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Has any one finished this deed ? If you have can you confirm that the kill deeds unlock rulers of the dead.I have been running the barrow downs skirm none stop since I figured out how to do it in early march.I have completed 7 out of the 8 parts with only rulers and kill deeds unfinished.The idea of killing 15000 regular mobs and 1500 bosses is not appealing.
Well either no one has tried this deed or they just arnt talking.So with that ill put down what I know.
Surviving the night is the deed name that gives the title surviving the barrow downs .This deed is made up of 8 parts
Each one of the following deeds needs to be done in a 3,6 and 12 man skirmish
1.Strength of endurance - Survive in the barrow downs for 30 minutes
2.Pride of endurance - Survive in the barrow downs for 30 minutes 5 times
3.Unvanquished - Survive the barrow downs for 30 minutes with out any defeats
4 Mercy of the free people - Survive the BD for 30 minutes with out defeating any lieutenants
5 Defeating the dead - Kill 250 mobs in 1 skirmish session in the Barrow downs
6 Rulers of the dead - Unknown at this time might be linked to the kill deeds bellow
7 Simple skill - Survive for 30 minutes With out completing any named fellowship maneuvers
8 Strength in diversity - Survive for 30 minutes with no duplicate classes in the group
There are also kill deeds that are associated with this skirmish.Like all deeds in the barrows these need to me completed in a 3,6 and 12 man versoins.
Tier 1
Foe of the darklord-kill 25 lieutenants
Foe of the dead - Kill 100 mobs in the barrows skirmish
Tier 2
Assailant of the darklord - Kill 100 lieutenants
Assaliant of the dead - Kill 750 mobs in the barrows skirmish
Tier 3
Adversary of the darklord - Kill 500 lieutenants
Adversary of the dead - kill 5000 mobs in the barrows skirmish
Tier 4
Bane of the darklord - Kill 1000 lieutenants
Bane of the dead - kill 10000 Mobs in the barrows skirm
There is also a deed that seems to not be associated with the others
1 Weathering the storm - survive for 30 minutes in a level 70 BD skirmish
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...nShot00004.jpg
You managed to survive 30 minutes without killing any lieutenants? How?
That one alone makes this very, ummm, ettenmoores, like.
seriously.
So ridiculous...
It's not so bad once you actually start going for it. I never did much BD until this past week, and I already have several of the "Surviving the Night" deeds done myself. Some of them are definitely pretty crazy, but basically involve going in with the right mindset and maybe at times getting a little bit of luck..
No thanks, I'm a total deedoholic and I haven't run any skirmishes for months. Those deeds can go on the pile with the Ettenmoors ones...
Seriously, how did you complete Mercy of the Free people? (Survive 30 min without killing any leuitenants) Especially if you have certain ones.
I can't imagine anyone doing this properly.
p.s. how do you play without any icons on your bars? :P
At first I would have called you crazy but i recently joined a new kin and we have been going for this deed its honestly not that bad imoQuote:
Originally Posted by ShatterLSS
That is the only hard one it takes a combination of luck, lots of heals, and an off tankQuote:
Originally Posted by nikito
Btw just get a waden to kite tank it literally becomes just like taking a walk. A captain with the DN set for rallying cry also helps
any insights on how to take out 250 mobs in a run? especially small fellowship? the point of overwhelming seems to hit about 25 minutes in (something different happens there on the mobs grow in power reset) -- but the mob kills don't seem to be enough...would love any hints you have.
Are you using a warden to kite everything? Honestly I did small fellow champ capt warden and we killed 250 and went "WHAT! Already? okay that works" lol Pets were warrior sage herbalistQuote:
Originally Posted by twittfounder
negative on the warden -- guard and rk's, soldiers are two warriors and an herbalist i think. not a bad combination give the rk's abilities to move (and both heal and dps). might have been a bad combination of lt's, i think we got a couple of defenders of the vile, which NORMALLY, aren't a problem, but when trying to get to 250, seem...daunting.
that and the, oh so many mobs and lt's to kill :(
will do some experimenting on the rulers of the dead missing piece...have a couple of things i want to test (25 lt's in one run), doing it tier 3. if i discover anything, i'll let you know :)
I just thought of something that really bugs me. How are you supposed to do strength in diversity in a raid? Do you have to 9 man it or just have no duplicates in the same group?
