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Whos the best at their class?!?!
Forums are quiet ... too quiet
Pick who you think is the best at their class overall creep and freep
Oh and you cant pick your-self :P
Burglar:Goverment
Captain: Lithium
Champion: Xenephobe
Guardian: Whillyphant
Hunter: Denograth/snowlock
Lore-master: Frizle
Minstrel: Megus
Rune-keeper: Askir
Warden: What wardens? idk Ethenticals(sp?)
Creeps
Weaver: Fhangs
Reaver: Swordmoney/Polarbash
Stalker: Yella/Flankrat
Blackarrow: Arrowz
Defiller: Oskir/Smegg
War-leader: Shakanos
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Re: Whos the best at their class?!?!
Title of the thread should just be "Name all your friends" not that you did... but that's what it will turn into...
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This is simply ridiculous. There is no BEST. Everyone has their own play style. This kind of topic is only introduced to cause conflict. Please go troll somewhere else. Thank you.
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Burglar: Hadwise/Scret
Captain: Troi/Holy
Champion: Xene/Dahhu
Guardian: Whillyphant
Hunter: Snow
Lore-master: Frizle/Arestor
Minstrel: Megus/Cwendia
Rune-keeper: Cannotthinkofnames/Askir
Warden: Wishbone/Runik
Creeps
Weaver: Lhegs
Reaver: Swordmoney
Stalker: Playful
Blackarrow: Arrowz
Defiller: Oskir
War-leader: Pitt
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Originally Posted by
Warriorpoetex75
This is simply ridiculous. There is no BEST. Everyone has their own play style. This kind of topic is only introduced to cause conflict. Please go troll somewhere else. Thank you.
Might have been badly worded, but who do you think overall as in all playstyles your opinion this isn't if your not named your a horrible player
I introduced the topic because I've seen it on other server pvmp forums and thought it might bring a little fun to the Gratz threads list that this forum section has become
If you have a problem with it don't post it's all in fun
Please go troll somewhere else
~Shananigans
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Re: Whos the best at their class?!?!
Lots of friend naming/people you play with naming so far...
anyways
CURRENT PLAYING ON A CONSITANT BASIS
Megus
Snow
frizle
ashen
askir
No Cap/burg/warden/champ that I consider good enough to name "the best" at the current time
Rash
Paracedic---BURG SQUAD TAKES CREDIT FOR MAKING U BETTER
EZluk/pitts
Glordoom
No Reaver or Warg I consider good enough to name "the best" at the current time
ALL TIME LIST----people I have played with/against for larger amounts of time considered
Megus/falrendir
Snow
Frizle
ashen
askir
sandbagger
wishbone
holy/troi
Cramer
Breakmeh
Webspittle
blackhate
ernik/guy who transfered who I forgot the name of
Playful---skaithe for raids
Oskir
FUTURE EDITS WHEN I REMEMBER NAMES
Ok since flank made a 1v1 list I figured I will as well. THESE ARE ONLY PEOPLE I HAVE PERSONALLY FOUGHT
Minstrel- Falrendir
Champ- Cramer...Turine is now prob the only good 1v1 champ on server (sometimes at least)
Lm- Frizle/tinechor
Burg- Sandbagger--- Wrecked on burg (didn't ever actually fight him...just got ganked by him) governemnt is the only one I've had a competitive 1v1 with recently on reaver so props for that!
Guard- Grass---was always able to give me a crazy competitive fight on reaver pre SoM
Cap- Never got the chance to 1v1 a captain I thought was great
Hnt- Glorduin I guess...never had a 1v1 with a competitive hnt...he was the only who had good moves
RK - Askir---It is obvious why ------Also Anc back when He played...could never beat his RK....I think ruull is pretty good as well
Warden- Wishbone
BA- I've fought rash and he did decent...and I fought arrowzs and he did good but makes a bunch of silly rules to make it so he can win...No outstanding ba I've fought 1v1.
Weaver- Webspittle
Reaver- Guwano is the only reaver I can say did outstanding 1v1
Warg- Playful owned me every time------Also Despawn managed to wreck me without using cd's or pots most of the time
WL- 1v1...some dude back in SoA who was r6 and had ./rp on...forgot there name but only WL who ever actually fought me!
