The ABCs of Player Music Sharing

Welcome to LotRO Player Music System, now with ABC Notation!

What's all this alphabet stuff then? Well, put simply (for it is simple) is that ABC is an ASCII representation of Music Notation. In other words, it's sheet music in text form.

Sheet music, you say? Yes, in all its glory. Not only do you get to know the notes, but all the structure that separates music from random noise. It is hard to use? Well, that depends. If you have any musical aptitude, and can even marginally read and understand music notation, it's a piece of cake. If you don't or can't, but are reasonable intelligent and can read, you'll be able to pick it up without too much trouble. If you're hopeless, you can always cut->paste->play.

So, lets take a look at a basic ABC file.

X:16
T:Wild Mountain Thyme
C:Composer: Uncertain
N:Remarks:
Q:1/4=125
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:C
z4 c2 A2 |G3 G A2 c2 |c c3 e2 g2 |a3 g a2 g2 |e g3 e2 g2 |a4 g2 e2 |d c3 d2 e2 |f3 e d2 c2 |A c3 c2 A2 |G4 A2 c2 |c4 e2 g2 |a3 g a2 g2 |e g3 e2 g2 |a4 g2 e2 |d c3 d2 e2 |f3 e d2 c2 |A c3 c2 A2 |
G4 A2 c2 |c4 z4 |]
%End of file

All of the stuff of the form <letter>: is header. The stuff in tan just describes what song this is. Pure text, pure description, and not entirely necessary.

The stuff in yellow is a different matter. That is important, as it describes the tone and key of the music. Q defines the tempo (how fast). M is the meter (in this case 4/4 time). L describes the default length of a note. This will be important later. K is the key, or scale the music is played in.

Now we're to the meat of it. The music itself. Looks like a jumble, doesn't it? Well, if you take a moment to look at it, it's pretty straightforward. Notes are defined by <letter><number>. If you see C, it's the note C. Since L=1/8, C by itself is an eighth note. If it were C2, that'd be twice as long, or a quarter note. What if you need a 16th? Divide by 2. C/2.

But what's the difference between c and C? It's all a matter of scale, as in, they're different scales. C is middle C. c is an octave above. You noticed the z in there, did you? Can't fool you. There is no z note. z is a rest. Treat it like a note in terms of duration, but no sound. z4 is the same as a half note in duration, but silent. Got it?

So, you understand the basics. How do you use it? Well, ABC files are pure text. You write and edit them like you would text, in Notepad. To take music posted on the boards and save it to your computer, it's a simple copy & paste job, saving the file with an .abc extension in the /Music directory of your Lord of the Rings Online folder in My Documents. To use them, once you're in music mode in the game, type /play <filename> and you're playing!

Well, that's the nickle tour. The official ABC website (see my sig) has all the gory details, a ton of ready made ABC files that can be downloaded royalty-free, and links to software you can use to compose, edit, transform music to your heart's content. Browse around and experiment.

On that note PCGamer says this site has software to convert MIDI to ABC:

www.walshaw.plus.com/abc (Hmm redirects to the abcnotation site...oh well I'll keep the link.)

Whlie www.midicenter.com has MIDI versions of some songs.

I don't get it....

do we need to create the music folder, sence in my documents there is not a music folder

it's not in my documents, it should be in My Documents\The Lord of the Rings Online\Music

Few notes for those of us who are really bad at getting things to work right:

1. This is only up on the Roheryn server. If you try it on normal servers, it won't work. Heh.

2. If you don't have the music folder in My Documents\The Lord of the Rings Online (it is the folder where it saves your screenshots to), you can just add a folder named "Music" there, and that ought to work. You want to put your .abc files inside that folder. So, the full path of a file might be C: Documents and Settings\Computernamehere\My Documents\The Lord of the Rings Online\Music\test.abc

3. To make a new .abc file (which is what you need to use), open up a .txt file with notepad, copy and paste the stuff that you need in there, and then when you go to save file, set it to "All files" instead of just ".txt", and put a .abc at the end of it (so you would name the file "test.abc" minus the quotation marks).

