weren't interruped), Leekae (2 nice remorseless crits that second fight, ouch).

Champ CDs are tough.

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Fun 1v1s Smashey (wish we weren't interruped), Leekae (2 nice remorseless crits that second fight, ouch).

Champ CDs are tough.

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The first fight I hit Cb but noticed it didnt go off properly so I was going to try the kiting method. No dice there. The second, you got the charge on me, I figured I'd open with a few Remorseless strikes and it paid off. I did get CB to activate that second time around but, no pots and no DR were up either.

/Bow

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

2) I need to fight a more suicidal Minstrel to get that KB. Preferably Kara who only knows about Damage, fears, and rezzes.

7) In combat Banner of Terror will be enough to survive the Minstrel's new Interrupt. But it's still dumb to put it on such a short CD IMO. Would've been nicer to have seen another melee skill for them.

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I'd love to fight you. Warleader fights can last a while, so I would not engage you around a map in as we would be interrupted.

I have now played my minstrel on Bullroarer, and another melee skill would not fit the class with how they've been evolving it for a couple years, sadly. Not to mention the whole point is to not be in melee for long considering we have one melee skill. I actually fight a lot more in melee than most minstrels I know, as I am not a fan of kiting (which my class can do easily and extensively with traited anthems). However I think you will find that the banner still won't always be enough of a help for minstrels (or RKs) with very high power pools. For those with less than 5000 power (not sure of the right threshold), then I can see it being a huge advantage especially if the minstrel doesn't drop warspeech when the fight is extensive.

The interrupt on a short cooldown is dependent on the minstrel being in warspeech. If they drop, it goes on a much longer cooldown and the fight then becomes all about power management which should make those fights pretty fun!

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Originally Posted by leekofthewood

The first fight I hit Cb but noticed it didnt go off properly so I was going to try the kiting method. No dice there. The second, you got the charge on me, I figured I'd open with a few Remorseless strikes and it paid off. I did get CB to activate that second time around but, no pots and no DR were up either.

/Bow

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Yeah, it's always a dice roll with Remorseless. Definitely paid off for you that fight. For the first fight, my uber reaver slow managed to actually hit every time, which probably helped vs. the kite.

I was semi-alt-tabbed before that first fight, which is why I didn't attempt to charge. Glad I tabbed back in!

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Nice 1v1, Siddious.

Was out soloing for a bit today. Two fights came to mind that could have gone either way:

1) Postoffice - great fight, glad you stuck around until I got a decent surprise strike off. (I know I stalled a lot before the fight got going, but I feel I need as much help as possible against well played reavers)

2) Lovedoctor - been awhile since I've found a decently ranked defiler around alone, the reaver finished me off, and I barely was able to get you down in the process. You were probably half a sec away from finishing your big heal before the last hit.

Nice fight, Eo - I wanna find you with CB up.

Nice 1v1, Turak.

Double pledge/fortitude is tough.

Nice fight, Silencing.

Radar, you hit like a deathstar. It doesn't matter that you don't kite.

I wish one of my disarms would hit you. :(

Nice fight, Gallagale.

Out for a bit -- thanks for all of the fights (and to anyone who didn't interrupt).

/salute

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Radar, you hit like a deathstar. It doesn't matter that you don't kite.

I wish one of my disarms would hit you. :(

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lol this skill almost always miss or i dunno even when anti-wound is not up ... still i dunno if the skill have a probleme or something

Turbine just hates Creeps. True story.

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice fight, Eo - I wanna find you with CB up.

Nice 1v1, Turak.

Double pledge/fortitude is tough.

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That was a fun fight for the main reason that you scared the crud out of me. We were doing a data center upgrade at work today and I had some downtime throughout the day to get some lotro on my laptop. The laptop screen is a much smaller field of view since I cant being myself to zoom all the way out so when you charged on me I didnt see you coming and then thought to my self OMG DnD is after me!!! Do Stuff to him!!!

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Originally Posted by PF-Grumpy

That was a fun fight for the main reason that you scared the crud out of me. We were doing a data center upgrade at work today and I had some downtime throughout the day to get some lotro on my laptop. The laptop screen is a much smaller field of view since I cant being myself to zoom all the way out so when you charged on me I didnt see you coming and then thought to my self OMG DnD is after me!!! Do Stuff to him!!!

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LOL...

I kinda had a feeling that you didn't see me coming. :D

just had an epic 1v1 with Ugmog, too bad your back up didn't arrive earlier lol

Just FYI webzilla, I didn't kill you once I saw you were having connection problems over at lugs.

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Originally Posted by -Sylvan-Shadow-

Just FYI webzilla, I didn't kill you once I saw you were having connection problems over at lugs.