Defiler- None I've actually fought "1v1"
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Edit: 1v1 wise
Freeps:
Minis: Groson, Sapien, Megus
Champs: Dahhu, Mmagnus, Xene, Syprous, Jebedia, Turine, Silense
LMs: Katelia, Ailox, Acamar, Tinechor, Frizle
Burg: Government, Flinxx, Sweede, Tayawen
Guardian Zank, Dackrover, Ashendoon, Panvoryn, Willyphant, Matthiase,Grass,Grimsom(lol long list)
Captain: Holy, Badger, Moradrim, Lithium
Hunter: Valthirus, Ailious, Shadarow
RK: Cannotthinkofnames, Ruull, Glaborin, Badjestic, Askir, Kippers
Warden: Wishbone, Ethiacles
Raid/groupwise
Freeps
Minis: Megus
Champs: Dahhu/Silense
LMs: Can't really say, not too good at judging LMs anyway =p
Burg: Any burg that knows what Addle is and knows they can lock down healers. =p
Guards: Ashendoon/Panvoryn/Grass
Captain: Lith/Tarf/Holy
Hunter: Not sure what makes a hunter good in raids/groups >>
RK: Askir/ + RKs above
Warden: Wishbone
Creeps (Note: Raid/groupwise)
Weaver: Any weaver that knows how to CC well and do DPS I guess >>
Reaver: Gazrah, Rigs, Swordmonkey, Polarbash
Warg: Any warg that knows about their cc and how it should be used/dps/and how to harass a healer o.O
BA: Rash/Arrowsz
Defiler: Glordoom/Defilerdan/Guenk/Oskur
WL: Lotsa names, but most are my friends =p
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I guess I'll bite...
This is active/current players only:
Freeps:
Minis: Megus and Groson - no more needs to be said
Champs: none are "great" atm but best of those who are active would be Dahhu
Lms: none - still need to learn how to give/drain power, throw heal, fire/wind lore and SI effectively on a regular basis in addition to dpsing and cc'ing - only LM's I've seen who do all this or most of are Chaven and Acamar
Burg: Government (solo/gank/wtfpwned) and Elttercs - stays around after hips for the kill and addle bag is ridiculous
Guard: Ashendoon and Panvoryn - only active ones who play like guards - none use engage as a slow so -rep for all (grass and grimsom not active)
Cappy: Lithium and Tarfelion - no more needs to be said
Hunter: None - only hunters that have set themselves apart from the rest are Valthirus and Shadarrow and regard both as inactive, rest aren't really worth mentioning as I've yet to see them do anything that the average hunter can't do
Rk: Askir, when he plays - others to be noted; glaborin, cannot, ruull, badjestic and kippers should never be left alone to dps
Warden: none who are active
Creeps:
Weaver: Spittz - no more needs to be said
Reaver: Swordmonkey & Rigs - both hit like trucks (re: DR, personally like to see it used to get points, however nothing wrong with depriving points from people who don't deserve them, all very situational)
Warg: Sniffle - knows ins and outs and remembers how wargs were taught to play
BA: Arrowsz - uses landscape extremely effectively and only BA I've seen who does well in 1vs1's
Defiler: High ranks aren't active so out of all the rank 7's probably Glordoom
WL: EZluk & Pitt - thanks for the 4.5k heal the other day Pitt :D
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Me. I was pretty good
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Slyn
/guy who transfered who I forgot the name of
Yea I remember that guy. He was pretty dam good. Maybe not as good as whats his name, but he played pretty solid
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Re: Whos the best at their class?!?!
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Originally Posted by
Slyn
Lots of friend naming/people you play with naming so far...
anyways
CURRENT PLAYING ON A CONSITANT BASIS
Megus
Snow
frizle
ashen
askir
No Cap/burg/warden/champ that I consider good enough to name "the best" at the current time
Rash
Paracedic---BURG SQUAD TAKES CREDIT FOR MAKING U BETTER
EZluk/pitts
Glordoom
No Reaver or Warg I consider good enough to name "the best" at the current time
ALL TIME LIST----people I have played with/against for larger amounts of time considered
Megus/falrendir
Snow
Frizle
ashen
askir
sandbagger
wishbone
holy/troi
Cramer
Breakmeh
Webspittle
blackhate
ernik/guy who transfered who I forgot the name of
Playful---skaithe for raids
Oskir
FUTURE EDITS WHEN I REMEMBER NAMES
azrectus? he got banned when he was a 100k from r 12..... but then again you might be talkin about someone else
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Originally Posted by
crawman
azrectus? he got banned when he was a 100k from r 12..... but then again you might be talkin about someone else
No not him. He could 1v1 but other then that was a terrible reaver.
The guy I'm thinking of rarely grouped, name started with a T I believe, was a decent all around player.
And flank you may consider looking at your list and considering who did the best...not just everyone you thought did well!!!