4. To play that file, when in /music mode, type /play test, or /play test.abc (or whatever you have named the file). Both have worked for me.

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Originally Posted by MindFrame

I don't get it....

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And some people will be that way. That's me reading the UI skinning stuff. I could probably figure it out if I really devited the time to it, but what I read there doesn't ring bells.

If you don't get ABC, do what I do with UI skins: use what someone else has created. We can't all be proficient in everything.

You can still "compose" your own stuff if you can't read/write abc. Find something you like, and copy the notes. Find something else you like, and copy those. Put them together in one file. MAKE SURE that you put the sources in the file (Title, composer, wherever you like). Don't claim you wrote it all by hand if you didn't. I've put together a few that I really like, some are simply changing the order of the notes, while others are two or three songs put together.

I can only say that there will be still only a few people who will use this kind of notation system. Music system is still very newby unfriendly. What Turbine did - gave players an opportunity to learn ABC notation system. Now every newb who likes to play music will go and burn their brain on how to write ABC. Not gonna happen. Most of the players will try to avoid this. But then again there is a way to get that file from someone else now and play it as your own.

OK, I'm a Champion, so I'm fairly illiterate, musically speaking. I'm just a brute with a lute.

In real life, I'm muscially oriented, and have a wealth of ABC files and other formats that I'm dying to play in Middle-Earth. Problem is, the instructions for how to do that have...er...let's say they assume a bit more LOTRO prowess than I currently have (a personal problem, no doubt...I apologize for my noobosity). To quote:

"To use them [the ABC files], once you're in music mode in the game, type /play <filename> and you're playing!"

This doesn't seem to get me anywhere. How do I enter "music mode?" By typing /music? When I do that, then type /play songtitle.abc nothing much happens. I keep on fingering my lute (my momma told me I'd go blind if I did that too much), but no music is heard.

Obviously I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out. Could I please have some even more explicit instructions? I'm afraid that, in my case, the "ABCs" aren't simple enough for me. I need to hear it in baby talk.

Yours in all Noobishness,
Graemme

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Originally Posted by stupidfingers

This doesn't seem to get me anywhere. How do I enter "music mode?" By typing /music? When I do that, then type /play songtitle.abc nothing much happens. I keep on fingering my lute (my momma told me I'd go blind if I did that too much), but no music is heard.

Obviously I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out. Could I please have some even more explicit instructions? I'm afraid that, in my case, the "ABCs" aren't simple enough for me. I need to hear it in baby talk.

Yours in all Noobishness,
Graemme

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The ABC support is coming in the June/Evendim content update. It's not out yet, so /play and such will do nothing until it's deployed on the real servers.

Currently it's testable/previewable on the preview server.

Also something added to the June update is a mappable key for turning on/off music mode. No more typing /music then moving to get out of it.

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Originally Posted by AmonaugTruehammer

Also something added to the June update is a mappable key for turning on/off music mode. No more typing /music then moving to get out of it.

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Oh, that's nice - I've just been doing /shortcut 12 /music to have a button that does /music, but a toggle is even better.

Now we just need to be able to play while moving (while /follow-ing) to annoy - er, entertain our friends and fellowships. :)

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Originally Posted by Fayk

Oh, that's nice - I've just been doing /shortcut 12 /music to have a button that does /music, but a toggle is even better.

Now we just need to be able to play while moving (while /follow-ing) to annoy - er, entertain our friends and fellowships. :)

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Only if we get "/ignore ;target" :)

so when you type /play you just play the song without having to type 1,2,3 and whatnot?

When do they plan on implenting this onto all of the servers?

Also, a cool program that I have is Music Masterworks. This program allows you to compose a song (with any instrument really: guitar). Make your own, convert to ABC, and you can play your own song in game! SAAAWEEET!

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Originally Posted by elosefast

so when you type /play you just play the song without having to type 1,2,3 and whatnot?

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/play will (once Shores of Evendin releases) will execute an ABC script and play according to it. The player needs do nothing else.