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Yeah, I noticed, thanks for that! Also thanks for the fun 1v1s we were having all day, maybe one day I'll be able to win. :o

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Originally Posted by Faisal

Yeah, I noticed, thanks for that! Also thanks for the fun 1v1s we were having all day, maybe one day I'll be able to win. :o

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and again at WTA ford lol

No prob, yeah very fun, you have more guts then most of the creeps out here.
Yeah, you'll definitely be a challenge at a higher rank.
I'll work on my strat when it comes to you ;)

Thanks for the three or four 1 v1's I was able to get into. I finally won my second 1 v 1 in about 50 tries. Lost .437 rating being rolled, so at least you all by then end weren't getting much from me...lol

Faedros (sp).. sorry I called out 1 v 1 and heard back the creep group wouldn't interfere, but another couple guys came down and smacked you. my bad.

On another note I think I have a reaver group secretly following me...... 0.0

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thanks Eoblod for the romp near rop. I'm still tryin to work on movement and skill execution, so any nonsteamrolling practice is appreciated. /salute

Thanks for the 1v1s Sidius, Nandir, Silencing, Cynthri, Arrival, Rauve and so many others I can't remember all the names. Also thanks for those people who didn't interrupt.

Nice fights:
Caradhrz, Silencing, Karathyn, Cadros, Candrandir, Rauva

(LoL @ Alaster for darktide thing and hitting touch and go when I'm at 2k from fighting Rauva) :D;)

Thanks for the fun/challenging fights, folks. :cool:

TY Arctic for another good fight. I realized after the fact that I was probably near the banner, so my bad for that. I did tell my LM to not put SI on me, though. /bow and thanks for always fighting me when so many won't!

Was also fun watching Wuffles fight a lot of folks. Top reaver <3

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Originally Posted by JebboGrenfoot

thanks Eoblod for the romp near rop. I'm still tryin to work on movement and skill execution, so any nonsteamrolling practice is appreciated. /salute

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Yeah, they were nice fights. I won't want to run into you when you get a couple ranks!


=)

Rutroh. Finally got a uninterrupted 1v1 with no NPCs.

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Originally Posted by Anarionadama

Rutroh. Finally got a uninterrupted 1v1 with no NPCs.

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/salute

There is something very satisfying about killing each other at the same time, no one goes to the victory circle empty handed. :D

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

TY Arctic for another good fight. I realized after the fact that I was probably near the banner, so my bad for that. I did tell my LM to not put SI on me, though. /bow and thanks for always fighting me when so many won't!

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Heh, I'll admit that that's what I was waiting for. It was a fun fight anyways and I hope to win next time around. ^^

Also, thanks to Cynthri, Arrival, Eo, and Xelo for the fights yesterday as well.

Aye, first time my mouse decided to die... that's why I quit fighting at the end :D

Second fight... you had me real scared there, lol

Thanks Eo for the 1 v 1, I almost had you then all my skills stopped working, also thanks to the freep that came up early in our fight and left realizing we were having a sith vs jedi moment.

And thanks to the hunter that came in right at the end when my skills were not working to kill me off, pfft :P


Will see you for another 1 v 1 soon! (I think Invisus was sad I didn't call you out since he was chasing you beforehand lol).

Sars.

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Originally Posted by mikejeff

Aye, first time my mouse decided to die... that's why I quit fighting at the end :D

Second fight... you had me real scared there, lol

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Yeah, I was wondering what was going on in that first fight. Thought you were catching some lag.

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Originally Posted by mikejeff

Aye, first time my mouse decided to die... that's why I quit fighting at the end :D

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Throw away all those cordless mice, it isn't worth it.

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Originally Posted by Badferret

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There is something very satisfying about killing each other at the same time, no one goes to the victory circle empty handed. :D

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Sorry about the one this evening, I had grabbed a dress for the Picture and was on my way back. Didn't want to miss it :)

Thanks for the 1v1s tonight.

Slightly less thanks for those who I chased all over for infamy (you may have done better if you fought).

Until tomorrow...

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(Oldbones, hopefully we can find a 1v1 sometime. That first fight was fated to be interrupted. I tried to find you again after you chucked a javelin at me, but wanted to regen my power first. WDN fights are impossible enough with full power. :cool:)

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Originally Posted by Jungleghost

(I think Invisus was sad I didn't call you out since he was chasing you beforehand lol).

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lol It's true. A greenie called out your location around Lugz and I went in the direction of Luc's old flightpath, while Sars went the other way.

Sars found you first and by that time, I had already reached TR. (I'm just that fast.)

Then I finally found you and had a good couple of 1v1s with ya! Twice, though, I made the error of not paying attention to what buffs you had on and tried to pounce you while you were immune to stuns. I'm rusty. :(

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Originally Posted by The_Observer

lol It's true. A greenie called out your location around Lugz and I went in the direction of Luc's old flightpath, while Sars went the other way.

Sars found you first and by that time, I had already reached TR. (I'm just that fast.)