It changes to where you have to have all 9 classes in the game in your raid. Duplicates are fine since there's 9 classes and 12 spots in the raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by whatever76543
Oh, hmm.. we just did it with 9! Good to know that you can have duplicates. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by IMAWIN
Im glad to see there is still intrest in this.Im sure some one out there has finished the 3rd teir in the kill deed.I know there are some hardcore people out there :) Im almost done with small fellow and I only run this once a day .The kill deed as stated earler is not as hard as it seems.Small fellow seems to be the hardest depending on the classes involved.If you kill every LT that comes your way and alot of the adds you will hit the mark at around 40-45 minutes in a fellow its 38-43 and in a 12 man its around 35.The larger the group size the more the LTs count towards kills.The only other hint I have for people trying this is [Sh Fi] [Sh SP] QRE [Fi Sh].
Sorry for the noob question, but what does this mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by NORINRAD
its warden speak for one of their gambits. I can't keep the straight without my cheat sheet, but assume its one of their cool skills, probably one that drains mob health and heals the player.Quote:
Originally Posted by phillbvi2
We are done with all deeds but killing 250 (all on sizes). and of course no rulers of the dead yet.
Anyone else on Brandywine want to work on the barrow deeds? have a few in kin up to the same point as me. just need a couple more for the fellow and raids.
Waden speech play a waden or you will never understandQuote:
Originally Posted by phillbvi2
More like the group HoT that makes the entirety of this deed completableQuote:
Originally Posted by forusrname
That is how Wardens use [skill]Conviction[/skill] while kiting and not needing to actually hit a mob. It is a threat leech and a nice group HoT when traited, ~155 morale every 3s for 18s.Quote:
Originally Posted by phillbvi2
I was doing some of those last night on my warden with fellrotten and we were working out the best way to do it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORINRAD
It seems the best way to complete them all is to do it in two stages;
Stage One; Get the 'once off' out of way;
Take Wrd, LM, yourself (if you are one of the first two, then pick another class) as your core group, do 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 and 8. Take minstrel, RK and whoever for fellowship (ensure it is filled so 8 will be ticked). Raid, ensure you have all classes.
Just have the warden kite for 30 minutes, LM stun immunity spam and lay tar and rest laze around. Herbalists would help here. CC classes (LM, Burg, Hunter) can help with mezzing some Lieutenants in small fellow. To entertain the bored people, they can kill non-Lieutenants if they want to.
You would then complete 1, 3, 4, 7, 8 in one go. Then just leave or die, up to you.
Stage Two; Kill Kill Kill
Since you have done all the one offs, you can focus on dpsing and killing all mobs for a hour, to do 5 and 6.
Small fellow is easy enough with Warden or captain (cos either can heal themselves and raid) and dpses (one maxed word of healing herbalist would be enough, rest dps soldiers)
Fellowship: Same as below but with trimmed class of course (only need Wrd/Lm/Mins, and 3 DPS)
Raid; Warden, LM, two healers (Minstrel or healing RK), 4 herbalists. 1 Main tank (either guard or champion), 7 dps traited line (burgs, hunters, champions, RK, captain). Have 8 warriors or archers.
Warden do the kiting with conviction spam, with minstrel and RK healing. 4 herbalists heals the whole raid using Ultimate Word of Healing. LM stun immunize the warden plus lay tar and debuffs etc.
Main tank pulls one mob off the warden at a time, every DPS class direct their soldiers to attack the MT'st target. Of course target the most dangerous LT first.
This kind of set up would allow you to take control of the instance, nuking each mob asap therefore rank up 250+ kills in one session of one hour, starting from the beginning and you should be able to breeze through 5000 kills tier 3 under 20 runs.
Also if you really want to... you could set the level at 57 so you can just tear through the mobs as 57 is still green and therefore counts at the cost of skirmish marks.
Right, once you get the one-offs out of the way, you can concentrate on killing killing killing.
You can use FMs, you can kill LTs, you can do anything you want to get as many kills towards slayer deed and try to get 250 kills in one session.
So for the first part, everyone should have a Herbalist. Then for the second part, everyone should have DPS soldiers...
This skirmish makes me so bitter. Having a warden run in circles for half an hour is almost as dumb as the stealth exploit they fixed. Whoever designed a skirmish where the ultimate goal is for your heroes to get defeated, and then put in deeds that encourage taking advantage of the stupid AI by playing carousel... well, they ought to have their primary gender characteristics ruptured.
