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By weekend, do you mean right now untill sunday? :) Because some countries don't count friday as weekend. Just wondering wether I should go crazy farm right now or not.
EDIT: Okay, let me rephrase the question.
Will this be in effect starting this Friday US time or Saturday?
Anyone? :$
Well, considering it's still thursday in the U.S., I'd say not right now, no.
Okay, let me rephrase the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roberto_the_First
Will this be in effect starting this Friday US time or Saturday?
Where does it announce this?
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...t-Middle-earth!Quote:
Originally Posted by CoopertheBudgie
Bringing up my post :)
Keeping your post up. Apparently I started the same thread without bothering to do my research first. Regardless I hope we get an answer soon - it's friday arvo here = weekend to us!!!
I do wonder, though, that although the number of boxes and keys might increase the quality of the rewards might have been adjusted temporarily or permanently?
eg (and just to use round figures) if the drop rate for a horse from a box was 5% prior to this weekend would it be dropped to perhaps 2% over the weekend? Or if the drop rate for WSOTEK was 2% prior to weekend would it now be 1%?
I think over all it's great we get more gifts, and let's face it something for nothing if you don't buy the keys from the store but given the uproar and controversy of the current drop rate (or supposedly) of best items I do wonder. I suspect they might up the rate of the horses and temp drop the rate of WSOTEK.
Im going to guess the box drop rate will much higher than the key rate to increase store sales. Only time will tell though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catburg
came to figure..can i go nuts or not?..xD
Stop doing that. It's against the code of conduct to "bump" posts. And really, it's just plain rude. The freaklin' announcement says "this weekend". The weekend is Saturday and Sunday. It probably will start Friday night, but really, does it matter? Are you going to change your life around for a chance at a lootbox?Quote:
Originally Posted by Influencia
it is not against the code, it is not rude, u didn't give a precise answer and it does matter, we r not gonna change our lives, but we have the right to know..Quote:
Originally Posted by GregJL
PS:ty for helping to bring up the post..LMAO
Anything that brings me closer to a WSOC or anything that helps get 2nd or 1st age weapon is OK in my book, although I reckon my chances are nil. I'll just have to keep farming sigils and dribble them on to the AH to keep the price high
Reading the notes for the live testing of update 6 it seems they will be barter items in the main game soon anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lobengulu
The Worn Symbol of Celebrimbor will be a barter item on the skirmish vendors. The Symbol of the Elder King will not. So you can get the parts for a second age, but not a first age, from the skirmish vendors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bragard
I'm also wondering when this is supposed to start. Today (being Friday?) or will it be Saturday and Sunday US time only? And until what times? It would be nice to know, not that it will affect what I'll be doing. I've got deeds to grind anyways for the upcoming increase in virtures to 14.
Actually, it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elnrod
http://www.lotro.com/community/700-communityguidelines
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8. Making short posts for the sole purpose of moving your thread up the Forums ("bumping") or adding to your post count is not allowed.
Thanks for the bump. I missed the announcement as did others. Now I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Influencia
Also counts for creeps?
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by Atriohm
/10char
It's just plain rude?? You sir need to get a life.Quote:
Originally Posted by GregJL
I too, would like to know when this starts and ends. Unlike Treasure Hunt type events, we can't just see the stable guy go away and know it's over :p
I find minimods much ruder than bump posts. I agree that bumping is against the forum ToS, but there was really no reason for you to respond in this manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by GregJL
The announcement does say this weekend, but 'weekend' means different things to different people. It does matter. Some people will be making slight alterations to their plans based on this event.
This thread reminds me of Glengary Glenross...
"three BUSINESS days!"
great play; great movie!
To answer the question, yes, the event is enabled right now! Good luck finding those lootboxes and keys! :D
To answer the moderation question, yes, don't bump your posts because it's a violation. :) You're lucky my hammer's behind me and I'm too tired to turn around to get it, so consider this a warning. ;D
*Steals your Hammer* Sorry, my warden needed that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestrata
Was it increased by 1% ?
Dont notice any difference
Drop rate of 1st age symbols are posted...give us the data on this ?