And guardians are OP btw thats why your list is so big!
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I guess I can participate in the friend naming contest as well.
Warleader: Shakanos and Kazzer
Defiler: Guenk and Tarburzthenice
Blackarrow: Stickylips is the only other high ranked BA that plays besides myself
Warg: Flankrat, Scrufflet, Lobomal
Reaver: Bloodyblades/Rigs
Spider: Paracidic (The only real spider that currently plays it as a main toon and it shows)
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Originally Posted by
Slyn
No not him. He could 1v1 but other then that was a terrible reaver.
The guy I'm thinking of rarely grouped, name started with a T I believe, was a decent all around player.
I know who you are thinking of. I forget his name too and he was in my tribe. He was rank 8 when he left.
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here is my list of amazing players! ....that don't play anymore!
Burg - Sneaks! OP HiPS & Map!
Captain - Holydiverj! 3 day lotro binge/hospital visit FTW!
Champ - TwiggyT aka Turine!, he was on Dateline NBC!
Hunter - Leca! the original rage quitter!
Guardian - Indecent! PvEr of the moors!
Rune-Keeper - Anc....
Warden - no
Mini - Lunes! the dude that everyone thought was a chick!
LM - Mastermilley! Isendeep PRO!
Creeps.....
F@#K Creeps!
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Scrubs not knowing their history. TAZRUK.
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Originally Posted by
IPvPforaLiving
Scrubs not knowing their history. TAZRUK.
Weren't you a reaver or something?
Btw, FU GUYS I WAS THE BEST GROUP/RAID CHAMP EVAR! REASONS BELOW!
-I would never over extend.
-I would always cover my healers, especially Lunes because I thought he was a hot elf chick in real life.
-I would spam aoe when there was more than one creep around.
-I would FF healer and caster classes that were close to ranged classes to maximize my aoes.
-I would never pull too many npcs.
-I would never follow a single creep that got focused healed, I'm a tab targetting pro.
-I was always where my raid was, not getting one shot at Grams.
-I followed orders to a T.
-I was always respectful of my raid leaders and never got muted or kicked.
-I would never afk in the middle of a keep take.
/lulz
Take me off the list I'm a horrible champ! The best Vilya has seen is that guy that has sex with his Pikachu plushie!
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Originally Posted by
Turin_Turambar_The_F
-I would always cover my healers, especially Lunes because I thought he was a hot elf chick in real life.
You people are weird... I thought it was obvious o.o
Also these arn't the RIFT forums, thought you should know.
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Originally Posted by
Lithium777
You people are weird... I thought it was obvious o.o
Also these arn't the RIFT forums, thought you should know.
Only a chick would call themselves "Monday" in spanish :p~... Lunes is nothing more than a hotter Demonriel.
EDIT RESPONSE!
I know, but there's not enough flaming on the Reclaimer boards anymore, that and my warrior is Prestige 6... so it's wearing thin... also, I hear Lotro is gonna buff my class!
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Originally Posted by
Turin_Turambar_The_F
EDIT RESPONSE!
I know, but there's not enough flaming on the Reclaimer boards anymore, that and my warrior is Prestige 6... so it's wearing thin... also, I hear Lotro is gonna buff my class!
My rouge is almost level 30 now, I'll sooooo beat u in any match up :P
Also I guess I can make a list.... it'll be short though o.o
Captain: Badjer
Guard: Theo, even if ur on creep all the time now
RK: Ruull
Hunter: Dont have a top choice here
Champion: DOnt have a top choice
Warden: Dont have a top choice
LM: DOnt really have a top choice
Mini: Askir :P
Stalker: Sniffle, Skaithe 3 years ago
BA: Arrowsz
Defiler: Dont have a top choice
WL: Dont have a top choice, theres a few good ones these days
Spider: Dont have a top choice
Reaver: Dont have a top choice
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Originally Posted by
lithium777
my rouge is almost level 30 now, i'll sooooo beat u in any match up :p
also i guess i can make a list.... It'll be short though o.o
captain: Badjer
guard: Theo, even if ur on creep all the time now
rk: Ruull
hunter: Dont have a top choice here
champion: Dont have a top choice
warden: Dont have a top choice
lm: Dont really have a top choice
mini: Askir :p
stalker: Sniffle, skaithe 3 years ago
ba: Arrowsz
defiler: Dont have a top choice
wl: Dont have a top choice, theres a few good ones these days
spider: Dont have a top choice
reaver: Dont have a top choice
a challenge! Prepare to be globaled by the man who got beat by flavor's warg!