On the other hand, I feel like I should try to get past the sour feelings and give it another chance, so thanks at least for putting together some tips on how to git-er-dun.
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Originally Posted by duvelmoortgat
Well said. This is basically what we did for the once-off's. I am glad we got all of them done.
Now we are on the fun part.
Tough finding a steady group for it on Brandywine. (and tough finding a good warden that will join the fun)
QFT. I especially dislike the "no FMs" part of the deed, which is specifically designed to hurt certain classes. But the entire skirmish seems to be crafted in such a way as to require a Warden regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by MysterX
I've been trying to think about why this skirmish in particular gets under my skin so much. I like the other ones, stuff like the Defense of Thangulhad feels heroic and appropriate, waiting do die in an area that a chicken can carefully run through just doesn't seem right.
The mental image I came up with is something similar to this visual aid:
I want my character to be a part of Epic Battle Scenes
not the Benny Hill show
Seriously, someone should fraps that "deed-worthy" BD skirmish and put the yakkity sax music on top of it.
Guys and girls.
I made a guide to 60-minute BD skirm over here ---> http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=341330
We know. We've been posting over there.....
ANYWAY
At 30 minutes on a small fellowship barrow downs skirmish you will have 6 LTs
Just FYI if you're going for the no LT kills deed
Did the raid version this evening for the full hour. Completed the 30 min. deeds for raid except Mercy of the Freeps cuz we killed a Rage of Morgoth. In the end, the regular skirimish marks plus deed completion resulted in over 2500 skirmish marks.
What is Ruler of the Dead???
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2...nshot00037.jpg
Completing deeds gives a lot of skirmish marks once you finish the miniature meta-deeds for that particular accomplishment on all levels:
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6...nshot00039.jpg
The similar one for Simple Skill (no FM) only gives 75 skirmish marks.
The similar one for Strength in Diversity (no duplicate classes, or perhaps more accurate, full group with all classes [as much as said group can hold]) only gives 150 skirmish marks.
Strength of Endurance 150 skirmish marks too.
Unvanquished 120 skirmish marks.
Weathering the Storm (level 70) is 200 skirmish marks:
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/6...nshot00041.jpg
I guess the Mercy of the Freeps might yield the most skirmish marks because it definitely is the most challenging, especially at the raid level. (EDIT: Only GIVES 100 SKIRMISH MARKS WHEN NOT KILLING LTs FOR 30MIN. AT ALL SIZES)
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/533...shot00045o.jpg
So the first time you finish all those, the skirmish marks add up. Without finishing those deeds, a full hour at the raid level would yield about 1800 skirmish marks I believe.
Defeating the Dead: We know what that is per the first post in this thread. Defeated 50, 100, and 250 mobs in one skirmish session at the small fellowship, fellowship, and raid levels.
What is unclear is the Rulers of the Dead. It has to be meta from ALL the slayer deeds.
From the first post:
So in your deed log if you see 'Foe of...' that means you are on the FIRST TIER of that slayer deed of small fellowship, fellowship, or raid. If you see 'Assailant of...' you are on the second tier of slayer deeds. And ditto with 'adversary of...'Quote:
Originally Posted by NORINRAD
At all times, you should have 6 deeds below Survivor of the night that begin with either of the above quotations...
In order to finish Survivor of the Night, you must finish Rulers of the Dead which must mean defeating 5775 mobs and 625 LTs on all levels: small fellowship, fellowship, and raid.
whew
I dont know if anyone mentioned this...
But the deed thats "do not do any fellowship move" does NOT fail if you do a CJ. Only a NAMED CJ (which is a fellowship move) fails.
Tested and confirmed by myself, Mr. G, and fell.
Spell my name properly will ya! And where have you been!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikito
Fixed Geronimo.. I mean, Geriactric... I mean, G-Money... I mean... Mr. G.Quote:
Originally Posted by duvelmoortgat
Mr. G will have to do.
p.s. Florida! :D
Just giving people a heads up that might be working on this deed.I have updated the kill deeds to show the new level.:(
Tier 1
Foe of the darklord-kill 25 lieutenants
Foe of the dead - Kill 100 mobs in the barrows skirmish
Tier 2
Assailant of the darklord - Kill 100 lieutenants
Assaliant of the dead - Kill 750 mobs in the barrows skirmish
Tier 3
Adversary of the darklord - Kill 500 lieutenants
Adversary of the dead - kill 5000 mobs in the barrows skirmish
Tier 4
Bane of the darklord - Kill 1000 lieutenants
Bane of the dead - kill 10000 Mobs in the barrows skirm
This kinda sucks.Would be nice if some one could tell me if this deed is even something you can complete or does it just keep going.
wow.......