Then I finally found you and had a good couple of 1v1s with ya! Twice, though, I made the error of not paying attention to what buffs you had on and tried to pounce you while you were immune to stuns. I'm rusty. :(

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Yeah they were good fights, I was mad I lost the 1st one but was happy with a tie in the second.

This isn't to say that I ~should~ have won or lost but I have been really frustrated at my own noobish mistakes lately. I keep forgetting to turn CBR off, Forgetting to turn fervour on, Kiting when I am bleeding, popping horns when creeps have blue dot buffs. I mean I'm getting blown-up with creeps leaving the fights at half health sometimes.


It's funny how fights go when we don't make mistakes.

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Originally Posted by PF-Grumpy

It's funny how fights go when we don't make mistakes.

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Yep. A mini was beating on me yesterday, and I was thinking, wth, then looked down and noticed that not only had I not power-drained it, but I had silenced it either.

Luckily I noticed before I was past the event horizon.

I haven't seen or heard of you on your champ in a while, so I imagine you're a bit rusty like I am.

Rusty? Yeah I'd have to agree.

I managed to sneak all the way up behind him as he was watching a pair of NPCs, switch my aura (roars), drop a banner (roars), eat food, and then dropped my Banner of Terror and attacked as he decided that now was the time to pull the two NPC orcs.

And may I make the suggestion that kiting a Warleader only hurts you since it gives them space for getting off inductions and time for shouts to cooldown?

But it was actually a very good fight. If you'd gotten lucky with crits in a few places I would've gone down. I also did managed to avoid a stun or two which helped out a lot.

And I ended up in a bunch of spars with creeps, some wargs, a Reaver, a Buppkiss, and two Warleaders. And if you want to finish a Warleader vs Warleader spar, ban healing.

Rauva; you are a testament to how easy RKs actually are to play and be successful with. Deliberately avoiding engaging until the Banner of Terror was gone after asking for a 1v1* is pretty conservative and safe. That pretty much describes how you fight. Oh and when Oprah and I ganged up on you it was unarranged. When Dine and I did, that was arranged, but only because I wanted you off the path lowbies would be taking from Grams to Lugz.

I'll see you again at Rank 9.

Revex, Great fights. I was really excited about getting you after I got you to burn Man heal and was very happy when the Minstrel did not engage. Then the LM jumped on me. Thank you for backing off when that happened. You didn't have to, but it was a courteous gesture. The kiting maneuver you pulled after the LM was taken care of and I was lagging and you were at 70 health with the Destiny Point Regen buff on, on the other hand, was not.

Mark, you just learned an important lesson about high ranked Warleaders. Power Drain will not save you! Nor will Strength of Morale, or Wisdom of the Council, or spamming CC (thank you for full DR by the way). Unfortunately for you the LM versus Warleader fight is lopsided in favor of the Warleader. Still, nice effort after Rev backed out and I'm glad you didn't try to run for the hills and escape.

And Eo; sorry we didnt get a rematch there, but I'm sure we'll bump into each other again.

And to all the various Hunters who have Burned Hot on me from stealth in the past few weeks;
Congratulations! I hope you continue to make use of the Hunter's skillset to pursue 1v1s even after the next patch goes live and HS damage tanks again. I'll still be looking for you. Both before and after Rank 9. Enjoy it while you can.


*I'm assuming that jumping up and down is the signal for "I want a 1v1" and not "If you don't have a warg pack jump" or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

Mark, you just learned an important lesson about high ranked Warleaders. Power Drain will not save you! Nor will Strength of Morale, or Wisdom of the Council, or spamming CC (thank you for full DR by the way). Unfortunately for you the LM versus Warleader fight is lopsided in favor of the Warleader. Still, nice effort after Rev backed out and I'm glad you didn't try to run for the hills and escape.

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I'd use an eagle on you and your tone might change.

If LMs would stop using cats and ravens, they might see what a puddle of goo they can turn WLs, BAs, Spiders and Defilers into. But they wont use eagles.

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

And Eo; sorry we didnt get a rematch there, but I'm sure we'll bump into each other again.

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No problem! I don't like 1v1s during the day anyways since I have to tab out for work. I left your area and found a BA standing in a fire trap, but Snowpaw and his pal didnt want to see that happen. They jumped me as I went around the rock to wait the trap out. :)

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

Rauva; you are a testament to how easy RKs actually are to play and be successful with. Deliberately avoiding engaging until the Banner of Terror was gone after asking for a 1v1* is pretty conservative and safe. That pretty much describes how you fight. Oh and when Oprah and I ganged up on you it was unarranged. When Dine and I did, that was arranged, but only because I wanted you off the path lowbies would be taking from Grams to Lugz.

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I have a sincere question. Why would you ever expect anyone to fight you in you banner if they had a choice (as in positioning themselves away from it)? :eek:

I only ask as playing a minstrel, I most certainly wouldn't fight you in your banner if I had room to move out of it without pulling NPCs/running into other creeps, etc.

