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Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Kelsan requested data so lets just put all here. Try to stay on topic . Any Mitigation or DPS data please post here. If we are lucky he may check the forum.
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Originally Posted by
Kelsan
Greetings,
In the foreseeable future, I will be working alongside Orion on PvMP updates. We feel that your feedback is important, particularly when it is supported by data. I know that as players, especially PvPers, we are deeply invested in the game and when things change (or break, as they are prone to do)we feel slighted and want our frustrations to be heard. When commenting on the forums, I encourage you to support your feedback with data with which we can create actionable goals.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
PurebloodWorg
Kelsan requested data so lets just put all here.
http://i.imgur.com/rPsrb.jpg
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Originally Posted by
bruceli
....... I love it
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Fixed a bug caused by adjustments to the Creep Armor values. Creep armor has been increased and mitigations are now returned to their original values. (NOTE- you will see +/-1% due to rounding).
http://i.imgur.com/Q1rk5.jpg
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by update 5.1
Addressed a number of typos. Probably added some new ones.
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Originally Posted by update 5.1
Fixed a bug caused by adjustments to the Creep Armor values. Creep armor has been increased and mitigations are now returned to their original values. (NOTE- you will see +/-10% due to rounding).
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...m4mqD4osOyLmUg
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
I think my BA's mitigations got nerfed in the update, can anyone confirm?
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Originally Posted by
chiolas
*picture*
omg omg .. Lol :D i laught hard :D omg noooo ...
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Armour went up, mits hardly moved.
lol bet this took them like 30 minutes to *fix*
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
DaveChappelle
Armour went up, mits hardly moved.
lol bet this took them like 30 minutes to *fix*
Hey they didn't want to cut into their cutesy patch notes time. Gotta
have priorities.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Creeps to Devs: Please, PLEASE give us some attention and fix us!
Devs to Creeps:
http://blog.wearyourstory.com/wp-con...11/03/poop.jpg
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Too bad Purebloodworg cant delete some of the immature posts in this thread. If I was Kelsan and read the topic.. Id look and then id see all the stupid posts and head back over to Freep discussion. Its not that Kelsan doesnt want to help Creeps... look what he has to deal with seriously. This thread could be used in a more constructive way but its not. Thanks people!
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Wilfrum
Too bad Purebloodworg cant delete some of the immature posts in this thread. If I was Kelsan and read the topic.. Id look and then id see all the stupid posts and head back over to Freep discussion. Its not that Kelsan doesnt want to help Creeps... look what he has to deal with seriously. This thread could be used in a more constructive way but its not. Thanks people!
The politeness train has long departed
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Originally Posted by
Wilfrum
Too bad Purebloodworg cant delete some of the immature posts in this thread. If I was Kelsan and read the topic.. Id look and then id see all the stupid posts and head back over to Freep discussion. Its not that Kelsan doesnt want to help Creeps... look what he has to deal with seriously. This thread could be used in a more constructive way but its not. Thanks people!
I think people just dont have faith and patience anymore.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
I Think people just dont have faith and patience anymore.
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
Think people just dont have faith and patience anymore.
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
People just dont have faith and patience anymore.
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
People dont have faith and patience anymore.
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
Dont have faith and patience anymore.
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
Dont have faith and patience
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Originally Posted by
gunlang
Dont have faith and patience
Aww I failed to get it down any further one word at a time.... wow my little game was more interesting than playing my reaver has been for some time.
Clearest fact in the whole thread.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Wilfrum
Too bad Purebloodworg cant delete some of the immature posts in this thread. If I was Kelsan and read the topic.. Id look and then id see all the stupid posts and head back over to Freep discussion. Its not that Kelsan doesnt want to help Creeps... look what he has to deal with seriously. This thread could be used in a more constructive way but its not. Thanks people!
Seeing as all of our well written proposals, creative suggestions, and constructive feedback has been completely ignored...
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Why is Kelsan asking for data from players? Doesn’t he have access to the servers, their logs, and therefore a much more siginficant data store than players? Much of the relevant information isn’t even available to players anyway...