Thanks for the info, Norinrad. I'm about halfway through Tier 3 on fellowship, but I haven't had a chance to run BD more than a couple of times this month. It's disappointing to see that there is a 4th Tier, but only because this is across all three sizes for the skirmish. I can't imagine ever completing that on the Raid difficulty.
Bumping this to find out if anyone has completed this yet? Norinrad, how goes the fight? You are amazing for doing as much as you have done on this.... How's Tier 4 going?
OH DEAR GOD. There is a tier FOUR for the slayer deeds? And *still* no news on rulers of the dead? Egads. I just showed a new group this and -- as always -- a riot. But, the news of tier four is even more daunting. I just don't think i can bring myself to do it.
Yeah, I think the Devs are playing a cruel joke on completionists! :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by twittfounder
I'd guess, given the 4 Tiers of the Reputation system, that hopefully there are only 4 Tiers of these slayer deeds? Not that they are directly related, but just hoping.... Maybe there is a Hidden Deed that completes and you get "Rulers of the Dead" once done with Tier 4?
I'm on the second tier of slayers (Assailant of....) for all sizes.
I finished the 'Defeating the Dead - Raid' the other day randomly. The raid had a lot of hunters.
JUST NOW finished 'Defeating the Dead - Fellowship' with a warden and 4 hunters (I'm a LM).
So Just have Defeating the Dead - Small fellowship left and I have no clue how to accomplish that!
After that, just the 4 (hopefully) tiers of slayers left. Wish everyone in this thread was on the same server for some lvl 57 Barrow Downs Survival killing spree!
I have no other deeds in the game so any Landrovalians, PST! :)
Here are the Rulers of the dead deeds in the lorebook:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Speci...c=&minl=&maxl=
"Objective: Find Defeat twenty Lieutenants in one Skirmish session"
The requirement is to kill 20 lieutenants in a single session, for small fellow, fellow, raid.
I know I've done that, but the deed remains invisible and untriggered.
I think these deeds are bugged and incompletable at this time.
That means you can't complete "surviving the night" deed either.
Also, there are no deeds beyond "bane of the dead" or "bane of the lieutenant" in the lorebook (tier 4).
On Elendemir a bunch of us are on bane for lieutenants, but further behind on the deed for killing mobs.
AHA! At least that is a breakthrough. The catch is, is it *possible* to defeat 20 LT's in one skirmish setting. The first LT doesn't start until 5 minutes, and even if you killed them all, i'm not convinced 20 will SPAWN in an hour.
Does the deed accellerator work? That would speed it up if it did...but boo. Also boo for it working at 57 for deeds (if that works). I don't mind *insane* deeds (and this one is -- well -- insane)...
Correct me if I'm wrong; but I believe anyone who is interested in these deeds is probably a completionist and does not believe nor agree with deed accelerators...Quote:
Originally Posted by twittfounder
We killed 37 lieutenants in a 6 man level 65 survival skirmish last night.
Didn't open the deed for rulers of the dead.
Think it's just bugged.
Will try to kill more than 20 in both 3 man and 12 next, shouldn't be a problem
Finished Bane of the Dark Lord (raid), which requires you to kill 1000 lieutenants.
There's no tier beyond this. Need to kill 9500 more mobs to finish Bane of the Dead (raid).
Further behind in Small Fellow & Fellow deeds. Two others are about where I am.
I filed a bug detailing how Surviving the Night is not completable, because rulers of the dead is not completable.
Holy samolians! You are a trooper! Congrats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-Wah
Gratz!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben-Wah
I'm chasing the 'Defeating the Dead - Small Fellowship' in order to finish the meta Defeating the Dead, then I will start working on slayers....
I'm just on tier 2 on all sizes. Just about even on everything....
So is the Surviving the Night not inclusive of the 4 tiers of slayers?
no it isn't, see post #41Quote:
Originally Posted by soccercake7
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...20#post5147820
Yay! Rulers of the Dead is fixed. They didn't express this in any notes but killing 20 LTs in one run is now up and running.
It's staged like Defeating the Dead with 5, 10, then 20 LTs.....