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Originally Posted by PF-Grumpy

I'd use an eagle on you and your tone might change.

If LMs would stop using cats and ravens, they might see what a puddle of goo they can turn WLs, BAs, Spiders and Defilers into. But they wont use eagles.

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The eagle does . . . extra flanking and a self rez? That's not going to be as much of an inconvenience as you might think. Oh, and so far I've always been able to kill the LM's pet when I've wanted to so we'll see just how much difference the eagle makes.

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

The eagle does . . . extra flanking and a self rez? That's not going to be as much of an inconvenience as you might think. Oh, and so far I've always been able to kill the LM's pet when I've wanted to so we'll see just how much difference the eagle makes.

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Constant interrupts. It's like a burg's addle without the lasting induction debuff. It would make heals very difficult to get off while it was alive. LMs can also combat summon now if they trait for it. So the LM could re-summon if they needed to (although most LMs I know don't use that trait - I happen to <3 it).

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

The eagle does . . . extra flanking and a self rez? That's not going to be as much of an inconvenience as you might think. Oh, and so far I've always been able to kill the LM's pet when I've wanted to so we'll see just how much difference the eagle makes.

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Awwwwww... you went offline. :(

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Constant interrupts.

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Constant. You'd be cussing for sure.

Edit to add (I'd also CC only in order to heal the birdie)

Well, that's that. Good 1v3 Ugmog. Class horn 4tw!

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Originally Posted by leekofthewood

Well, that's that. Good 1v3 Ugmog. Class horn 4tw!

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Yeah, well that's what happens when you fight in front of the last creep keep while the freepnami is coming, people show up.

I really need to remember to change my Banner to "DoNotDisturb" when I get into 1v1s.

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

I really need to remember to change my Banner to "DoNotDisturb" when I get into 1v1s.

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Yeah, but how many of us play with "names on"?

I don't think I've ever selected a banner or rk stone or lm pet or whatever unless someone told me to because there was a funny name.

But I get what you're saying. I'm just making banter. lol

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

I have a sincere question. Why would you ever expect anyone to fight you in you banner if they had a choice (as in positioning themselves away from it)? :eek:

I only ask as playing a minstrel, I most certainly wouldn't fight you in your banner if I had room to move out of it without pulling NPCs/running into other creeps, etc.

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To try to balance out the fight and make it challenging?

A minstrel against a WL (especially below rank 9) is really a Die vs 1 if the minstrel has a clue on how to play his class for pvp.

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Originally Posted by Forza24

To trying to balance out the fight and make it challenging?

A minstrel against a WL (especially below rank 9) is really a Die vs 1 if the minstrel has a clue on how to play his class for pvp.

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That is analogous to expecting people not to use CDs.

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Originally Posted by Forza24

To trying to balance out the fight and make it challenging?

A minstrel against a WL (especially below rank 9) is really a Die vs 1.

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Well it could be, but given minstrels have no reliable interrupts until the patch, it often goes on for ages and the minstrel needs to drop warspeech if they're smart once they realize they can't crit enough to burn the WL down - and they won't crit much if the WL is R6 or higher. You can't burn through 9-10k morale (or similar) in warspeech, getting no crits, no interrupts, all while in a banner that kills damage, healing and regen, and expect to finish the fight either way. You have to drop warspeech once you go through a cycle or 2 of WS skills (when you reach 1/2 power) and at that point, the fight is entirely about power, heh.

I have no problem fighting a WL in a banner if I engage him naturally. But my impression was, this was an arranged/agreed on 1v1. I don't see anything wrong with waiting for it to drop, or trying to move the fight out of it.

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

Rauva; you are a testament to how easy RKs actually are to play and be successful with. Deliberately avoiding engaging until the Banner of Terror was gone after asking for a 1v1* is pretty conservative and safe. That pretty much describes how you fight. Oh and when Oprah and I ganged up on you it was unarranged. When Dine and I did, that was arranged, but only because I wanted you off the path lowbies would be taking from Grams to Lugz.

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Like Jaiyne said, I do not think anyone is obligated to fight you with your banner up. However, with that being said, I fought you two times last night with the banner of terror. I'm not sure why you forgot to mention that? It made no difference in the outcome of our fights, so I'm really not worried about it. I will fight you anytime you want with your banner. I'll leave it at that because I don't really want to get into what else your post is implying about me.

Anyway, I would like to thank everyone I have had a good 1v1 with since I have been out. Arctic, I have always had good fights with you and you have fought to the end no matter what. Fardochee, you are the best reaver on the server imo, and I always enjoy seeing you out. Webbzilla, you are already tougher than most of the high ranked spiders, and I hope to see you rank up some more. Any creep or freep who goes out looking for a 1v1 has my respect. Ugmog, thanks for the fights.

