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- This quest chain was amazing. I just love to have a npc partner with quests and help to complee deeds.
- People should start to read the red advertisements (atleast once between 1-75).
- if something is not clear -> GIYF, wiki, forums
- You can still take the quests from "another" Andreg so ask a friend who still have it.
The rings are visible by some but its not 100% confirmedQuote:
Originally Posted by Laerien
I do read the red, but when I'm tired I tend to be a bit jumpy on the continue button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Laerien
Thanks for the final tip, gonna have to try that :D
I'm not rezally happy at the moment. It shouldn't be so complicated to get a quest to show up... especially when we had NO idea that it was even part of a deed until too late (at least in my case).. this is all new content so nothing to google and.. we can only go by what the ally adrig gives us and he never gave me "the hunting pack" (required quest for "tracking an old goat deed") yet everyone in my fellowship got it.. so it's obviously some random bug.
I'm really upset because I submitted a ticket and the GM was not willing to give it to me or even cancel so I could start over. Starting over in Trum Drenge worked and I'm sure it would work here too. There is obviously a random bug. Of course without the quest it is impossible to complete the deed "tracking an old goat".
My ally Adrig for Eyes in the Forrest apparently never had available the quest "hunting the pack" and of course I had no idea when I turned in dark and lonely forest that I was missing it since there were no available quests left for me to accept and all quests I had accepted had been turned in .. afterwards, I noticed the deed "tracking an old goat" and asked someone in my fellows what was "hunting the pack" and they told me adrig should have given it to me but he did not. I submitted a ticket to ingame support to ask for the quest but they would not give it to me..I even asked to have the original quests canceled and I could start over to fix this bug but they would not and suggested I submit a bug.
If someone official is reading this, please can you resolve this issue because otherwise I'll never have the deed and without the deed I'll never be able to complete everything in Isengard and that's really not fair since it is not my fault. Cancel everything in Gravenwood if you must and I'll start over. Something similar happened in Trum Drenge and cancelling the quest seemed to resolve that issue too. Thank you.. I hope that someone responds to me.
PS .. I was in a fellowship and did see the big white letters about huntng the pack but the quest never showed up and had no idea what the flash was or that a quest even existed.. this is all new content so not like I should be looking on google anyway.. but everyone in my fellowship did get it. I only know this because I asked about the deed after the whistle was turned in. I have submitted both a ticket and now even a bug report. I hope someone updates my deed by granting me the quest completed or just cancel the starting quest.. no idea cancel everything in Gravenwood, I'm ok with this because I want to finish everything in Isengard.
Might want to read the most recent posts. It's not a bug, it only concerns the Goat deed, and apparently you can get them (just ask someone who has the quest/hasn't finished it to let you talk to the npc after they summon him)Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwrei
Now I just receieved this disgusting lack of support response after a previous response statted that they investigated and everything works just fine and now I get this ..
To send feedback regarding the game or submit ideas that you would like to see implemented in the future, please visit http://www.turbine.com/support and click on the flag appropriate to the language you would like to provide feedback in. Then click the “Support Center” tab, followed by “Submit Feedback”. Although you may not receive a response due to the large volume of feedback we receive, all feedback is read and taken into consideration by the appropriate teams.
Dear Turbine, as a paying customer I'm kindly asking you to please cancel the original quests or even all of them in Gravenwood because now I can never get this deed due to some random bug.
I tried that already and could not even click on him, plus he had no ring on his head.. I even joined their fellowship. But this person had finished that particular quest. I guess I can try to see if it will work with someone who has not finished it. However, this is ridiculous.. it should not be so complicated and yes it is a random bug. LOTRO is intended for 12+ .. yet I'm an adult woman and I find this unsettling.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaMan
Read Berephon's post, it's not a bug or random. It's working as they intended it to. A few of us didn't think that was the best way to do it, but it's not a bug for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwrei
And yeah complicated, but best way would be to do the quests with someone who hasn't dont ANY of them at all. Join them when they get to the quest chain, and pick up the quests as they go in each area that you can find them.
It took me an hour and a half to finish this deed/unlock those dumb quests. Very poorly designed bit of the game.
Thanks for advice, I'll try that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaMan
PS Just tried it, went to the exact coordinates where he gives the quest 82.9S 13.9W .. and no ring, fellow cannot share and I cannot even click on him. :-( SO NO it does not work and yes it is bugged.