<3
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Psh I beat Flavors warg with 63 morale left and got like 160+renown. Two handed brutal crits ftw? :O
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Originally Posted by
eagleeye64
Psh I beat Flavors warg with 63 morale left and got like 160+renown. Two handed brutal crits ftw? :O
Turine lost miserably to like a r4 flavors with no pots. Flavor out keyboard turned TwiggyT...best part is they were like 20m circles!
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Originally Posted by
Slyn
Turine lost miserably to like a r4 flavors with no pots. Flavor out keyboard turned TwiggyT...best part is they were like 20m circles!
Not true... He out clicked me! DIFFERENCE! No one can out keyboard turn me when I'm using my face! Clicking all the 'right' skills can be difficult though. :(
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Originally Posted by
Turin_Turambar_The_F
Not true... He out clicked me! DIFFERENCE! No one can out keyboard turn me when I'm using my face! Clicking all the 'right' skills can be difficult though. :(
Turine you need to come on soon...you can be epic bait for our huge burg squad!
I don't blame the creeps for logging when we bring out 6 or so burgs...so I figure if we bring you with they will get at least as many points as us!
P.S Turine you are only one the list because of the champs on vilya plays like pansies!!!!!
And yes picichu lover was great but left us!
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the only two i care about and they ain't myself is a warg chubrat and a war leader akatrat nuff said
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Mini: Megus, Cwen
Champ: Dahhu, Xene
LM: Frizle
Guard: Ashendoon
Warden: haven't seen many wardens out lately, but I'd say Runik
Burg: Musc when he plays
RK: Ruull, Askir
Hunter: Snow, Deno
Cappy: Tarf, Lith, Zeath
Reaver: Swordmonkey
WL: Pitt, Kazzer
Warg: Sniffle
Defiler: probably Smegg since he's been out lately
Weaver: Lhegs or Paracidic
And last but not least,
BA: Rash, Arrowzs
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Yeah, Tazruk is the reaver you guys are thinking. And why isn't Badman on the best BA list? :p
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Originally Posted by
SoldierJ
Yeah, Tazruk is the reaver you guys are thinking. And why isn't Badman on the best BA list? :p
Badman was good and reliable...but I personally wouldn't consider him the best...
If you add a thin tree to the picture he was the best though...or if you want to hear a scary voice!
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Originally Posted by
Slyn
Badman was good and reliable...but I personally wouldn't consider him the best...
If you add a thin tree to the picture he was the best though...or if you want to hear a scary voice!
He definately saved my a$$ more times than I can remember though. I always remembered to throw extra heals his way because of it :p
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Mini: Megus, Cwendila
Champ: Dahhu, Xenephobe, Mmagnus
LM: Frizle
Guard: Ashendoon, Dackrover
Warden: Probably Runik
Burg: Muscaria
RK: Ruull, Askir, Cannotthinkofnames
Hunter: Snowlock, Denograth
Cappy: Tarfelion
Reaver: Rigs
WL: Dunno
Warg: Sniffle
Defiler: Smegg, I guess.
Spider: Lhegs
BA: Jokah
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Honestly these threads are a joke...But still, here's my list:
Freeps:
Mini-Donald
Champ-Cornbread
LM-Mickey
Captain-Minnie
Guard-Pluto
Warden-Piglet
Burg-Goofy
RK-MrScrooge
Creeps:
Reaver-Alien
Weaver-Predator
Warg-Cujo
WL-TheTerminator
Defiler-Indiana Jones
BA-Ted Bundy
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Freeps
Burglar: Sandbagger/Oskir's burg(cant remember its name :))
Captain: Holy/Zeath/Perseus
Champion: Cramer/Shiby/Xenephobe
Guardian: Ageon/Ashendoon
Hunter: Demonriel
Lore-Master: Faldane/Tedallalion
Minstrel: Falrendir/Megus
Rune-Keeper: Askir/Ruull
Warden: Ordelm/Wishbone
Creeps
Blackarrow: Breakmeh
Defiler: Oskir
Reaver: Ernik/Guwano/Murcielago
Stalker: Playful/Skaithe
Weaver: Webspittle
War-Leader: Bakan
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Holy s***, I made someone's list!! Thnx Snoopy, here's that sack of money I promised you. ;)
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Opshout
Redhate
Breakmeh
Spidergod
Intel
vs.
slyn's fail burg squad
= Burgs are creamed
Rashkosh
Kazzers
shakanos
paracidic
flankrat
vs.
slyn's fail burgs =
creeps rage log
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Originally Posted by
kinnroak
Opshout
Redhate
Breakmeh
Spidergod
Intel
vs.
slyn's fail burg squad
= Burgs are creamed
Rashkosh
Kazzers
shakanos
paracidic
flankrat
vs.
slyn's fail burgs =
creeps rage log
Lul failtroll.