A couple of conversion tricks:

Broken Rhythyms:

The a>b and a<b constructs are not supported. They can be replaced as follows:

L:1/8
a>b c<d abcd L:1/8
a3/2b/2 c/2d3/2 abcd


Triplets:

Triplets are another construct which doesn't seem to be directly supported. Triplets in ABC look like (3abc

You can replace this with a2/3b2/3c2/3

Adding the ABC music system was a great idea. It takes a little time to learn but is a blast when you do.

Thx for making a detailed post so others can start to learn the system.

Follow the link on North Woods signature.. LINK .. It is a very helpful webpage.

I'm fairly shocked by what was implemented. I didn't think that this would be playable in LotRO ABC with the Irish Roll and triplets. (I purposely left out the grace notes, but I might rework them back in after more experimentation.) While the Irish Roll (~[note] in ABC 1.6/2.0) is simulated by 16th notes, it's still in there with reasonable interpretation, and LotRO even stays fairly close to tempo (which is fairly fast) and fairly accurate after latency on my computer, fairly. (Yep. Noticed the hollow notes, too.)

I'm curious to hear what someone else hears for a piece that fast (live or ABC), though.

Gonna see if I can upgrade the one I have with the (3:1 in it this evening, but LotRO didn't seem to like [note]/3 last night so I might have to get creative again.

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Originally Posted by Northman

LotRO didn't seem to like [note]/3 last night so I might have to get creative again.

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Really? This plays.

M:2/4
L:1/8
Q:120
K:G
C/3D/3E/3 F/3G/3A/3 B/3c/3d/3 e/3f/3g/3


Maybe your tempo was too fast, making the notes too short?

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Originally Posted by Northwoods

Really? This plays.

M:2/4
L:1/8
Q:120
K:G
C/3D/3E/3 F/3G/3A/3 B/3c/3d/3 e/3f/3g/3


Maybe your tempo was too fast, making the notes too short?

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My bad. Forgot to mention that I had A/3B/3=c/3 instead of A2/3B2/3=c2/3 using L:1/8 and Q:1/4=120 when I was trying to tweak it to work with LotRO ABC. Dunno if M:C| made any difference. The problem will be that the (3:1 might be too fast as well. We'll see. Logging in now.:D

EDIT: Ties work, but using Dm (D minor) for a key doesn't seem to work for this one. It played in D major, but I changed it to the harmonic major (F), and it worked fine then.

Okay, I have a problem related to Windows Vista. I'm trying to save .abc files in the game files, but it won't allow me to do this, and says that I should request for my administrator to grant me access. First of all, I'm the only person who uses this computer, and second of all, it gave me no help in figuring out how to contact myself about requesting access. Basically, I don't know how to let my computer save the file, lol. Any help?

EDIT: I believe I solved my own problem, went into Properties and changed some permissions. The amount of unneeded security on Windows Vista is staggering :D

I know it is possible outside the game to play ABC and have the key and tempo change in the middle. Is there anyway for that to work in the game without having to completely rewrite?

Please reference the LoreBook for up-to-date information.

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Originally Posted by Giddily

I know it is possible outside the game to play ABC and have the key and tempo change in the middle. Is there anyway for that to work in the game without having to completely rewrite?

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From what I can tell, LotRO ABC uses the following and you'll be fine if you restrict yourself to using only these in this first section:

• Q: (tempo)
  It will default to 1/4= yet (i.e. Q:1/4=120 is the same as Q:120), and it does accept and interpret other tempo bases such as 1/8=.
• K: (key)
  I haven't gotten it to use anything except major keys only, so I use the harmonic major for any special key signatures (minor, mixolydian, etc.). It seems there are specific types of scale names allowed.
  WornTraveler: I was trying K:Cm, then K:Cmin and finally K:Cmin. worked.
• L: (default note length)
• C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C D E F G A B c d e f g a b c' z (notes)
  z is silent (rest).
  Any notes lower than C, and higher than c' will generate an error.
  