I just finished Rulers of the dead deeds for 3,6 and 12 man...
which gave me the surviving the night meta deed complete.
Still have bane of dark lord 3/6/12 to do, which requires you to kill 10,000 mobs.
Not really trying to get it done, just too far to go to bother. 3 man in particular would take ages
What lvl do you unlock the survivel: barrow downs?
Level 45.Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelBlack
Wish the slayer deeds had rewards that made more sense....
80 SMs for completing tier3 raid slayer tier? It's like a slap!
Does anyone know any good trick how to kill 250 mobs in Small fellowship run? if we kill only LTs we manage to kill about 30-35 of them. If we kill only regular mobs we manage to get about 150 until the end. 250 seems so impossible in 3men group.
You need to kill as many as possible as early as possible while they have lower morale. Run very DPS heavy, taking Herbalists as soldiers ideally. Really push it for the first 20mins. You'll need either a WDN or a CPT to kite later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinnegan_EU
As a MNS I suggest you go in red traits with a WDN and a CMP if you can. DPS as much as you can, dropping to heals only when you get a nasty selection of Lts or too much damage. A WDN with 5 blue, capstone and the ability to spam Conviction on the run makes life about 1000 times easier. A CPT can also do it, but in my experience have to be *really* good to keep aggro from a top-rank Herbalist or a CMP doing as much AoE as you'll want them to do.
Lts count for several kills towards the 250 btw, I think they count as 5.
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Originally Posted by Tarmas_Eldar
wow, didnt knew that.
time to get more bds runs goin ... kinda lack of grps latley (at least on snowy)
Anyone completed this in last months? :)
Question: the lvl70 extra deed, how does it work now with different lvl cap? You have to do it precisely at 70?
Bumping this thread to verify that the meta deed (and therefore all the associated deeds) are indeed working. Over the past month or so, I've started, worked on, and completed this deed.
Anyone know any way of getting the Weathering The Storm deed? Originally, it worked at 65 level-cap (when Skirmishes were created) when you were able to start up skirmishes ABOVE the level cap, if I remember correctly. So you had to run the Survival Raid at level 70, which was levelcap+5. We are no longer able to create a Skirmish instance above our level cap.
I've been meaning to test and see if this deed can be completed by running it at level 70 with a level 65 character still, in case it's static at those levels. I've also been meaning to run it at level 70 with my capped 95 to test that as well.
Thanks,
Radian
P.S. All these deeds are very easy now because we are so OP. Even the "kill 250 mobs" one at Small Fellowship, which I know gave some classes some issues. Fellrotten - look me up next time your on and we'll run it!
Yay for the bump of a 4 year old thread! Seriously, how do you find people to help you with this?
I suggest this in my Kinship, and everyone groans and moans. I even posted something in the Suggestion forum about adding more rewards to Barrow-Downs Survival to make more people interested in going and doing it. Please post your comments to that here: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Downs-Survival!
Beg! Beg, oh and beg. Although I have to say that strangely enough on Landroval there are enough random people that want to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloudie-wan
Radian, Only took me 3 years and 3 months to finally do this last part!Quote:
Originally Posted by soccercake7
Thanks for your help! ha!
My pleasure! Was quite a night.... we got your Surviving the Night deed done AND got you a shiny new helmet from Ivar!Quote:
Originally Posted by soccercake7
I was with a group of three people. I had a mini, GRD, and a LM. The mini basically healed only when necessary. Otherwise, he just stood there. The LM sort of did a little fighting, but more or less was a battery for power for both the mini and guardian. The guardian just focuses on slicing everything up.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikito
When a LT would enter, The LM stunned it. Basically there isn't an issue until the third one pops. We had the mini keep fearing it. Basically, what it came down to in the end was the LM kiting the ones that weren't stunned. I think we had 4 and somebody's soldier got a 5th one we didn't know about and it killed LT and screwed us up.
That was a couple of years now, I'd like to try at the LV 70 one.
can anyone tell me if in 2022 the deeds can still be progressed? does it need to be level cap? or can it be below lvl?
The deeds can still be progressed. A few months back we tried to organise a group to do it regularly to finish the few remaining parts of the deed we had left. Sadly we only ran it half a dozen times before the group fell apart though a mix of rl and other stuff. But yes If you can find a group to run it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vannoppenhunter
Bit of a necro, but I've noticed that the "Weathering the Storm" deeds are progressing now if you set the skirm to level 140. In case there are fellow completionists out there. :)