Try trolling someone who cares.
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Originally Posted by
kinnroak
Opshout
Redhate
Breakmeh
Spidergod
Intel
vs.
slyn's fail burg squad
= Burgs are creamed
Rashkosh
Kazzers
shakanos
paracidic
flankrat
vs.
slyn's fail burgs =
creeps rage log
Kira?
Also, does anyone know if Whitehate still plays? Definitely needs to be on the list.
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Originally Posted by
coco88
Honestly these threads are a joke...But still, here's my list:
Freeps:
Mini-Donald
Champ-Cornbread
LM-Mickey
Captain-Minnie
Guard-Pluto
Warden-Piglet
Burg-Goofy
RK-MrScrooge
Creeps:
Reaver-Alien
Weaver-Predator
Warg-Cujo
WL-TheTerminator
Defiler-Indiana Jones
BA-Ted Bundy
I 2nd this list, that Ted Bundy guy is a beast.
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Originally Posted by
eagleeye64
Lul failtroll.
Try trolling someone who cares.
You responded so you must care.
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Originally Posted by
the_matrix
Holy s***, I made someone's list!! Thnx Snoopy, here's that sack of money I promised you. ;)
Heyyyy I thought we said 500g not 500c.... :p
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really.... someone put turine on their list.........lololol
they must have felt bad for the poor soul
most of these lists are really bad.
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Originally Posted by
Slyn
Burg- Sandbagger--- Wrecked on burg (didn't ever actually fight him...just got ganked by him) governemnt is the only one I've had a competitive 1v1 with recently on reaver so props for that!
I remember that 1v1 and all I can say is that I want a rematch, that was definitely not my A-game.
Guess I'll have a go at this too, but I'm honestly horrible at remembering people.
Burg: This would be a 3-way tie with Vindora, Scret, and Gorllok (who is back so watch out!)
Captain: Lithium
Champ: Shiby (I'd say Silense if he still played it out there)
Guard: Ashendoon
Hunter: Askir (Shadypoo)
LM: For lack of remembering any other LMs I will say Frizle
Minstrel: Megus (Valthirus's minstrel at 1v1s if he were still around)
Rune-keeper: Askir again (soft spot for RKs that ACTUALLY HEAL)
Warden: Minge was good on his but since he ain't around no more... Runik and Ethiacles are the only 2 I remember and my hat goes to both of them for putting up with that class for so long.
BA: Rashypoo is better at 1v1s but I'd also say Caulkman
Defiler: Oskir again
Reaver: Slin (had to say it)
Spider: Webspittle (who posted in this thread so that counts!)
War leader: Gotta give this one to Kazzer because he has balls, the only current War leader that will actually try to 1v1.
Warg: My hat here would go to Sniffle, he's got bawls too.
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Originally Posted by
spitzff
really.... someone put turine on their list.........lololol
they must have felt bad for the poor soul
most of these lists are really bad.
Don't be Jelly! Btw, are you still playing scrub in arms?
<3
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Originally Posted by
Turin_Turambar_The_F
Don't be Jelly! Btw, are you still playing scrub in arms?
<3
The only thing im doing these days is being slave labor for the us government
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Drama is still thick in the moors, thats good.
Hope to see you guys again around October.
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Originally Posted by
IPvPforaLiving
Scrubs not knowing their history. TAZRUK.
LOL
I logged in to forum just to say "It was Tazruk!" but then saw this. That dude was really good.
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The original Members of Lockdown after Defiance fell apart.
There have not been a set of freeps that have taken them in an arranged 6v6.
That being said, Freeps are disqualified.
Many examples on youtube.
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Originally Posted by
szizzle
The original Members of Lockdown after Defiance fell apart.
There have not been a set of freeps that have taken them in an arranged 6v6.
That being said, Freeps are disqualified.
Many examples on youtube.
Oh, you mean when creeps were completely overpowered at the end of Shadows of Angmar? I seem to remember the only 1v1 I ever lost on my war leader was to a champion. Killing every other class was cake. Now if I tried a fight on my war leader, I would probably lose to a guard, champ, warden, or burg that played their class half as well. Creeps had 2x the morale freeps had, way better mitigations, and freep dps was nothing compared to what it is now. Seems kind of hard to lose a fight with odds stacked in your favor like that. If they still existed now they wouldn't dare take a 6v6. So much has changed since then and from what the past has shown, the ones that are left play the side that has the advantage. Just wait till Isengard when you see their wargs come back out because they will have a 7 minute cool-down on Disappear.