• ^[note] (sharp)
  It does not allow ^c' and, of course, does not allow ^z.
• _[note] (flat)
  It does not allow _C and, of course, does not allow _z.
• [note]2 [note]3 [note]4 [note]5 [note]6 [note]7 [note]8 (length scalar multiplier at least up to 25)
  I haven't tried anything longer than 25 yet.
  LotRO has a maximum time for sustaining notes from ABC (as well as live playing), so depending on the tempo and multiplier, you may get an error for holding a note too long.
  String instruments have a set sustain regardless how long the note is specified to play. While the notes will still start on-time for string instruments, they will continue to play through following notes. This makes arpeggio-like notations sound more like strumming or picking on string instruments.
  
• [note]/2 [note]/3 [note]/4 (length scalar divisor)
  I haven't tried anything shorter than those.
  / by itself is /2.
  // is not allowed. (See below.)
  
• [note][multiplier]/[divisor] (complex lengths)
  I have only tried 2/3 for this (for 3-notes-in-2-beats triplets).
  WornTraveler: Right, 3/2. ... I typed that in for a little song... (editor's: that makes a dotted note for the default length)
  Northwoods: The a>b and c<d constructs are not supported. They can be replaced as follows: a3/2b/2 c/2d3/2
  Northwoods: Triplets are another construct which doesn't seem to be directly supported. Triplets in ABC look like (3abc. You can replace this with a2/3b2/3c2/3
• [note]-[same note] (ties)
  I have no idea what it will do if you try to tie two different pitches.
  Length modifiers are, of course, supported with the tied notes.
  

The shortest length I have been able to manage is the length of a 16th note at Q:1/4=250. Anything faster and I've received an error in the chat box. Still, I've seen others playing ABC (hollow note animation) with faster notes than that. It might be a client-based thing. (Odd. Previously, it was 1/4=204, but tonight I was able to play 16ths at 1/4=250)

It does not accept the following, generating an error in the chat box:

• (tuplets
  Northwoods: Triplets are another construct which doesn't seem to be directly supported. Triplets in ABC look like (3abc. You can replace this with a2/3b2/3c2/3
• ~Irish Roll (interpreted by a rare few ABC players as a stuttering-style playing of the note, very common in folk music)
  For "Toss the Feathers", I originally had: D2ED ADED|AB=cA GECE|D~DED ADED|AddB =cAGE|
  I had to change it to: D2ED ADED|AB=cA GE=CE|DD/D/ED ADED|AddB =cAGE|
  The performance of the Irish Roll is dependent on the tempo so you'll have to interpret it for the situation.
• [note]// (equivalent to [note]/4)
  Northwoods: The double slash // will generate an "unexpected token" error. Easy (obvious) fix is to replace // with /4
• [chords] (multiple notes in brackets that are supposed to play at the same time)
  AmonaugTruehammer: [chords] I always get an line error message or saying chords aren't supported.

We seem to be getting variable results from the following notation (please give feedback):

• [note]<[note] and [note]>[note] (dotted rhythm of adding %50 of the length to the greater note and reducing the lesser note by 50%)
  Northwoods: The a>b and a<b constructs are not supported. They can be replaced as follows: a3/2b/2 c/2d3/2
  Annael: Not sure about that. In my transcription of Ride of the Valkyries, I had used the length shift notation before I read this. However, it seems to work fine for me. Take a look and let me know.
  Giddily: I've found that files with unsupported code do play, but they are very inconsistent. The music will be much better if they are taken out completely or replaced with a workaround. Sometimes the code will crash the game, but not all the time.

It seems to ignore the following:

• Spaces around notes (Note grouping for notes with bars)
  This would normally have been used to show where the bars between 8th and shorter notes would have been placed.
  As LotRO does not display the notation this is moot to LotRO ABC.
  Be aware that these forums (not LotRO ABC) have a 30-character limit for a single run of unbroken text. It considers a slash (/) as a break, but not a comma. It will insert a space after the 30th consecutive character, which could separate a note length from a note if you're not careful when posting an ABC song for LotRO.
  
