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BEER is the answer!
Okay I wanted to get the answer in there and THEN explain it.
Stanza 1 - Mim's son Ibun, not Khim, but thanks for sending me the right direction Elvyen
Stanza 2 - Erech, the place where the actual oath of the Mountain King took place. Again, Elvyen sent me in the right direction here with mentioning Dwimorberg.
Stanza 3 - Grandfather would be Earendil (Grandsire, or Grandfather on the Father's side) OR Celeborn (Damsire, Grandfather on the Mother's side). When Womdon said both would work, I realized that it must be a letter association, which is how I figured out stanza 5.
Stanza 4 - I was right in guessing Nargothrond.
Stanza 5 is solved with letter association, so 1-2 is second letter of first word, B. 2-3 is E, 3-4 is E, and 4-8 is R,
BEER is a good bait for Womdon!. Okay I need time to get a good one going.
Very good one, by the way.
By George, I think he's got it! :D
Of course! It's not only the cause and solution to all of life's problems, but it also makes one heck of a Womdon-lure.
You know what this means don't you...? Now you owe me an oatmeal stout, edwin ;)
Named for a friend
Named for a foe
One was buried
where long grass grows
Named for a gift
Named for a hue
Bane of man and master
Does that give you a clue?
Named for the elements
Named for Anatomy
the Father of which
came from across the sea.
And it also started page 17 of this thread! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Womdon
Well the second stanza definitely sounds like Anglachel. In fact, the first one sounds a bit like it too, although I'm still thinking about the third one...
Off track I'm afraid, Womdon, although I'm very happy to have one that wasn't immediately figured out....yet.
No hints yet.
Okay I have to leave work in 1/2 an hour and probably won't be looking at the forums much this weekend (why surf the net when I could be playing the game?), so I'm throwing out an emergency hint:
If you figure one answer out, you have the whole answer. There are three "answers" per stanza.
Don't you worry, Edwin, I'll figure this one out by the time you get back to posting on Monday. Unless someone else gets it before me...
I'll certainly be impressed if you do. This one is completely beyond me; I don't have a clue--and I mean that literally. I don't see anything I can work with here. I'm not even sure what the hint means! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Womdon
I'm going to take a shot at this one. I tried thinking about "threes" and for a while was stuck on trying to make the three elven rings,the three houses of the edain, or the three families of elves work, but that didn't get me anywhere. Your hint suggested there are three answers as well as just one, and that there's three answers per stanza.Quote:
Originally Posted by edwinunger
Soooo... that leads me to think about three things that each have three names: Dwarvish, Elvish, and Common.
I'm not the greatest expert of lore, but I don't think there was an overabundance of things/people/places that were described in each of the three main languages. After rethinking that second stanza I came up with an answer that led me (hopefully) to the solution of the riddle.
The three mountains of Moria.
Celebdil / Zirakzigil / Silvertine
Caradhras / Baranzibar / Redhorn
Fanuidhol / Bundushathur / Cloudyhead
Redhorn seems to me to fit with named for hue and gift. Plus it defeated the fellowship so that could be "bane of man and master"
Cloudyhead certainly fits named for elements and anatomy, and its father was Morgoth.
Silvertine might fit friend and foe as silver was consistently portrayed as goodly or holy throughout Tolkein's writings and one of the meanings of "tine" is trouble and distress.
Not sure if the three mountains of Moria is the answer or not, but I gave it my best shot :cool:
Taking a break out from grinding for deeds to peak my head in at the riddle gears turning... And I have to say, I'm sorry. I think my "hint" do more to hinder than help. What I meant by "figure one out and you have the whole thing" is that if you could figure out the answer to just one of the lines, you'd know the whole answer. Each line is a different name for the same type of thing. If you can figure out the name of one of the "things" you'll know what the "thing" is and then know the answer. After this, all the other clues will fall into place. I said there are three asnwers per stanza because in a 4 line stanza, there are 3 clues, and when one of those is figured out, you'll know the whole thing. NOTE: Second stanza has, in fact, 4 answers, which is my next clue:
Second hint: Bane of Man and Bane of Master are two different entities.