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Originally Posted by
Megus
Oh, you mean when creeps were completely overpowered at the end of Shadows of Angmar? I seem to remember the only 1v1 I ever lost on my war leader was to a champion. Killing every other class was cake.
Your proof is a wl 1v1...a WL...1v1...just saying.
Also if you remember certain freep classes could easily do 1v2 against creep classes...and burgs were GOD MODE.
Creep mits and all were way better in comparison before freep dps/crits got such a huge boost but I would say creeps still had a disadvantage. Typically when I saw creeps rolling freeps it had a lot to do with mass WL rezzes or certain tactics...
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Originally Posted by
Slyn
Your proof is a wl 1v1...a WL...1v1...just saying.
Also if you remember certain freep classes could easily do 1v2 against creep classes...and burgs were GOD MODE.
Creep mits and all were way better in comparison before freep dps/crits got such a huge boost but I would say creeps still had a disadvantage. Typically when I saw creeps rolling freeps it had a lot to do with mass WL rezzes or certain tactics...
I'm not using it as proof. I am using it as an example. Burgs were good against anything that couldn't heal. Fighting a wl or defiler and they were out of power about halfway through your morale and all you had to do was auto attack and heal. But in a small group fight like a 6v6 they were useless other than making a green fellowship maneuver. No five second addle and pots and Snap out of It were pretty much used to stop their CC and when Lockdown came in to existence, the greying out of BA's with Enrage had already been taken out of the game.
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Megus
the greying out of BA's with Enrage had already been taken out of the game.
No, it hadn't.
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i remember Lockdown doing 6v6's in MoM and also SoM and winning then the freeps complaining creeps are OP then Lockdown got on there freeps and won again, maybe its the player not the class?
videos of this allover youtube also.
Lockdown always played well together nomatter what time in lotro.
they actually listen unlike most players now
and i know id be up for 6v6's 12v12's 24v24's if could happen anytime.
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No, it hadn't.
This... I miss butthurt Holly and Dodik.
Btw, Wls lost alot of their OPness when SoA added better gear for the freeps via craftables... WL shouts were a bit OP in the beginning (1k shouts = 1/3 of my hp at the time)... but things evened out with gear by Bk 13... not to mention the Second 'Month of' dedicated to un #### ing champs, lulz.
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For the 6vs6 against Lockdown peeps; the freeps chose their friends who weren't the best. Many times the people they brought hadn't even been to the Moors for quite awhile or simply weren't up to par. They just picked a handful of people who they liked even though they never played together out in the Moors. I remember them doing some pretty awful tactics because that..
I'd still be willing to do a 6vs6 and on creepside. Yes freeps should win, but they'd likely find a way to lose.
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Yes freeps should win, but they'd likely find a way to lose.
I think Ez was the first Loremaster I've seen run ancient master in RvR for like a month...
you dps loremasters are noobs.. straight up
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I think Ez was the first Loremaster I've seen run ancient master in RvR for like a month...
you dps loremasters are noobs.. straight up
idk if there is something i'm missing but askir is always telling lm's to trait ancient master...just saying.
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idk if there is something i'm missing but askir is always telling lm's to trait ancient master...just saying.
Well if there is only 1 LM in the group, AM is by far the best way to trait if they know how to play.
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Slyn
idk if there is something i'm missing but askir is always telling lm's to trait ancient master...just saying.
How many listen?
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tomdude34
How many listen?
When has grouping and not dpsing been rewarding to 'soloers' in this game? SoA? Besides LMs have always been their own fellowship.
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When has grouping and not dpsing been rewarding to 'soloers' in this game? SoA? Besides LMs have always been their own fellowship.
want to 1v1?
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I would call this a successful thread derail if I've ever seen one.
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I would call this a successful thread derail if I've ever seen one.
lol i was just thinking the same thing, i skipped from the first page to the last and had to check if i was still on the same thread
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timmyloo22546
Well if there is only 1 LM in the group, AM is by far the best way to trait if they know how to play.
hybrid setup is actually better if you are the only lrm.
1 red, 4 yellow, 2 blue
Eagle, ents, SS as leg traits
capstone for AM sucks, and losing another red or blue for the 5th yellow hurts your ability to stay alive or keep other people alive, which is your job (along with draining/passing power, cc, debuffs, and dps).
