World Transfers

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Originally Posted by Aedelric2

It is kinda hard to choose a date when they haven’t fully defined the parameters that we have to work within. I understand that this process is experimental to some extent and will remain so until the end (which is why I was requesting “tentative” dates), but I would have thought that they would have already worked out most of the kinks when they were testing the transfers using Bullroarer. I would also expect Turbine to know the population of their own servers as well as how much of that population is “active”. All of that coupled with the fact they told us to pick a date, I don’t think asking for an estimated timeline is unreasonable.

1. Could we please get a more detailed but estimated timeline for transfers?
2. Will transfers for previous pairs of worlds still be functional after moving on to the next pair or will the transfers for the previous pair be suspended?

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Yeah and Turbine just announced just a bit ago that the next 2 servers won't be opening up this Monday and that we'll get info sometime next week about things. So, just wait and see. Just a tip from a guy who runs his own server box with servers that have had populations with several of 64 people all the way to 10 servers running with 200/200 people at the same time.

It takes time dealing with the kind of stuff Turbine is doing. New hardware (which isn't fully set yet) doesn't mean, "Oh, I can slap my game right on it and get my information for this game going in minutes!" No, it takes time and figuring out is this increase of CPU, RAM, Network Usage, etc. will work with how the game currently is? And games with information that is older and mixed with newer information makes this processing even harder!

Basically, a simple way to explain why this process takes so long is because of how you get the data to the server. Picture yourself as your character, carrying ALL of your items visibly exposed. Now you start moving forward to enter the door of the server (logging in), this door is small however and you have to wait as you move all your stuff through the door with some people losing some or all their items as has been the case. Now if you have this small door and 1,000 people wanting through the door at the same time, it all causes the process of getting through said door slower causing what players call "Lag" which is just data that is moving much slower compared to it's usual speed.

A good example of this is Mount and Blade: Warband: Napoleonic Wars. On Siege servers when the max amount of players allowed on 1 server is 200, when the map is first started, it could cause upwards of 5+ minutes of people sitting and wait for themselves to be fully loaded in. This in turn causes people to moan because of said wait, but it was the same across the board for anyone running that server type.

The longer Turbine takes, the better. As those people who will be at the end of this process (being people who return to the game and when ALL servers being closed finally do close forcing people to join a server) will have the easiest time with things as the months of data beforehand will yield the expected results intended all along. So sit tight, get comfy, especially if you are in the middle or bottom of the list of server transfer :D

Maybe am wrong, but if we can't transfer characters until next week doesn't that mean we will all have just 10 days to do it before they start charging for transfers again?

They've already stated that the Oct 1st date is no longer valid.

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Originally Posted by RJFerret

No, we can't. More specific than my prior reply which you quoted, but the same message, we now have this info substantiating it posted a couple hours ago:.

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Thank you for the link. I didn’t see it earlier. Sorry if I sounded impatient. In my defense, Frelorn’s post would probably have been better placed here or in a separate announcement. I have to commend the Turbine staff; they seem to be making more of an effort to keep us posted throughout this process than they have in the past.
I honestly have no concept of the intricacies involved in what Turbine is doing. I know it is not simple. When your home server is already desolate and it feels like we have been in limbo forever; it is enough to frustrate any player. Furthermore, when people are looking to you for information and you have none to give, it just makes it that much more frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Brenics

Maybe am wrong, but if we can't transfer characters until next week doesn't that mean we will all have just 10 days to do it before they start charging for transfers again?

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Transfers from closing worlds will always be free. :)

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Originally Posted by maartena

Did you happen to notice that the Palantir server was listed under the "COPY" section, not the "MOVE" section? ;)

Bullroarer and Palantir are copy only, they are used for beta testing. Bullroarer is for public testing, Palantir for private testing. I don't know why it shows up for everyone right now, as it is very confusing....

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I didn't, but thanks for clearing that up!

as I see it you can't allow massive transfers to a server with old hardware. Because you won't be able to play on overcrowded servers with terrific lags and rejected logins.

I have read and read and read alot, I broke down and cried a bit after such a long time of playing on and off.
Silverlode has been my home since this game started its sad to see it go.
*crosses fingers and hopes that in the end we get to stay and rebuild*

umm anyway I still don't get it.

What exactly will transfer with our characters when the time comes to move?
I have a lot of stuff in the bank in both Personal and Shared.
I see alot of people posting that the shared stuff will move with you but, what about the personal bank stuff?