Lols, had a symbol drop yesterday :) Hoping to get some more boxes now to get a 2nd one :P
i think its all a lie there wasnt no increase what so ever h9ow can u justifire someone farming for 5 hours and not once get a key or box....if turbien are gonna say oh we increasing the drop rate at least be man/woman enough to tell us what the original and increased percentage is
After 100 + NPCs....zero lootboxes
Not much of an increase
Found one while running Sword Halls, normal mode, yesterday evening. It dropped on one of the adds from either the sorceror or the Merrevail. Not sure.
I happened to have found a Key last week while questing, so my kinnie gave the lootbox to me, I opened it and found a LI title, not sure which or what it does, and.... 10 Compendiums of Middle Earth Vol. 2 :-)
Gave 4 Compendiums to the kinnie that gave me the lootbox, gave 3 compendiums to the other kinnie in the fellowship and kept the other 3 compendiums to myself, everybody happy :-)
Yes there is. This is MY community too, and I have every right to inform people of the rules. You don't like it, you can leave. Whatever you choose to do, it won't matter to me, because this is the last post I will see from you, unless it's in a quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyMistress
And anyone who thinks it's NOT rude to basically say "My thread is so much more important than yours, so I'm going to make a post to ensure mine is above yours" is the one who needs to get a life.
-rep because I disagreed with you. Very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by GregJL
I'm glad I don't get to be part of "your community". I don't want to play in a place where it's rude to ask for an answer and where people get -rep for disagreeing with something.
Enjoy your little world :)
Not surprised. Their drop rate before was somewhere around the rate of one box every 2000 mobs, or 0.05%. I highly doubt that they would have increased it to 10% or something like that. More like one box every 500-1000 mobs that drop loot if we're lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by PurebloodWorg
I still doubt that I'll see a box this weekend and that doesn't bother me that much. I've said it before and I'll say it again- if you're grinding mobs trying to farm a lootbox you're wasting your time for nothing. Go play the game and maybe you'll get lucky and get one in normal game play. To do otherwise- and especially to expect otherwise, is, well, kinda dumb in my opinion.
Pretty much this ^^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by sirwillow
The only thing one might want to do is quest or deed in the level area you want loot boxes for (for the duration of the, ahem, significant increase :D)
Which is exactly what I have been doing, for a 0 success rate. And before you try to baffle orbull#### me with maths, 0-whateveris - whatever, 0+whatever is 0 +whatever, but 0/ and 0* whatever is = 0Quote:
Originally Posted by Catburg
I want to know where you got the 1 in 2000 mobs number, who's data,...that sort of thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by sirwillow
because of the mobs I'm farming.. I originally looked at 'mobs looted'. and had a rate of 1:200 for the weekend....
then someone asked me to look at mob kills.
In that period. I've gotten 8 'items' in ~3000 mobs for a rate of 0.26%, certainly seems...doubled or perhaps trippled.. But quadrupled strikes me as odd.
I'm just curious where the initial number came from.
Just wondering if I missed something. Has there been a lottery yet? Checked a few times, but haven't seen one yet so thought I'd ask.Quote:
The keys can be found off of fallen enemies, rewards within the lootboxes themselves, on the auction house, in special lotteries all weekend long, or through the LOTRO Store.
Spent an hour murdering dwarves on my spider and nary a key or lootbox. Enough to tell me the drop rate wasn't increased enough to devote any more time to it.
Whatever the rate increase, I'm on the side of "not enough"...or at least not enough that they should've really bothered with an announcement of the fact. I'm all for an increased drop rate as a short-term boost or motivator, but so far it's just been a huge, huge sinkhole of my weekend time that probably would've been better spent elsewhere, in-game or out.
Either I'm just one of the many super unlucky or the increase isn't all it's cracked up to be. Countless hours on mob after mob both last night and so far today and only one lootbox that turned out to be a complete dud (box contained only one thing...a "bound" earring with stats of no interest to the character type/hunter that found and opened the box).
Got that one box last night and not a single box or key since then. (The key I used to open the box, I bought at the auction house for way more gold than the box turned out to be worth.) *sigh*
Signed,
One of the (Likely) Many Sincerely, Utterly, Deeply Frustrated
Hours and hours of PvEing and not one lootbox.