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hybrid setup is actually better if you are the only lrm.
1 red, 4 yellow, 2 blue
Eagle, ents, SS as leg traits
capstone for AM sucks, and losing another red or blue for the 5th yellow hurts your ability to stay alive or keep other people alive, which is your job (along with draining/passing power, cc, debuffs, and dps).
Translation: Loremasters, doing everything is your job!
@Rash
I assume that was a Meg 'plug'?
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Im pretty offended i was left out of a lot of the lists :(
been here since the begining, i know i play like ####### but when i get real i go pretty HAM (hard as a mofo) or HITP (hard in the paint).
thank you for all those who recognize my overpowered leetness.
autographs will be signed at the Last Homely House at 3pm July 1st.
Be there or be square.
that is all. :)
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aldencook
Im pretty offended i was left out of a lot of the lists :(
been here since the begining, i know i play like ####### but when i get real i go pretty HAM (hard as a mofo) or HITP (hard in the paint).
thank you for all those who recognize my overpowered leetness.
autographs will be signed at the Last Homely House at 3pm July 1st.
Be there or be square.
that is all. :)
You are still drunk zeathleN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
P.S U suck!
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I would like to add Zeath to my list of people who are best at their class because he is a CRYBABY B###H
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The original Members of Lockdown after Defiance fell apart.
There have not been a set of freeps that have taken them in an arranged 6v6.
That being said, Freeps are disqualified.
Many examples on youtube.
thats sounds like a challenge nol you get your 6 and ill get mine and we can 6v6 then we can maybe be on your lsit
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thats sounds like a challenge nol you get your 6 and ill get mine and we can 6v6 then we can maybe be on your lsit
epic pve showdown!!!!!!
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Im pretty offended i was left out of a lot of the lists
Welcome to my world Zeath ;). That said, you're at the top of my list for best corpse jumper though. Laughed my ### off when you guys burned me up near SOP last night. Thought the whole raid should have got in on it. :)
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Welcome to my world Zeath ;). That said, you're at the top of my list for best corpse jumper though. Laughed my ### off when you guys burned me up near SOP last night. Thought the whole raid should have got in on it. :)
But I spam that spacebar like a boss...
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Welcome to my world Zeath ;). That said, you're at the top of my list for best corpse jumper though. Laughed my ### off when you guys burned me up near SOP last night. Thought the whole raid should have got in on it. :)
To Jump or not to Jump, that was the question.
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spitzff
hybrid setup is actually better if you are the only lrm.
1 red, 4 yellow, 2 blue
Eagle, ents, SS as leg traits
capstone for AM sucks, and losing another red or blue for the 5th yellow hurts your ability to stay alive or keep other people alive, which is your job (along with draining/passing power, cc, debuffs, and dps).
Going have to disagree. The fact that you're losing a 30s duration on -30% melee damage/+5% miss chance for 8+ targets is hurting your/your group's ability to stay alive. Going hybrid, you aren't doing much of anything for DPS and honestly don't increase your own survivabilty by anything noticable. With the AM capstone, your ancient craft lasts much longer as well and -armour value takes a huge toll on creep mitigation across the board (which increases group dps way more than going hybrid to try n increase your own).
Nearly all creep groups have multiple wargs, i'd take raven over eagle. An extra ~7-10% shadow mitigation for squishies is a huge difference vs wargs.
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timmyloo22546
Going have to disagree. The fact that you're losing a 30s duration on -30% melee damage/+5% miss chance for 8+ targets is hurting your/your group's ability to stay alive. Going hybrid, you aren't doing much of anything for DPS and honestly don't increase your own survivabilty by anything noticable. With the AM capstone, your ancient craft lasts much longer as well and -armour value takes a huge toll on creep mitigation across the board (which increases group dps way more than going hybrid to try n increase your own).
Nearly all creep groups have multiple wargs, i'd take raven over eagle. An extra ~7-10% shadow mitigation for squishies is a huge difference vs wargs.
If you played your loremaster more you'd realize why I said the things I did.
I run raven unless I need to interrupt wls with eagle.
and hybrid setup is not to increase dps at all, its for the fast wound cure, without the fast cure you can be set back enough by a few creeps to never get it off in time; also hybrid allows you to pick up extra morale, which I always needed alot of cause I was getting focused a-lot. You will also find that you dont need the extra fire lore, because all the melee have already chickened out and ran to the back by the time the 30 secs is up, and you can just throw tar to ruin their day anyway. ancient craft is nice, but likely your target is gonna be dead or outta range before the 30sec if off anyhow, and it has too small of a range (10m) and radius to be very effective in pvp anyway, also it doesn't do a whole lot to creep armor anyways because their values are much higher than pve mobs and the skill is set to be used in pve..... i.e. it will give ya ~10% against a t2 raid boss, vs 3-5% against a creep.