• X: (tune index)
  It seems to ignore this before any notes, but I have not tried to have multiple tunes.
  It might generate an error if used a second time or might be ignored again.
  This can be omitted completely in LotRO ABC (unlike ABC 1.2/2.0).
  Northwoods: Pure text, pure description, and not entirely necessary.
• T: (tune title)
  Same as with X:
• C: (composer/author)
  This is an optional field in ABC 1.6/2.0 used for displaying or cataloging special information, but it is ignored completely by LotRO ABC before any notes and can be likewise omitted.
• Z: (transcriber)
  Same as with C:
  
• R: (Rhythm/Style)
  Same as with C:, and Z:
• M: (time signature)
  Same as with C:, Z: and R:
  
• S: (source) Meaning from what the piece was transcribed
  Same as with C:, Z:, R: and M:
  
• O: (origin) Geographic origin of the piece
  Same as with C:, Z:, R:, M: and S:
  
• I: (information)
  Same as with C:, Z:, R:, M:, S: and O:
  
• N: (comments)
  It completely ignores these at least before the notes and you can have multiple lines of these.
  
• V: (voice)
  This is intended for multi-part ABC files, but as LotRO ABC does not do multi-voice, it runs right through these and plays each part as consecutive sections of the same voice.
  
• | || |] (measure bars)
  It completely ignores these, and they don't have to be included at all (as implied accidentals do not apply; see below).
• |: :| :: :|: (repeats)
  It'll barrel right through these.
• implied accidentals (accidentals that are supposed to apply for the remainder of a measure)
  You have to put an accidental on every note that is not part of the key.
  For "Toss the Feathers", I originally had: D2ED ADED|AB=cA GECE|D~DED ADED|AddB =cAGE|
  I had to change it to: D2ED ADED|AB=cA GE=CE|DD/D/ED ADED|AddB =cAGE|
  
• Subsequent K: fields beyond the first one
• Any K: fields after any notes or rests
• Key signature modifiers other than what it allows (such as m for Cm)
  It will still play in major, regardless, unless you name it exactly like it wants.
  WornTraveler: I was trying K:Cm, then K:Cmin and finally K:Cmin. worked.
• Subsequent Q: fields beyond the first one
• Any Q: fields after any notes.
• "Guitar chord changes or lyrics"
• (slurs)
• % (comments or program-specific commands)
  This marks the beginning of a non-displayed, uncatalogued comment line in ABC 1.6/2.0 and LotRO ABC. Anything after this on that line is ignored by LotRO. (Some programs use %% to signify some special command, configuration or notation, but it is still ignored as a regular % in LotRO.)
  Giddily: EDIT: Do % comments work in LotRO ABC?[/quote] Yes they do.

I don't know how it handles the following, but I do know they're not supported in /playing and they might generate an error:

• +decorations+ (such as +trill+ +dc+)
  Just interpret them as best as you can.
  
• {gracenotes}
  Just shorten the notes as best as you can. (Don't forget to give some allowance before the notes by shortening the previous note or rest since most grace-notes happen immediately before the full note they precede.)
  
• [endings (such as [1 [2 for alternate endings)
  Since repeats and decorations aren't supported, endings are moot.
• .[note] (staccato notes)
  Just shorten the note and add a rest to compensate. This only affects the wind instruments that have variable sustains.
  

NOTE: ABC can still generate the "Too many requests, Slow down" error from the server. It has happened to me twice. Latency turned on (meaning Low Latency turned off) will give you a performance like what others with a similar Internet connection will hear. Quantization on or off does not change ABC /playback. /Playback performance for other listeners seems to rely on your computer and yours plus their Internet connections (which suggests they're simply notes generated by your client and sent to the server automatically for you). You cannot play notes manually while /playing an ABC file. You can chat in-game while /playing ABC (for things like typing lyrics as you play in /say or /telling your fellowship what chords they should start playing, and you might be able to bind such things as in-game aliases to the hotbars if those are not currently mapped to notes, such as Alt+[#]). I don't know if you can /emote (though I'm certain there would be no animation if you could). I have no idea how to make the copy+paste ABC into the chat box work to play ABC (as was mentioned previously by a dev).