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Originally Posted by PF-Grumpy

I keep forgetting to turn CBR off, Forgetting to turn fervour on, Kiting when I am bleeding, popping horns when creeps have blue dot buffs. I mean I'm getting blown-up with creeps leaving the fights at half health sometimes.


It's funny how fights go when we don't make mistakes.

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I protest your efforts at better play, you are a much more agreeable fellow when you are making the above mistakes. ;)

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Well it could be, but given minstrels have no reliable interrupts until the patch, it often goes on for ages and the minstrel needs to drop warspeech if they're smart once they realize they can't crit enough to burn the WL down - and they won't crit much if the WL is R6 or higher. You can't burn through 9-10k morale (or similar) in warspeech, getting no crits, no interrupts, all while in a banner that kills damage, healing and regen, and expect to finish the fight either way. You have to drop warspeech once you go through a cycle or 2 of WS skills (when you reach 1/2 power) and at that point, the fight is entirely about power, heh.

I have no problem fighting a WL in a banner if I engage him naturally. But my impression was, this was an arranged/agreed on 1v1. I don't see anything wrong with waiting for it to drop, or trying to move the fight out of it.

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AND assuming that the WL is solo. Ugmog is the first, and Only, Warleader that I know of to even Be alone in a given area.

Everything here is possible. A minstrel IS able to bring down a WL. But these circumstances deal a lot of Ifs.
However, I do know it is possible to burn a rank 7 WL down to 1.5k in WS (with retaining 3.1k power in a 4.3k power pool). I don't know how it would have turned out because of the wargs.

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Originally Posted by Anarionadama

AND assuming that the WL is solo. Ugmog is the first, and Only, Warleader that I know of to even Be alone in a given area.

Everything here is possible. A minstrel IS able to bring down a WL. But these circumstances deal a lot of Ifs.
However, I do know it is possible to burn a rank 7 WL down to 1.5k in WS (with retaining 3.1k power in a 4.3k power pool). I don't know how it would have turned out because of the wargs.

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WLs that run builds that bring them "only" (lol) to 7k morale are a wholly different creep to fight. I have seen a WL buffed with more than 11k morale. I am not kidding. I have 5.3k morale and 5.1k power in my DPS gear. It was lulzworthy to try to DPS through that even though my tactical crit and tactical offense are extremely high.

Minstrels when they crit, hit hard. It is very rare to crit on a ranked WL consistently. We also have zero reliable way to interrupt anything. If the WL has a lot of morale and we do not crit, we must drop WS. At the end of the day, it was implied that a WL v Minstrel fight is a faceroll. My point is simply, no, that's incorrect.

Back to the original segue, the banner. If someone wants to stand around in a fight club and spar me (which is what this sounds like), I'm going to move away from the banner. If I come across a solo WL already standing in his banner, I'll fight wherever the fight goes.

EDIT - I am going to stop derailing my own thread O.o /exit

I like this thread. The forums have been much less tense lately, and I think this thread is helping with that.

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Originally Posted by Raveren

I like this thread. The forums have been much less tense lately, and I think this thread is helping with that.

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Yer fat .

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

WLs that run builds that bring them "only" (lol) to 7k morale are a wholly different creep to fight. I have seen a WL buffed with more than 11k morale. I am not kidding. I have 5.3k morale and 5.1k power in my DPS gear. It was lulzworthy to try to DPS through that even though my tactical crit and tactical offense are extremely high.

Minstrels when they crit, hit hard. It is very rare to crit on a ranked WL consistently. We also have zero reliable way to interrupt anything. If the WL has a lot of morale and we do not crit, we must drop WS. At the end of the day, it was implied that a WL v Minstrel fight is a faceroll. My point is simply, no, that's incorrect.

Back to the original segue, the banner. If someone wants to stand around in a fight club and spar me (which is what this sounds like), I'm going to move away from the banner. If I come across a solo WL already standing in his banner, I'll fight wherever the fight goes.

EDIT - I am going to stop derailing my own thread O.o /exit

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Do you have a WL Jaiyne? by do you have I really mean, have you played a WL consistently for a few weeks?

I'll give you that playing against a high rank (rank 9 and above) would be a lot tougher, but a WL below rank 8 should be an easy kill.

Maybe you are approaching the fight to the WLs advantage; it might not be just about spamming dps on him as fast as you can, something that anybody can do.

I think a WL pointing out advantages that Minstrels have against them has a better case than a minstrel doing the opposite.

And to stay on topic...

Good 1vs1 One shotter standing by the rez, you totally owned me. :)

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

Rauva; you are a testament to how easy RKs actually are to play and be successful with. Deliberately avoiding engaging until the Banner of Terror was gone after asking for a 1v1* is pretty conservative and safe. That pretty much describes how you fight. Oh and when Oprah and I ganged up on you it was unarranged. When Dine and I did, that was arranged, but only because I wanted you off the path lowbies would be taking from Grams to Lugz.