Now this I am totally and completely agreed with. My son and I in grinding out a few deeds did get one box to drop after about 3 hours, but that was it. And that's about what I expected. Personally I don't think they should have made an announcement unless they were bumping up the boxes enough so that everyone should have been getting them around a rate of one every couple of hours. As it is, I'm thinking it's going to be another PR move that backfires on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblique
But I also still stand by my earlier statements as well. :)
800+ level 75 kills this weekend and not a single key or loot box.
I give you props Turbine. You got me. You got me good.
One box and one key after way, way too much grinding--nothing but 2 pieces of mediocre caster jewelry that bound to my champ. I think this little promotion or whatever they want to call it is a fail. The number of people frustrated seems to far outnumber the folks who are happy, and I don't think Turbine is making that much money out of it. The drop rate is still too low and the loot is still too screwed up.
A better way would have been a higher drop rate with useful loot in each box, even if the rate for the best items (i.e. WSOTEK) remained low. A stack of morale pots doesn't piss people off the way a #### damage scroll or useless BOA jewelry does.
For what it is worth .. I found 2 lvl 70-75 lootboxes in isengard, looted from lvl 75 non-signature mobs. One box had some potions but the other contained a Worn Symbol of the Elder King and level 3 tome of Vitality.
Server: Imladris
Yes you do need to get a life, cause you are taking an internet forum WAY too seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by GregJL
Already replied on this thread, but it's worth an update, if only to reiterate and re-emphasize my extreme frustrations.
Hunted mobs for hours and hours more after my prior response, and still, my luck hasn't changed. Didn't loot a single key or lootbox today. I give up. I CANNOT waste any more hours of my weekend on this alleged great "increased" lootbox droprate when the thing I seem to have "looted" most from all this is nothing but frustration, disappointment and a great degree of anger that I actually bothered to try (aka clearly wasted) that much time of my weekend on this.
Part of me wanted to keep trying all weekend in hopes my luck was just bad and the good would catch up later, but I can't. No optimism left. Lots of mobs and countless hours of no drops on an "increased droprate weekend" tends to kill your optimism real fast. In fact, it killed mine hours ago. I've just now realized it's time to give up.
You know, I begin to wonder if a bigger reason for any increase or report in drops at all this weekend is because we've been somewhat duped into hunting for lootboxes by the announcement of increased drops, thus more of us have been out there specifically in kill mode, rather than quest mode, craft mode, etc. If more mobs are being done in, of course the chance for more drops goes up. Just a thought...........
Funny... I found a box Friday before the supposed bonus to drop rate. Since I had some deed to complete, I thought it was a good idea to do them this weekend...
Nope, not a single drop after several hundreds kills. I'm glad my deeds are done now, but I guess someone in Turbine forgot to switch this bonus on - or it's just Stat Books v2.0: they have a chance to drop in chests, and everyone knows how high that chance is, right? :)
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Originally Posted by KillerPoohForum
If you (and others) would look at the "What did you get?" thread you wouldn't be surprised by drops like that. Nor should you be surprised at the still extremely low drop rate of the boxes and keys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oblique
Really people. Yes, Turbine blew it by announcing an "event" that really isn't an event, but those getting upset are being silly expecting things that never were going to be there when the information has been out on the forums for quite a while. Drop rates are normally very very rare, so now they've just moved up to very rare. And what's in the boxes is a crapshoot and has been the whole time. Getting upset with Turbine because you spent hours grinding mobs when you wouldn't take a few minutes to get informed is pointing the blame at the wrong people.
I have farmed 8 lootboxes before this event at a rate of 1 ever 3 hrs. Since this week started I have farmed for 19hrs and only received 2 lootboxes no keys. Are you guys sure you turned it up? Or is there an extraneous variable such as the new influx of farmers that would lower the rate? My fellow farmers are also noticing an actual decrease, in fact he is at 19hrs now with NO lootboxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestrata
Also Can you confirm that store bought keys and dropped keys are equal in all aspects, as in chance to get a WSoTEK
Others are reporting tons of keys and no boxes. Something really weird is going on here.