When posting ABC notations in the forums, it might help to select the "Disable similies in text" option at the bottom of the reply or advanced edit screens to prevent the forum from converting certain notations into "smilies". Also, the forums will insert a space in front of every 31st character if a string of characters is "unbroken" (no spaces) and "unbreakable" (not containing any characters such as hyphens that will allow many browsers to move the remaining text to the next line, making the string "breakable"). The forums considers a slash (/) as a breakable character (even though many browsers do not), but a comma (,) is not considered a breakable character. This could end up with spaces between accidentals, notes, octave modifiers and length modifiers. I recommend that you use spaces freely when appropriate while posting ABC in the forums.

Anything else to try? I figure we should try only ABC 1.6 stuff and assume ABC 2.0 is right out.

Great synopsis, Northman.

The double slash // will generate an "unexpected token" error. Easy (obvious) fix is to replace // with /4

[chords] I always get an line error message or saying chords aren't supported.

Northman, great post!!

It just confirmed that changing the Key or Tempo in the middle will only happen if it is rewritten :'( I was hoping there would be a hidden command I could use. Would love to do the Reels properly with them increasing in speed each time it is repeated *sigh*.

Gid

K, so let me see if I am reading all of this straight:


Can't change tempo in the middle of a file.

No triplets?

Dotted quarter note is either (when L:1/8) C3 or (when L:1/4) C2/3 (do these both work?)

I don't have Roheryn on this computer so I really can't test it out. I've been writing some stuff out but having a hard time seeing if it actually works since I have to send the files to my brother and have him play on his toon on his computer.

Also, will there be any changes to the system after the upcoming patch (for instance, allowing tempo changes in the middle of a song)? Just wondered if Turbine had commented on this.

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Originally Posted by WornTraveler

K, so let me see if I am reading all of this straight:


Can't change tempo in the middle of a file.

Correct,

No triplets?

Not directly, but you can mimic them easy enough

Dotted quarter note is either (when L:1/8) C3 or (when L:1/4) C2/3 (do these both work?)

It'd be C3/2 rather than C2/3. Simple fractions.

Also, will there be any changes to the system after the upcoming patch (for instance, allowing tempo changes in the middle of a song)? Just wondered if Turbine had commented on this.

I haven't seen any more comments from the devs (and I follow the postings pretty regularly), but I'd be surprised if it didn't grow some more.

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Comments in orange

I updated the post above with my findings from tonight.

Please find out what works and doesn't and I'll add them until we get an official guide from Turbine.


Off to bed I go again...

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Comments in orange

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Right, 3/2. Hehe, my mistake. I typed that in for a little song (intending 3/2 but typing 2/3) and learned the hard way that one fraction equals not another. Thanks for the clarification.

Oh, and good posts in here. :)

WornTraveler,
I noticed that you have "K:Cmin." in your song here. Does that play correctly in Cminor in LotRO? I know that Dm doesn't seem to work for me as it played in Dmajor instead (so I changed to K:F).

I would check, but I'm procrastinating at work while waiting on a huge file transfer over a terrible network connection.

I dunno, I think so, I have to send everything to my brother who has Roheryn on his computer to actually listen to it (makes testing things clunky). Sounds ok, I was kind of rusty on ABC so I was trying K:Cm, then K:Cmin and finally K:Cmin. worked.

I am a bit baffled. All the songs I have play correctly and beautifully on the test server. I went to Silverlode today for the first time in awhile to visit with friends and played several songs. They all sounded differently and didn't play like they should. I tried checking and unchecking the latency but didn't change anything. They seem to have stops and goes as if lag but in very short bursts. Anyone else have this problem and am I not finding a fix? Other than not being able to play an even scale of quarter notes, let alone any of my songs.....