The mind boggles.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Celestrata
Turbine's Message to us:
Instead of helping you with we post ponnies in your thread. It's the best we can do at this time. We cannot spend more than five minutes on PvP. Who cares about the long term player base, anyways?
SWTOR is here and GW2 is just down the road guys....
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Sertsac
Why is Kelsan asking for data from players? Doesn’t he have access to the servers, their logs, and therefore a much more siginficant data store than players? Much of the relevant information isn’t even available to players anyway...
The mind boggles.
I assumed his data sources were indeed more than ours, but one glance at the forums revealed the issue. We had a few creep players post pics of mitigations tool tips before and after the lie. Now either this dev didn’t have that data, chose not to perform that simple 15-30 second exercise or was far too busy to care.
Regardless, its crystal clear at this point that good data, feedback or constructive ideas are pointless. This guy couldn’t fix a known and acknowledged bug, it’s not like this hasn’t been talked to death. Not only that the explanation we got for the lie was tantamount to an “oops”. Never mind the other issues creeps face in the moors id really not bank on much at all in terms of improvements.
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Originally Posted by
Chiolas
Let's get back to the randomness mmkay?
Okay.
http://www.poundart.com/art/randcomi...1993-12-21.gif
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Originally Posted by
Ugmo
I can't figure out if I'm reading a random comic or looking at a reenactment of the typical
Turbine PvMP related staff meeting.
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Originally Posted by
darnd
I can't figure out if I'm reading a random comic or looking at a reenactment of the typical
Turbine PvMP related staff meeting.
No. That's this:
http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000...1164.strip.gif
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Originally Posted by
Chiolas
in ten bloody seconds it makes me want to watch the whole thing!
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Originally Posted by
mrfigglesworth
in ten bloody seconds it makes me want to watch the whole thing!
Here's the short version:
http://images.4chan.org/gif/src/1327009091267.gif
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Originally Posted by
Chiolas
name of film?
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Originally Posted by
Theandil
name of film?
I don't know T_T
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Of course we all mad :D
We should be grateful that we have had a new tree and the bird in 4 yrs
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/...eseedlarge.gif
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Originally Posted by
Chiolas
I don't know T_T
ha ha have it ! :)
name of film or better Serial :D : Police Squad!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083466/
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Ok so I like this thread, I love giff battles. But could you redo this thread as a new one pureblood? I think it's important to have this.
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Originally Posted by
Armitas
Ok so I like this thread, I love giff battles. But could you redo this thread as a new one pureblood? I think it's important to have this.
I’m genuinely curious as to why you think its important?
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Originally Posted by
Thorgrum
I’m genuinely curious as to why you think its important?
Because one needs data to make accurate adjus..., oh wait that was rhetorical wasn't it. dangit!
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Originally Posted by
mithelenthor
^ LoreMaster bich camped at the tree, ensuring no creep could get near the bird.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Would You love a monsterman
could You understand
beauty of a beast?
:(
plz?
http://youtu.be/IRhbOFlTA5g
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
This thread, as sad as it is to say, is the most important bit of info creeps have been offered and given in years, this thread is pure win and should be stickied.
By the way PvMP isn't kelsans fault i'm sure. He has a bunch of stuipid azz suit mofos who don't know shiz, but think they do, who are probably always giving him stupid shiz to do and making him implement ridiculously ignorant ideas. This would be due to them being higher up the manager chain.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
gleowine
This thread, as sad as it is to say, is the most important bit of info creeps have been offered and given in years, this thread is pure win and should be stickied.
By the way PvMP isn't kelsans fault i'm sure. He has a bunch of stuipid azz suit mofos who don't know shiz, but think they do, who are probably always giving him stupid shiz to do and making him implement ridiculously ignorant ideas. This would be due to them being higher up the manager chain.
Alright mister you had your fun now back to the topic pls:
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2...obatic-dog.gif
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
Haven't read this whole thread so hopefully this isn't redundant info.