Also you will find that 30% isnt always 30% in turbine's book. just like 20% isnt 20% and -15% isnt -15%.
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spitzff
If you played your loremaster more you'd realize why I said the things I did.
I run raven unless I need to interrupt wls with eagle.
and hybrid setup is not to increase dps at all, its for the fast wound cure, without the fast cure you can be set back enough by a few creeps to never get it off in time; also hybrid allows you to pick up extra morale, which I always needed alot of cause I was getting focused a-lot. You will also find that you dont need the extra fire lore, because all the melee have already chickened out and ran to the back by the time the 30 secs is up, and you can just throw tar to ruin their day anyway. ancient craft is nice, but likely your target is gonna be dead or outta range before the 30sec if off anyhow, and it has too small of a range (10m) and radius to be very effective in pvp anyway, also it doesn't do a whole lot to creep armor anyways because their values are much higher than pve mobs and the skill is set to be used in pve..... i.e. it will give ya ~10% against a t2 raid boss, vs 3-5% against a creep.
Also you will find that 30% isnt always 30% in turbine's book. just like 20% isnt 20% and -15% isnt -15%.
Because you play your LM so much out in the Moors! PvE land is not the same as PvMP land.
An extra 5% morale for a LM isn't much of anything when they sit at 6300-6500 unbuffed without it. They're typically in the captain's group for even more morale anyways. If you end up dying, chances are that extra 5% morale wouldn't have helped you in this case especially because you're giving up something crucial that would have saved you in the first place.
The fast cure (healer?) only saves 1s off leechcraft. The induction to leechcraft doesn't get set back when being attacked and combine that with the fact that BA firedot is on a 20s cooldown, the class trait really isn't needed anymore. If you're being attacked, you will likely be kiting so chances are you wouldn't stop to try an induction in the first place.
~1700 armour value takes (roughly) -10% mitigation across the board for creeps (westerness, beleriand, fire, etc). You can literally look at the actual % yourself, you don't have to estimate using half #### parsers like in PvE land. Traited ancient master capstone, the ancient craft is ~2700 armour value and lasts a minute. Thats closer to a -15% mitigation to ALL damage for a whole minute. It makes quick switches when focus firing targets crazy more effective.
^^ And 10m range isn't that much. If something is focus fired by creeps, they're probably all in the same area, or at least the melee. Sounds like a good time to use it!
On my warg, claws typically does 277 shadow damage. With fire-lore on me, it was only at 194 shadow damage. 194/277 = 70% What do you know, that means fire-lore reduced my warg's melee damage by 30%; odd how skills work vs creeps
Because I don't play my LM enough, is there anything else you would like to teach me while I'm still learning? <--that pertains to killing creeps, and not npcs please.
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Lol, first time I've seen Askir be 'snooty.' Chaven has been in the moors quite a bit, perhaps not recently, though, that shouldn't be the focus of your argument right now 'grouch.' :p
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timmyloo22546
~1700 armour value takes (roughly) -10% mitigation across the board for creeps (westerness, beleriand, fire, etc). You can literally look at the actual % yourself, you don't have to estimate using half #### parsers like in PvE land. Traited ancient master capstone, the ancient craft is ~2700 armour value and lasts a minute. Thats closer to a -15% mitigation to ALL damage for a whole minute. It makes quick switches when focus firing targets crazy more effective.
the capstone for ancient master doesn't change the debuff value only the duration, its still -1755 armor. Only value it changes is SoP:SaE.
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the capstone for ancient master doesn't change the debuff value only the duration, its still -1755 armor. Only value it changes is SoP:SaE.
awwwww snap! DRAMA!!!!
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awwwww snap! DRAMA!!!!
To be fair, Silense could've worded his response better... :p Though, it's been a while since I've seen the Oskir the 'Grouch,' lol.
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To be fair, Silense could've worded his response better... :p Though, it's been a while since I've seen the Oskir the 'Grouch,' lol.
Well when Isengard is released I gotta start playing creepside again. Gotta get back into that creep mentality! :p
Too many people underestimate the value of AM out in the Moors. Nearly every LM doesn't like that play-style because they can see big numbers that typically don't matter.
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Non relevant lotro google search brought me here as a result. Damn this brings back some memories