Gid

I noticed some weirdness too, seemed to get worse the longer I played. It started doubling my notes like stacatto or something, I figured it was probably lag but I'm no music guru *shrug*

On a related note, how do most of you get your tunes into ABC notation? Manually by ear? or do you have a music keyboard hooked up to the PC? I don't have one, so I'm doing it manually by ear, and I have to say I think a Great Barrows run while naked would probably be a bit less painful.

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I noticed some weirdness too, seemed to get worse the longer I played. It started doubling my notes like stacatto or something, I figured it was probably lag but I'm no music guru *shrug*

On a related note, how do most of you get your tunes into ABC notation? Manually by ear? or do you have a music keyboard hooked up to the PC? I don't have one, so I'm doing it manually by ear, and I have to say I think a Great Barrows run while naked would probably be a bit less painful.

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I do it manually by ear to a keyboard first, then to LotRO ABC.

I had the stuttering problem, too, but I found that pitching the camera to look straight down while playing ABC fixed it for me, but I don't ABC in highly-populated places, however.

How do I download MIDI files off of sites without getting QuickTime Pro?

This REALLY needs to be stickied!!

oK So I'm new to this and have some questions.

The first thing is that I tried to delve into ABC notation by converting midis because I figured I would understand it more quickly that way. This seems to have worked, but I have noticed that things annotated as such:

C,,D

don't play because ",," produces the "note too low" error. Easy enough to change the ,, to something else but I'm not really sure what I should be changing it to? Any thoughts would be appreciated because I'm not sure what the "," is doing.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by roballan

oK So I'm new to this and have some questions.

The first thing is that I tried to delve into ABC notation by converting midis because I figured I would understand it more quickly that way. This seems to have worked, but I have noticed that things annotated as such:

C,,D

don't play because ",," produces the "note too low" error. Easy enough to change the ,, to something else but I'm not really sure what I should be changing it to? Any thoughts would be appreciated because I'm not sure what the "," is doing.

Thanks

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The C,, is the note C two octaves below middle C.

C,, D,, E,, F,, G,, A,, B,, C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C D E F G A B c d e f g a b c' d' e' f' g' a' b' c'' etc.

The range in orange is what's supported.

Why aren't the rest supported?

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Originally Posted by Northwoods

The C,, is the note C two octaves below middle C.

C,, D,, E,, F,, G,, A,, B,, C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C D E F G A B c d e f g a b c' d' e' f' g' a' b' c'' etc.

The range in orange is what's supported.

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So should I bump the standard key up to the lower-case laters (I'm assuming this is an octave higher) and then reduce the ",," to "," ? Is that musically sound do we think?

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Originally Posted by Devire

Why aren't the rest supported?

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Because the system only supports three octaves

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Originally Posted by roballan

So should I bump the standard key up to the lower-case laters (I'm assuming this is an octave higher) and then reduce the ",," to "," ? Is that musically sound do we think?

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What you need to do is transpose the whole score up an octave, assuming this won't put you past the high end of the range. It should sound correct, albeit at a higher pitch.

Thanks for this information Northwoods. I'm still rather confused, but you explained it further than anything else I've seen.

I just can't get the Midi-ABC converter to work! Do you guys know how to work it?

I can't get this to work, I have a song, i put it into notepad, then saved it as an .abc file under mydocuments/lordoftheringsonline/music. I go to play it and it says song not found. I know its there though.

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I just can't get the Midi-ABC converter to work! Do you guys know how to work it?

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Don't bother. For the most part you'll get chords which are unplayable with the /play command.

IF you want to convert from MIDI, your best bet is to pick simple folk melodies written for one voice, preferably something like a whistle. That'd start you off closer to the LotRO implementation than anything else.

One thing you can't get around with editing ABC files is that it requires at least some music know-how. It might not take a ton for simple melodies, but you can't do it (well) without any. The nice thing is, what you need is pretty easy to learn and you can find descriptions of the basics on Wiki, amongst other places.