And what the heck, a third hint (hope this one doesn't cause confusion): Bane of Man has the same name as a line in the third stanza.
EDIT: After closely reading your work, Womdon, I have to say, you are definitely a lore master of Middle Earth. As much of a stretch as your guess is, I could be made to believe it if I weren't the riddle giver. I am deeply impressed.
Hey everyone long time no eh? I told myself I couldn't post till I had a riddle... however I appear to have broken that thought.
Edwin, could your riddle be "The Bone Man"? For some reason I thought of that quest as I read the riddle; however that might be totally off and actually have something to do with the actual works of Tolkien.
Nope Bailo, it's not the Bone Man, it's found specifically in the books.
Think NAMES people.... that's the last clue I give before I give the answer on Monday.
Hey, guys! I'm back! I've been very busy for a long time, and haven't been able to find the time to check this thread. I'm still pretty busy, but I'm going to try to stick around to guess some riddles, even if I can't find time to write them.
I'm going to guess Snowmane for Edwinunger's riddle.
I'll go ahead and guess the answer is Gurthang, previously known as Anglachel.
Science(s)?
Disease(s)?
You've essentially got it, LastAlliance.Quote:
Originally Posted by lastalliance
Although the answer I was looking for was "horse." That's what all of the clues had in common: they all were the names of horses in Middle Earth. Let me break it down for you.
Named for a friend - Strider, the horse that Frodo rode home from Rivendell, named for his friend Aragorn.
Named for a foe - Bill the pony, named for Bill Ferny, a bad person.
One was buried
where long grass grows - This is Snowmane, the one that LastAlliance got right. He was Theoden's horse, and where he was buried, grass grew long and green.
Named for a gift - Roheryn means Horse of the Lady, a gift from Arwen to Aragorn
Named for a hue - Shadowfax, Gandalf's horse, means Shadowy grey coat. Also, Hasufel, Aragorn's loaner horse from Eomer, means Grey coat.
Bane of man and master - Bane of Man is Felarof, the horse that started the line of Mearas, the great horses. Bane of Master is Snowmane again, so called since he caused his master Theoden to be crushed underneath him during battle with the Witch King.
Named for the elements - Firefoot, Eomer's horse, and Windfola, Dernhelm/Eowyn's horse, and to a lesser extent, Lightfoot, father of Snowmane.
Named for Anatomy - All of the Hobbit ponies named by Tom Bombadil: Swish-tail, Wise-nose, Sharp-ears, and White-Socks.
the Father of which
came from across the sea - This is Felarof again, since it is believed that he came from the Undying lands with Orome and is the Father of all great horses.
So that's the end of my riddle. I should have made it less "out there," but it was certainly fun hearing all of your answers! Sorry if I ruined anyone's weekend or caused any sort of aneurisms. Your turn, Last Alliance.
Good riddle! Went completely over my head. :o
Ahhhh, horses. I agree, good riddle... just wish I would have gotten it!
Hey there LA, long time no see. Good catch, bigguy
wow that was really tough edwin, nice one
welcome back LA and Bailo!
now throw some riddles up here quick, get me through my monday:mad:
I think he said he doesn't have time to write any, just answer them. Just in case he can't (or while we're waiting), here's an extremely simple riddle that has nothing to do with Middle Earth. It's one of my favorites, but you've probably all heard it and have known the answer since grade school. :)
What can go up a chimney down,
But can't go down a chimney up?
I do remember that one... the riddle that is, unfortunately the answer is a bit fuzzy.
I think it was an umbrella though.
If that's right I'll see if I can work on a riddle this morning. My hide in plain sight skill only works as long as the boss has had fewer than 3 cups of coffee.
That's right! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Womdon