Which are the US servers rating thingy (like RP, PVP) on these servers were suppose to move too?
You can't really expect us to move to a server blindly.


By the way Take your time the longer we stay in our home the better.

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Originally Posted by eprez12

What exactly will transfer with our characters when the time comes to move?
I have a lot of stuff in the bank in both Personal and Shared.
I see alot of people posting that the shared stuff will move with you but, what about the personal bank stuff?

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Personal stuff belongs to the character and moves with the character.

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Originally Posted by eprez12

Which are the US servers rating thingy (like RP, PVP) on these servers were suppose to move too?
You can't really expect us to move to a server blindly.

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RP rules don't change. So Landroval will stay the US Roleplaying Encouraged server. There is no official PvP server.

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Originally Posted by eprez12

I have a lot of stuff in the bank in both Personal and Shared.
I see a lot of people posting that the shared stuff will move with you but, what about the personal bank stuff?


By the way Take your time the longer we stay in our home the better.

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I agree that the longer the better,never wanted to move as
DD is the only server I've played on.Also with you on the bank
items as I have a massive amount of crafting supplies on a few
character banks as well as shared storage,and in the deluxe chest
in the house.I keep coming back to the forums to see if loosing
items is an issue or not,wondering if i'm supposed to screen shot
the storage to be sure I didn't loose anything in the transfer.Also
would be nice to see an estimate on the timeline for transfers.

For the life of me, I cannot remember what the devs said about transfers FROM Brandywine to the surviving worlds. Specifically, can anyone tell me if the same name change rules will apply if we transfer off of Brandywine?

In other words, will I get a free name change if my toon gets stuck with the -1? I'm just afraid that the free name changes are only for toons coming off of closing worlds.

Thanks for any advice!

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Originally Posted by sentinel1

For the life of me, I cannot remember what the devs said about transfers FROM Brandywine to the surviving worlds. Specifically, can anyone tell me if the same name change rules will apply if we transfer off of Brandywine?

In other words, will I get a free name change if my toon gets stuck with the -1? I'm just afraid that the free name changes are only for toons coming off of closing worlds.

Thanks for any advice!

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The same naming rules apply for transfers off any server. I already used the previous test round to rename one of my characters during a transfer from Landroval to Crickhollow.

Just got back from a business trip and was planning on transferring my Elendilmir characters to a new server. When I hit the Transfer button, the three Select Servers available are Brandywine, Firefoot, and Withywindle (which I have no characters on) but no Elendilmir option.

Have I missed the boat? Any way to fix it?

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Originally Posted by mikalar

Just got back from a business trip and was planning on transferring my Elendilmir characters to a new server. When I hit the Transfer button, the three Select Servers available are Brandywine, Firefoot, and Withywindle (which I have no characters on) but no Elendilmir option.

Have I missed the boat? Any way to fix it?

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Hi, Mikalar. Elian and I transferred our accounts on Thursday
with not much trouble. My guess is that transfers are down
for the weekend; try again Monday.

As I understand it, Elendilmir will be open until New Year's,
and even after that, though it won't be open for play, you'll
be able to transfer your characters (and all their gear) till
the game ends.

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Originally Posted by mikalar

Just got back from a business trip and was planning on transferring my Elendilmir characters to a new server. When I hit the Transfer button, the three Select Servers available are Brandywine, Firefoot, and Withywindle (which I have no characters on) but no Elendilmir option.

Have I missed the boat? Any way to fix it?

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You should never miss the boat. Once your server is selected for transfer (which is the case with Elendilmir), you should always be able to tranfer characters from it. Your other servers are currently only available for copy to Palantir, which is really confusing to most people.

Are you on the right account?

Also, if you ever had a toon on Withywindle, but deleted it, there may be a few shared items left behind, such as some things in your shared wallet or something, a brand new toon always seems to get those 5 tokens when you complete the first quest or so after the intro.

Castorix says that XML files aren't the same anymore. Basically, things have been reversed since the week-end started and we can't transfer anymore... which is a little troublesome for players who can play only on weekend (students, ...)

I may have missed an update on House Transfers. Hopefully one of the regular posters knows the answer.

I play on 6 US based worlds with houses on each. With the consolidation down to 5 US worlds, I will have one world that will have to pair with another.

Having already moved from Elendilmir, I understand the basic move process.

However with consolidating two worlds into one, how will I recover excess Mithril Coins used to upgrade housing storage if I'm restricted to only one house.