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Why do you expect players to fight when the situation is for your advantage is beyond me. I personally, most of the time, will not fight in a disadvantage if I had the choice, and I am sure many others are the same.

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That pretty much describes how you fight.

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I guess then we could say this describes how you play: if a 1v1 doesn't go too well for you, you come on the forums and call the other person out?

Of course that's not remotely true, but I'm just assuming things on a first impression, like you did earlier.

I'd like to thank everyone who has taken the time out of their days to fight me in this past year and a half ;) :cool:

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Originally Posted by Forza24

Do you have a WL Jaiyne? by do you have I really mean, have you played a WL consistently for a few weeks?

I'll give you that playing against a high rank (rank 9 and above) would be a lot tougher, but a WL below rank 8 should be an easy kill.

Maybe you are approaching the fight to the WLs advantage; it might not be just about spamming dps on him as fast as you can, something that anybody can do.

I think a WL pointing out advantages that Minstrels have against them has a better case than a minstrel doing the opposite.

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I have a noob WL. Very low rank (>R3), so my experience is admittedly super limited. And no, I have never lost a fight to any WL 1:1 (although it's not a super common 1:1 occurrence for obvious reasons - so give me time and I sure I will lose more than one lol!), and I think a minstrel should win for all the reasons we both know. I just was saying it's not a fight that's necessarily going to only last 20 seconds because the minstrel crits x4 or interrupts the last heal; it often lasts longer (ie, not a faceroll), which imo, makes for much more interesting fights. It started about the banner. If I have a choice, I wouldn't stand in it. If I don't have a choice, I'll still fight.

I also wasn't pointing out advantages (??) - I simply asked a question because I didn't understand a post calling out someone for not willingly standing in a banner if they have a choice (as it sounded as if it were some sort of duel).

I don't really know what to make out of the "spamming dps as fast as you can" comment. I'm not really into that ;)

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Originally Posted by rengots

Anyway, I would like to thank everyone I have had a good 1v1 with since I have been out.

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Nice fights. You, like any kiting RK, are a royal pain if it's an open field and even one of my disarm/dust/slows misses.

I'm happy just to split fights against you and other RKs.

Confucious say, "Man who jump from Aoeroplane without first checking parachute, jump to conclusions."

On another note, I should never post in the forums at 1 AM.

Okay where do I begin in the mess I've made . . .

Rauva,
I did not bother to mention any of our fights in detail (and I lost all of them) and only mentioned the one incident because you did the jump in the air thing, I charged towards you (I may have eaten food beforehand, I don't even remember), and managed to deploy the Banner. Jumping up and down, to me, signals a maximum aggression fight to the death. If that is NOT your definition of the jumping up and down thing then we can go to the "Fight to the Death" thread and debate it there.

But as you discovered, a Runekeeper fighting within the Radius is no where near as crippled or debilitated as you might think. I've fought a lot of RKs and I know that the good ones will kill me with no problems unless that Banner is Deployed. Even then all it means is that I stand a higher chance of getting the RK into a power starved state where I have a chance at winning the fight. Assuming other players to know these things about my class (when there are, honestly, very few who play it and engage in 1v1s) and hoping that they would choose to engage on a more level playing field was an error on my part.

I must've been subconciously trying to write more into that unwritten code book that vets are supposed to use to force everyone else to play the way they want to. My bad.


Gilly,
As I stated above, my own interpretation of the jumping up and down thing is the one and only reason I would ever expect someone to fight me under the Banner of Terror. Otherwise it's just wishful thinking on my part. *points at the Confucious say quote* That's a reminder to me about false expectations.


Eo,
I know you have a policy of fighting to the death in a 1v1 and I respect that greatly. You're one of the few non RKs, Guards, or Wardens that I personally see soloing in the Moors regularly. On the Eagle thing, talk is cheap. I expect that it turns out to be more useful than the other pets versus a Warleader, but since it still does common damage and has to go through BPE that it will not be quite as effective as you'd think. We'll all find out after some LMs and eagles have gone a few rounds with some of the Warleaders on the server.


Kara,
I forgot to mention this when it happend but you reminded me of a fight with Gaelbo I had in HH a few days ago. He pulverized me, in the Banner of Terror, and without dropping below 2K power (if I remember correctly). The fight was literally 30 seconds long. I don't know how well he did on his crits since I didn't check (though I imagine it was quite well) but I can tell you that he had clearly thought about how our last fight went and its progression. He adjusted his strategy accordingly and was highly successful.

So you're right, and it is possible for a Minstrel to take down a Warleader, but it is far less if dependant than you might think.


Faims,
That line you pointed out is precisely why I shouldn't post at 1 AM. Ordinarily, when I post on the forums I write up everything I want to say, look over it again for editing purposes and to ask the question "Does this add anything worthwhile to the conversation?" I then post it and reread it one more time for editing purposes. I often find some spelling or grammar mistake after it has been posted and promptly edit it.