Already bugged this, but spider melee pet is causing friendly npcs to attack again. It isn't even just around npcs that it happens, I have had members in my group report that in the middle of pvp they were able to target my pet and attack it. >.<
Also, I don't know if this is broken or just logging in combat log incorrectly, but I often get devastating hit messages where no damage is applied to the target. For example, Beleguial has hit "freepname" for a devastating hit with Tainted Kiss. instead of Beleguial has hit "freepname" for a devastating hit with Tainted Kiss for 550 acid damage. From the fail spider damage, I tend to think the coding is broken and we are getting nothing at all for dev hits on certain skills.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Aethniniel
Haven't read this whole thread so hopefully this isn't redundant info.
If you read the thread you'll see it's redundant, but not in the way you suspect it is.
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Originally Posted by
Aethniniel
Haven't read this whole thread so hopefully this isn't redundant info.
Already bugged this, but spider melee pet is causing friendly npcs to attack again. It isn't even just around npcs that it happens, I have had members in my group report that in the middle of pvp they were able to target my pet and attack it. >.<
Also, I don't know if this is broken or just logging in combat log incorrectly, but I often get devastating hit messages where no damage is applied to the target. For example, Beleguial has hit "freepname" for a devastating hit with Tainted Kiss. instead of Beleguial has hit "freepname" for a devastating hit with Tainted Kiss for 550 acid damage. From the fail spider damage, I tend to think the coding is broken and we are getting nothing at all for dev hits on certain skills.
Hehe use the ranged pet, after two attacks it just stops attacking. Pure win.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Winterfell
If only Turbine could think this way.....
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Originally Posted by
gimli4480
If only Turbine could think this way.....
It's a bit misleading through over simplification though. The cost of fixing defects doesn't depend so much on where in the 'life cycle' they are fixed as where mistakes have been made. Fixing badly defined requirements when your software has already shipped may involve going back to the drawing board (design stage) and ultimately having to rewrite large sections of it, whereas fixing implementation bugs can be fairly trivial. Also obviously enough, fixing 'defects' late in the life-cycle will typically cost more for the simple reason that easy-to-fix (ie, cheap) defects have already been fixed at that point (although that probably doesn't apply to the mitigation issue).
In a system such as a MMORPG that inherently undergoes multiple cycles as it's being constantly updated and expanded, in which cycle a mistake was made would also be a factor.
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
gimli4480
Turbine's Message to us:
Instead of helping you with we post ponnies in your thread. It's the best we can do at this time. We cannot spend more than five minutes on PvP. Who cares about the long term player base, anyways?
SWTOR is here and GW2 is just down the road guys....
^ This.
The blue names just try and keep people pacified by posting off topic stuff, they don't actually help anyone. heh, that goes for their customer service department too...
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
gleowine
Hehe use the ranged pet, after two attacks it just stops attacking. Pure win.
Yeah, I tried it out for about 5 minutes. Wouldn't attack or autoattack anything, was completely useless. Total waste of DP to unlock the class trait for it. >.<
Now I know you think I missed the point of this thread but....
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2...oo-quickly.gif
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Aethniniel
From the fail spider damage, I tend to think the coding is broken and we are getting nothing at all for dev hits on certain skills.
The no damage on the dev hits are:
WAI
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Re: Official PVMP Data Log Thread (As requested by Kelsan)
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Originally Posted by
Aethniniel
Haven't read this whole thread so hopefully this isn't redundant info.
Already bugged this, but spider melee pet is causing friendly npcs to attack again. It isn't even just around npcs that it happens, I have had members in my group report that in the middle of pvp they were able to target my pet and attack it. >.<
Also, I don't know if this is broken or just logging in combat log incorrectly, but I often get devastating hit messages where no damage is applied to the target. For example, Beleguial has hit "freepname" for a devastating hit with Tainted Kiss. instead of Beleguial has hit "freepname" for a devastating hit with Tainted Kiss for 550 acid damage. From the fail spider damage, I tend to think the coding is broken and we are getting nothing at all for dev hits on certain skills.
I notice this on Eye Rake a lot