Example:

World 1 - Being shut down - own Deluxe House - 300 Mithril coins spent to upgrade storage chest
World 2 - Being shut down - own Deluxe House - 300 Mithril coins spent to upgrade storage chest
World 3 - Surviving server - no house - Transfer Worlds 1 and 2 to World 3

Per game rules only one house (Standard/Deluxe) per account on each server. So only one previous house owner can buy a replacement Deluxe House. The second owner will presumably recoup the cost of the old house. However, what happens to the excess Mithril Coins after housing storage is maxed out?

Or has Turbine relaxed the home ownership rules due to the consolidation and anyone with world transfer home credits can buy a replacement?

Say Turbine,how exactly are you monitoring the transfers?As I'm writing this I am getting a Server Full message while trying to connect to Landroval.Whatever monitoring you are doing it is pretty bad and I am sorry I have to come off as a meanie or whatever.

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Originally Posted by mikalar

Just got back from a business trip and was planning on transferring my Elendilmir characters to a new server. When I hit the Transfer button, the three Select Servers available are Brandywine, Firefoot, and Withywindle (which I have no characters on) but no Elendilmir option.

Have I missed the boat? Any way to fix it?

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I transferred from Elendilmir on Friday night, no problems.

Im part of riddermark and am trying to transfer over to another world but the only world thats available is Palantir, But when I looked to sign back into this world it wasnt an option.:confused:

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Originally Posted by Gardhik

Castorix says that XML files aren't the same anymore. Basically, things have been reversed since the week-end started and we can't transfer anymore... which is a little troublesome for players who can play only on weekend (students, ...)

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Castroix is correct. I believe Frelorn said that they're doing some internal work, which is why Palantir showed up; and this has effectively turned the transfers off. I confirmed that Elendilmir is not up for transfers for me. Unless QA checks in during the weekend, it may be like this until Monday.

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Originally Posted by Dusalan

I may have missed an update on House Transfers. Hopefully one of the regular posters knows the answer.

I play on 6 US based worlds with houses on each. With the consolidation down to 5 US worlds, I will have one world that will have to pair with another.

Having already moved from Elendilmir, I understand the basic move process.

However with consolidating two worlds into one, how will I recover excess Mithril Coins used to upgrade housing storage if I'm restricted to only one house.

Example:

World 1 - Being shut down - own Deluxe House - 300 Mithril coins spent to upgrade storage chest
World 2 - Being shut down - own Deluxe House - 300 Mithril coins spent to upgrade storage chest
World 3 - Surviving server - no house - Transfer Worlds 1 and 2 to World 3

Per game rules only one house (Standard/Deluxe) per account on each server. So only one previous house owner can buy a replacement Deluxe House. The second owner will presumably recoup the cost of the old house. However, what happens to the excess Mithril Coins after housing storage is maxed out?

Or has Turbine relaxed the home ownership rules due to the consolidation and anyone with world transfer home credits can buy a replacement?

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I do not recall, during the beta round a few weeks ago, them changing the one house per account rule. What I do remember is that things you unlocked with points or Mithril coins gets credited. I don't recall losing any unlocks that I did using the beta coins that you could get after making a live copy then doing the test server transfer process.

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Originally Posted by gracewolf

Im part of riddermark and am trying to transfer over to another world but the only world thats available is Palantir, But when I looked to sign back into this world it wasnt an option.:confused:

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Because only Elemdir (spelling_ anmd estel are available to transfer at this time

Here is a potential scenario I haven't read about.

My main is named Wulfgrim. A popular name as it was not available on any of the 5 remaining NA servers.
OK so my destination server is Landy once tranfers are open for my Ridermark server.
Last week the character named Wulfgrim from Elendilmir chose to transfer to Landy and arrived with the name Wulfgim~1.
A heartbroken Elendilmir Wulgrim~1 goes to seek counseling and neglects to change to a new name until he has had professional guidance.
So my turn at the transfers comes and BAZINGA Wulfgrim and Wulfgrim~1 exist on Landy...
As a former programmer/analyst I would simply increment a variable and rename to Wulfgrim~2 and then I would go seek my own counseling.

So my question... since there is a very real possibility for multiples of the more popular names transferring to the same server will my beloved Wulfgrim not only lose his name but also "blow up real good" upon arrival?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHkvD7-u7y8

So people on Landy are now getting the server is full message when logging in and I assume that is just going to get worse. Have there been any updates on when these so called server upgrades are going to take place? Will be there any caps on transferring more people until that happens? They really went about this backwards.