Unfortunately when I post at 1 AM my brain does not do so well at checking myself for grammar and to see if what is being said is constructive. Having fought something between 5-7 rounds with Rauva and seeing the exact same 8 skills used every time (versus the ridiculous match I had with Radar where he used probably every damage skill RKs have) and also getting slowed for kiting if I should try to get close for a melee attack I was starting to feel supremely agitated and annoyed. Coupled with my tiredness I posted that and called out Revex.

But you want to know what the ironic twist in this is? The internal argument for posting that I can remember having was, "I've only posted fights I've won recently and need to balance that out." Nice thought, wrong time.


Sorry about that disturbance everyone it was somewhat out of character for me and I will do my best not to have a repeat performance, now back to your regularly scheduled 1v1s.


If Tl;DR, Read the first 2 lines and the last 2 lines.

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

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I don't really know what to make out of the "spamming dps as fast as you can" comment. I'm not really into that ;)

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I should have used better wording; it was just a general thought to what a lot of minstrels do, which in many situations works perfectly.

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Originally Posted by Ivaneus

On the Eagle thing, talk is cheap. I expect that it turns out to be more useful than the other pets versus a Warleader, but since it still does common damage and has to go through BPE that it will not be quite as effective as you'd think. We'll all find out after some LMs and eagles have gone a few rounds with some of the Warleaders on the server.

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But.. But... I have gone a few rounds with some of the war leaders on the server.

You don't use an eagle for the damage. You use it for the interrupts. LMs can do plenty of spike damage and damage over time without the need for the pet, all the while debuffing a WLs limited melee attacks. Nandir and I put our eagles on a defiler buddy of ours one night to test it and he was so mad at not being able to heal that he logged off. In addition to that the eagle will increase the severity of the DoTs. If you kill it, I can rez it. It you attack it, I can mez you (up to three times reliably) to heal it.

A LM could put the eagle on you and the majoity of your heals would be interrupted while kiting you into oblivion. I think of all the classes, if I were to see a WL while solo on my LM I would be most excited.

In the end though you are right. Talk is cheap. I haven't played my LM actively for sometime so I'll need to get some practice in and meet you for tea and interrupts!

Cheerio Old boy!

Nice 1v1, Drebo

/salute to GotD for not dismounting

Nice fight, Stanimir.

Nice fight, Benjimir.

Nice 2v4:
Garny, Brootgar, Lolien, Prometheus

Maybe next time. :cool:

Nice 2v2s Radar/Elladril

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice 1v1, Drebo

/salute to GotD for not dismounting

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Ya sorry about the first time, we didn't actually know it was only you guys down there as we had just rolled out. /salute

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

Ya sorry about the first time, we didn't actually know it was only you guys down there as we had just rolled out. /salute

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It's cool. We were called out a few times throughout the night I think...lol.
(wouldn't be surprised if the call-outs didn't accurately depict it being just two of us)

Thanks for not dismounting.

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Nice 2v2 Garrath/Urdric

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice fight, Stanimir.

Nice fight, Benjimir.

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Thanks, it was definitely a fun one if not a bit one sided. Got a little cocky since I schooled a lower rank reaver friend of mine.

But as Han Solo says "Dont get cocky, kid."

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Originally Posted by Stanimir

Thanks, it was definitely a fun one if not a bit one sided. Got a little cocky since I schooled a lower rank reaver friend of mine.

But as Han Solo says "Dont get cocky, kid."

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One-sided or not, no champ with CB up is a push-over.

Don't underestimate me next time. ;)

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice 2v4:
Garny, Brootgar, Lolien, Prometheus

Maybe next time. :cool:

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If I remember right, Lolien was afk when you two came and killed her lol

also, spell my name right pl0x. give me at least THAT much :P

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Originally Posted by lorddavy

If I remember right, Lolien was afk when you two came and killed her lol

also, spell my name right pl0x. give me at least THAT much :P

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Eh, AFK characters don't hit skills. Sorry if I spelled Prometheus wrong. I spelled it according to mythology.

If Lolien was AFK, thanks for the 2v3.

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Eh, AFK characters don't hit skills. Sorry if I spelled Prometheus wrong. I spelled it according to mythology.

If Lolien was AFK, thanks for the 2v3.

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Name filter ftl, son... *sniffles*

Had some good 1v1's with Langorian today. Thank you!

Thanks for the 1v1s Sidius super fun! Also thanks for backing off when you saw the burg.

Sorry the creepies showed up I didn't call them in hehe.


And welcome back Estellion! I don't know if you ever left but it's good to see you out there again!

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Originally Posted by marspidey

Had some good 1v1's with Langorian today. Thank you!

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Langorian's a pretty cool dude.

Nice 2v2 Forthfrith/Eoblod and Radarastiel/Elladril

Frankly, when I see DnD and SSD, it's just a matter of how long I live rather than will I win.