You're not trying to take the original quest (to GET the whistle) are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Norwrei
I think Laerian meant when the summoned npc can give a quest in gravenwood (in the middle of the orc area for example), that's where you can pick up the quests you dont have
I'm trying only to get "hunting the pack" so went to the location where he normally gives it but there was no ring for me.. I did not try where he is summoned. I cannot summon him since I turned in the whistle.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaMan
I did them all, mostly because I was looking for it due to kinmates warning me..sure there was a warning saying you would not be able to do anymore but unless you look at each deed that comes up you wouldn't have known there were more to do. In that sense I agree it wasn't very fair, and it was fairly annoying trying to find the locations, not Turbines best work for sure.
I have a deed that I can't do, not because I missed it per se (I did) but because I couldn't be bothered waiting for Turbine to fix it..if anyone remembers during Mirkwood landing there were 3 elves that needed rescuing and one of them broke. So I feel for people who can't do this one, it's annoying seeing deeds you can't complete on an otherwise blank page :(
Please fix this so we can finish deed
Come on people, the next thread in the forum complains about lack of variety in quests. Here Turbine implements a twist, and everybody complains about maybe 5000 XP and a virtue bringing you only more over the cap you already are.
When talk is about raiding, everyone says that raiders should get more content (AKA higher-quality loot) than non-raiders. Here is one(!) bonus for people who do not race through the quests to get to raiding and who, if necessary, confer with others if they don't understand something. And massive complaints start.
BTW, as far as I know you can close any quest window with its "x" icon in the top right and it will count as "Abort" independent of whether there is only a continue button or not,
I can understand the frustration in this, its not about the experience lost is about something you'll never get unless you start another char. To be fair there is not many red warnings so we are not get used to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilberting
I have a couple of characters with that "a pressing matter" letter they can't turn in, I still feel they are kinda bugged. Laerian for example has only the elven part of the prologe, later I released the dwarf part can be done before talking to Mathi in Gondamon. In this case is more "serious", is a deed not only a couple of missed quests.
I hope this can be solved in some way, I've heard some people can see the quest rings in other Andregs after they completed the main quest. The question is if they are able to take them.
Apart from the areas triggering the NPC to give the quests being a bit specific, I thought this was laid out well and certainly an improvement on the Annuminas version of it. The deed is a good way to keep track of things and if you pay attention to what is happening (deed notification, red warning text, etc) there's really no way to go wrong.
It's definately a bug and why cant a GM just cancel the quest so we can start it over? I'm a paying customer.. this is pathetic customer support. I'm only asking to cancel and let me do again.
PS Great questline and too bad that I cannot complete the deed due to some random bug which prevented me from accessing "hunting the pack". I think since it is not my fault customer should reset these quests or simply update it.
2 moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Fillur
Orc Mischief 81.6s, 12.4w
Lost Caws 82.8s, 13.9w
The xp and the one virtue do not bug me at all. There are plenty of quests on my characters that I have skipped throughout the story line, some that I have no interest at all in doing. But I do try to go back and clean up deeds and reputation as I get time. Having an open deed that I will NEVER BE ABLE TO FINISH... is really just all around fail. The whole thing stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilberting
Your post has been eating at me for awhile now, Berephon. You do realize that this game is about whatever I want it to be about, right? If I want to go around harvesting every node and slaying every Orc I see, who is to stop me? If I want to ignore the words in the quests and, to quote Aliens: "I only need to know one thing. Where they are..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
Who is going to stop me?
You don't dictate what I make out of this game, or what I think this game is all about. You have, however, junk-punched me in the pretense that MY favorite thing to do in Lotro is deed grind.
Crazy, I know.
So, I ask you, Berephon -- Knowing that you have dorked up this deed (and, honestly, there's no other way of saying it. You have WAY too many people shaking their fists at the Lotro Gods, screaming curses or silently weeping in a corner to claim otherwise), and knowing that you have efficiently created a deed (tethered to a virtue, mind you!) that cannot be completed unless you are a beta-tester or player who reads every quest and pays very astute attention to the NPC who only gives a quest predicated on a location which is tentative at best, how do you justify not addressing the issue being presented?
Do you sit back and pray that we'll get over the unfinished deed?
I think the person who posted above me said it best: I don't care about the virtue, all of my virtues are 15+. I don't care about the titles, and I don't care about the IXP or the XP.
I'm a deed farmer. You have officially created the 'unable to finish deed' -- Or, as I am henceforth going to dub it, until it is fixed: The Failtacular.
Now, to me, what makes this even worse is you had people submitting feedback in beta saying PUMP THE BRAKES on this idea. Obviously you did nothing with that feedback.
Now, I know I may seem bitter predicated on the fact that I cannot complete this deed, no matter what I do; but allow me to clarify one point, to those reading this post and to Berephon -- Even if I completed the deed, I would still be here, posting with the same emphasis on the fact that this concept is dumb.