Did not see a single Lootbox all weekend
Spent several hours farming
Hyping up false "events" like this is not appreciated
/jealous :)Quote:
Originally Posted by KillerPoohForum
I found two this weekend (doubling my total 'found' count). One 60-69 on my 75 doing the warg and dead deeds in Mirkwood, and one on my 74 hunter in Gravenwood. I gave the 60 to a kinmate - don't remember what she got. My hunter got a matching set of blue and green potions - no symbol for me!
I found 5 boxes this weekend, 3 keys. First opened box dropped worn symbol of elder king, rest dropped a garbage. 2 boxes left.
I have never seen a box or a key. Are they as rare as stat tomes or something?
Most of us who are getting a bunch (I got 7 this weekend), are doing hardcore farming for them. You MAY see one doing dailies or tooling around, but to really do well, you need to pick a place and kill. A lot. Sometimes it's several thousand mobs before you get one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilka
Me and my partner had the whole Orthanc Couryard for ourselves (empty instance, we exited to empty our invenrtory in shifts) and ... nothing. We basically spent our day there.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyMistress
ut I DID get a key the day before from a worm in Forochel.
You can add .0001% Vitamin C to a candy bar and advertise it
"CONTAINS VITAMIN C"
Same thing with "We have increased your chance to win !!"
Notice they do not reveal any actual data/numbers
Shady Marketing 101
As someone who's trying to collect some impartial data, I'd like notice when the event has been turned off. I'll seperate my data at that point again and after a while do some comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestrata
Well, from Friday to Sunday I did in about 1300-1400 mobs of all shapes, sizes, color and levels and nary a key or lootbox was to be found by me. If I hadn't been doing deeds with all of those kills and getting virtues, TPs and titles, not to mention 30 gold and other various goodies I'd feel pretty ripped off. Also, had I for one second really expected Turbine to increase the rate in any tangible amount, I'd feel disappointed. It was a good mental motivator to grind some deeds with the possible (and remote) bonus of a lootbox.
I was lucky this weekend - in ~5h farming mobs I got 2 keys and 3 boxes.
Got 2 Worn Symbols of Celebrimbor, some regen food and an agility thingy.
OK, I didn't check every hour over the weekend, but I did logon to my.lotro as well as check twitter about 7 or 8 times...the official announcement from quartermaster claimed special lotteries for keys over the weekend...there was not one single announcement of a flash lottery nor was there any regular lottery that I could see (or that anyone mentioned). What gives? Did the support staff announcing the lottery/special not speak to the support staff that runs the lotteries???
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...68#post6026168Quote:
Originally Posted by peterbutt
They're not sure what happened.
So, first of all, yes, I can confirm that the event was enabled and that the drop rate was properly turned up. :) However, at the end of the day, chance is simply that -- chance. Even with an increased drop rate, there's always the possibility that probability may not be on your side. I've had it happen to me enough. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitas
And yes, the keys are equal in all aspects, regardless where they come from. A key is a key.
And thank you, everyone, for the feedback. :) It's much appreciated.
After playing for a few hours on Friday night, and seeing that the drop rate increase was...a ghost-I logged off.
I have looted 4 failboxes that included items I could not use-rank gated (lvl 15 brand). I have spent 400TP on keys. As a customer I was so upset that I called in to the #1800 number to complain about the non usable loot. Which was a waste of time-all I got was a canned "I'll forward this to the devs" response.
Seeing all my creep friends transfer from Silverlode, and now this loot box drop fiasco (and FAILVENT 2012!)-makes me reconsider my next VIP payment very seriously.
You Devs know this issue! Fix it or you stand to lose alot of people, it's not like SWTOR isn't enticing enough.
This is a fun alternative method to acquire rare or unique items....but when it is the ONLY method to acquire ALL 30 of the new Creep appearances (5 per class), the level of frustration and disappointment it creates among players is beyond descriptionQuote:
Originally Posted by Celestrata
We anticipated and hoped that the new appearances would be made available via Commendations in U6, but reports from Bullroarer beta testing confirm this is NOT the case. Mindless and endless grinding of NPCs in PVP Zone is the only way to unlock the new appearances (via Sigils).