Nice 1v1 with Arachnafobia today. Seeing as we both died and I DN'd and Man Healed, I'd say he was the winner

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Originally Posted by PF-Grumpy

Nice 1v1 with Arachnafobia today. Seeing as we both died and I DN'd and Man Healed, I'd say he was the winner

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That was a fun fight. Thanks Eo.

Also got a nice fight with Arrival on the spider, we killed each other as well. The next two times he ambushed me though, and I just exploded. XD

@Dine

It's too bad we couldn't finish what could have been a good fight. Till next time!

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Originally Posted by Radardog

@Dine

It's too bad we couldn't finish what could have been a good fight. Till next time!

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Indeed -- looking forward to it.

Nice fight Wilandria, definitely kept me on my toes there, lol

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Originally Posted by Arvaen

That was a fun fight. Thanks Eo.

Also got a nice fight with Arrival on the spider, we killed each other as well. The next two times he ambushed me though, and I just exploded. XD

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Yeah great fights man.

Haha, Actually that first fight... I straight up LOST. IIRC Alaster killed you with like 106 morale left.

I'd had to say ambush was the key in those second fights. I seriously hate spiders. :)

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Dearest Aklionyu,

Thanks for the fight. It was my first offical solo 1 vs 1 on my warden and I really enjoyed the fight. A shame someone jumped in near the end, but I still wanted to give props. Thanks!

Nice fight yesterday Grouber & Coli (almost had you) - and Loogspewer.



I'd have to say that was some awesome 1v2+1, even if I threw down my headphones and rage-afk'd for 2 mins when I died. :P


Thanks for the action. :)

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Originally Posted by MMOFRPGP

even if I threw down my headphones and rage-afk'd for 2 mins when I died. :P

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That's hot :cool:

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Originally Posted by Gillianrial

That's hot :cool:

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So, you are into temper tantrums? *wiggles wargy eyebrows*

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Originally Posted by Aedon

So, you are into temper tantrums? *wiggles wargy eyebrows*

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He's like, the most calm person I know in the game.

I think nerdrage is funny. Especially my own :cool:

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Originally Posted by Obsidian-moth

Dearest Aklionyu,

Thanks for the fight. It was my first offical solo 1 vs 1 on my warden and I really enjoyed the fight. A shame someone jumped in near the end, but I still wanted to give props. Thanks!

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That was by far the best fight I've ever had. If it were not for the jump in, you would most certainly have won. Wow, what a fantastic fight, thank you very much!

Nice 1v1, Lenglamas -- you have some wicked crit rating.

I think DP buffs/DOF pots may have turned the tide for me, but who knows. Seeya next time. :D

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice 1v1, Lenglamas -- you have some wicked crit rating.

I think DP buffs/DOF pots may have turned the tide for me, but who knows. Seeya next time. :D

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Ditto Lenglamas! Seems the pots were barely enough :)

Nice 1v1s, Baskloin.

On a slightly related note, it'd be super if Turbine would reboot the servers. The hitching/lag is horrendous out there.

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice 1v1s, Baskloin.

On a slightly related note, it'd be super if Turbine would reboot the servers. The hitching/lag is horrendous out there.

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Thanks for the 1v1s as well Baskloin. You'll get me one day soon...

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Originally Posted by Baslin

Nice 1v1s, Baskloin.

On a slightly related note, it'd be super if Turbine would reboot the servers. The hitching/lag is horrendous out there.

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Thanks for the 1v1s as well Baskloin. You'll get me one day soon...

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Dineanddash. Good fights. Seemed while my CDs helps, sometimes if I got my movement spot on I could win without them. Very good and close fights. Soperstardestroyer............ ....

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>.>



Your right. I will get you one day.
If I have to follow you around all of....wait, you cant go anywere else besides Ettamoors. -_-

Well ill get you anyways. Also sorry if you didn't like me jumping you when you pulled the npcs from TR. It was WAY to tempting. Hope the drive-by pie attack when you went to do it again made up for it. And all else, great fight tonight (or this morning I should say?). All melee centric and fun. Peace out and keep creeping! (or I'd be no fun for me)

I had a fun fight with Necksnapper yesterday, excluding him running at 1K and coming back with full health, then having to use DR to beat me :P But i was somewhat buffed and had pots, so...

But thanks for the fight anyways, i rarely find high-ranked creeps that want to fight.

BTW: I want to fight Superstardestroyer someday too.

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Originally Posted by v_freak

Dineanddash. Good fights. Seemed while my CDs helps, sometimes if I got my movement spot on I could win without them. Very good and close fights.

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Yeah, it totally had to do with movement. I'm not sure if it's my ISP or Turbine (leaning toward Turbine), but I am getting incredibly bad hitches during fights lately. It has cost me fights and prevented me from dismounting running freeps multiple times.

/salute

You almost had SSD a few times, btw. :cool:

Seeya out there.