Because a deed is something that should be allowed to be finished at any point during the game.
You don't want to kill 450 wargs? Don't.
You don't want to do all of the Dunland quests, and would rather get back to that deed after some PvMP time? Fine.
You don't want to farm virtue X to 18 by exploring Dunland? Okay, come back later.
You don't feel like partaking of the festival activities, and decide to wait until next year. Hey, no worries.
It's a rare event deed, Amarthiel is searching for Ring-Lore! Find more than her! Oh, and if you don't, that's okay, the deed will go away when the event ends.
You didn't trigger quest #4 on the Tracking the Old Goat deed because you got waylaid by an Orc or a node? Well, you obviously don't play this game as it's meant to be played. Furthermore, you don't read the quests, because it's perfectly clear how to approach this quest. The NPC gives you quests based on your location, and it's clearly spelled out in the text that he operates in this manner--nevermind that killing hound #3 doesn't trigger the coresponding quest!
/sarcasm off
Please don’t regret it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berephon
The problem is not the deed itself. When I did the quest in Annuminas, I found it frustrating that there was nothing listing how many quests were available (and there was no clear info where they were triggered and it was pretty bugged).
The problem is not the concept of the quest; it’s pretty cool to have something different.
The problem is not people reading or not reading the quest.
The problem IS that the main quest allows you to continue without completing all additional quests. The best solution would probably be (as already suggested) to make the objective of the main quest to require you to complete all other quests first, that is, “Do quests for Andreg (0/7)”. That way none could miss any quests, hence not miss the deed. And in fact, there would be no need to even have a deed to track the “hidden” quests.
Though, that solution does not apply to the current situation. For us that missed the deed, what others have mentioned are pretty much the options;
- either make us able to summon him at any time (at least until we have completed the deed, with the new technology it shouldn’t be too hard to hide him when done with the deed).
- or simply turn the quests into dailies.
To be honest, talking about Annuminas again, I actually thought it was bad you could never summon the NPC again after completing the main quest (even though that quests were not linked to a deed). Again, having the main quest to require you to complete all discoverables will solve all kind of “missed content”- issues related to these quests.
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Just a short story regarding my personal experience with this quest:
I got the main quest, summoned Andreg, he initially gave me 2 quests. I completed these quests and went to the Rohirrim camp. I got the message that I can’t summon him again if I continue, so I double checked if he had anything else to give me; he had not. As mentioned, I have been doing the quest in Annuminas, but there was really nothing indicating that this particular quest worked the same way. I had absolutely no idea that I could get these discoverable quests or that continuing the quest would break the deed, as I thought I'd get the remaining quests later.
Now stuck on the deed. And yes, I did read the quests.
Please fix this somehow, and learn the lesson for next time!
Regards,
Grimfrithgar
For those who suggested getting the quest from someone else's ally, that is not possible. I tried that too. Turbine simply needs to fix this. I want the quest and deed both. This is simply unfair. The response from customer support is unacceptable. I love the game, the content, etc and even this quest series. I just want them to fix it and soon. That's not too much to expect.
When you hover over the deed "Tracking and Old Goat" in the deed log it says "Saeradan, Amlan, and Andreg are searching..." So, like all of the other quests in RoI, I thought it would give me more quests from those people after I turned in this part of the chain with Andreg. This is very poorly designed in context of the way other quests are handed out here. The warning doesn't say anything about not getting more quests, it says it will cancel the ones you currently have from him and not be able to summon him again. How was I to know there were more from him waiting to be given based on location?
Man, I did those quests, and I always read quest text. I got 4/7 for the deed, I figured I'd get the other quests somewhere else, seeing as there were no more from the guy when I checked before I turned in the last one.. I hope they change it so we can go back and do them!
Very well put. I was annoyed when I first discovered this deed worked this way. My blood started to boil when I saw the dismissive blue post though, and I was shocked at the lack of concern that would be given for what turned into a 9 page (and growing) forum post. Look at the posts. Almost every single one is people complaining about it, the others are people that got lucky or had warnings about it and trying to give others a hard time. One of my greatest personal accomplishments in this game is working through all of my available deeds. I had loved RoI to this point, and have even described to my kin how I thought it was the best book so far. This is proving to be enough for me to consider putting it down and picking up another game though. I don't even care how it is fixed, but there is no question that it NEEDS to be fixed. If no other solution can be obtained, take the deed out of my deed log even, I'm fine with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCorbinator
Frodo has an incompletable deed in his deed log because he didn't follow the exact "bee-line path" that Gandalf's quest said in his Quest log.