Relaying this feedback to the Devs is much appreciated
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...69#post6027069
Thank you!:) You wouldn't believe how fast those key rumors got started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestrata
Can anyone confirm a Lootbox drop since Weekend Event was reset?
Interesting enough I completed the Dunland deeds on a character on my Lifer account (1000+ mobs or so) and not a single box or key dropped.
So jumped onto my lvl 73 champ on my F2P account and got a lvl 75 box within five minutes (about 20 kills). Opened it with a spare key out of a lvl 60 box bought off the AH gotten the previous week .
The lvl 75 box had the red skeleton horse (and some rubbish Will jewellery) so was happy with that. Gave up killing and went to do quests instead (no more drops).
I am convinced my Lifer account is cursed, or has a -roll tag on it or something, because I have the same bad luck doing /rolls or out mining sigils on it. Sticking to my 'lucky' F2P account in future. :)
I went into an area to get a midlevel legendary weapon for an alt. In 4 hours I got a top level lootbox, a key, countless task items which i kept and many legendary items.
What annoyed me most however was that I got zero of the legendary weapon I was after.
Still I cant complain because that lootbox and key turned out to be optimal in its appearance.
It seems to me that the drop rate is still so astonishingly low, that grinding doesn't actually make any difference.
You could grind all day (or for two days strait as I have) and see not a single one.
Or you could just roll up and get one on your first mob.
You just have to be that one lucky guy.
That really sucks.
I remain extremely displeased with the entire "lootboxes" concept.
Define 'properly turned up' as a percentage chance per lootable body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestrata
I remain extremely displeased with the entire "luck" system in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Faithknight
Lootboxes, raid rolls, craft crits all seem to be against you and this is simply annoying, you cant fight it.
You run a raid every week looking to get a) luck that the item you been after pops up in loot and; b) luck on a roll at it. Normally and unless everybody else gives up on it you never roll enough week after week...Yes and you can only attempt your luck once a week.
Lootboxes, they start after you reached cap level and complete all deeds and quests in the end game areas Then you grind and you grind and you grind and you grind and you grind for 2 weeks. You never see a key drop. You get 3 lootboxes dropping in roughly 24h range and all you get is ... jewelery. Comes increased drop rate weekend and you get nothing (but you buy 2 lootboxes and keys and you again get ... (way overpriced ) useless BoA unique jewelery.
Its all about "luck" (random) so i went crafting last night. jewler making westfold hope tokens 2 sets ( 63 and 80) with a couple of hours a part and always on a 9% chance to crit. 1st set was lucky: got 3 crts on the last 10/12 crafts meanning the first 50 went straight way cleaned. Second set got 3/4 crits on the last 20, first 60 went no crit.
I cant make straight 50 rolls until a get a good one and like this instead of keep trying I am really more looking for to taking a break from game.
Yes its all random .. all about luck... all about nothing you can really do to change. Bad habits from me in the zx spectrum BASIC you could "reset" the rng from time to time if you wanted.
EDIT: lets not even go in to the luck with majors on your legendary items...
1 mob a minute for almost 17 straight hours =1000 kills. Thats a hell of an event Turbine hosted for us. And you are a killer if you have killed several THOUSAND mobs this past weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaughtyMistress
Im on your server too and yes the must buy a store key if you want a 1st age rumor was annoying. Turbine got enough negative feedback for having store bought keys to begin with. Now just imagine if it was true that store bought keys guaranteed better loot. Ive seen Turbine do some really stupid things but I doubt they would do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armitas
...assumptions...Quote:
Originally Posted by Followthelight
If I am not mistaken the forges of isengard takes about 8 minutes to complete and you kill at least 12+7+20 (+- pale folk). give a couple of minutes for repair and bag empty and lets say you can kill 40 each 10 minutes. thats about 240kills an hour. If over the weekeend (roughly 60h) if you did 17h would have something like 4080 kills. i believe it can be classified as severall
I believe if you go to the bardavan mine your rate kill an hour can go even higher if nobody else is there.