As mentioned, chords aren't supported. Somewhere earlier in the thread was a suggestion for mimicing chords by "strumming" them. A lot of other non-supported constructs can be simulated in supported ways as well. You just need to do a little reading and put a little work into it.

I've learned more about music notation reading up on ABC than I ever did before, and I haven't looked at sheet music since high school (a looong time ago). If I can figure this out, it can't be that difficult to grasp. You just have to want to.

And for those who want to, you can learn more about music trying to create a beautiful-sounding ABC file than you could just typing notes on your keyboard. Figuring out the ABC is figuring out what makes music work. From there, you can go anywhere. Have fun.

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Originally Posted by Northwoods

The C,, is the note C two octaves below middle C.

C,, D,, E,, F,, G,, A,, B,, C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C D E F G A B c d e f g a b c' d' e' f' g' a' b' c'' etc.

The range in orange is what's supported.

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Northman, the c' doesn't work for me. Nice posts btw. All the time spent with ABC has been great, brings back all the music classes I had in college some 30 years ago. Since I don't play an instrument (vocal major) but do know the piano keyboard, playing live in the game was a struggle. I love ABC and glad we have it. A lot of my measures are off in the math, basically because after fixing it to work I am about done in to go back and become a mathematician. Something you are very good at. Thank you for all your posts, they are very helpful.

Gid

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Originally Posted by koraann

I can't get this to work, I have a song, i put it into notepad, then saved it as an .abc file under mydocuments/lordoftheringsonline/music. I go to play it and it says song not found. I know its there though.

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Precisely the same problem here. Help? TIA!

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Precisely the same problem here. Help? TIA!

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You probably had Notepad default extension enabled. Open the file again in Notepad and File/SaveAs

At the bottom on the top box you should see the filename. if it has .txt at the end, delete it including the . prior to txt. You should now have: filename.abc Also, to make it easier, make sure there are no spaces in your filename.

The second box (under filename) has an arrow on the right, click that and choose All Files. This will prevent Notepad from automatically putting .txt at the end of your filename.

Save your file and try to load it in the game. If it still fails check the name of your Music folder. I actually have two music folders, one is music and the other is Music. The game only sees files in the Music folder.

Since you made a second file of the tune, delete the one with the .txt name. You can find it easily by opening a file for notepad, it will default to txt files and you will see it as a selection. Just right click and choose delete.

You can change your options in explorer to show extensions and just rename the filename.abc.txt file. Either method works.

Gid

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Originally Posted by Giddily

Northman, the c' doesn't work for me.

Gid

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That is odd. I'll have to check to see if something changed from Roheryn... I know it worked there (unless my memory has really gotten that bad... which I couldn't tell if it had gotten that bad as I wouldn't remember...).

BTW, that's Northwoods. :P I'm actually from The South (but I had just read the appendix regarding where the Riddermark people came from and the usual forum names I use were either taken or not really fitting for ME). I didn't visit the forums until after I signed up for beta. (What better way is there to experience the game than to experience it yourself unjaded?)

EDIT: Do % comments work in LotRO ABC?

EDIT: Do % comments work in LotRO ABC?[/quote]

Yes they do.

Gid

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Originally Posted by Giddily

You probably had Notepad default extension enabled. Open the file again in Notepad and File/SaveAs

At the bottom on the top box you should see the filename. if it has .txt at the end, delete it including the . prior to txt. You should now have: filename.abc Also, to make it easier, make sure there are no spaces in your filename.

The second box (under filename) has an arrow on the right, click that and choose All Files. This will prevent Notepad from automatically putting .txt at the end of your filename.

Save your file and try to load it in the game. If it still fails check the name of your Music folder. I actually have two music folders, one is music and the other is Music. The game only sees files in the Music folder.

Since you made a second file of the tune, delete the one with the .txt name. You can find it easily by opening a file for notepad, it will default to txt files and you will see it as a selection. Just right click and choose delete.

You can change your options in explorer to show extensions and just rename the filename.abc.txt file. Either method works.

Gid

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It works! Than you SO much!

Any word on getting chords to work? This is pretty limiting on what can be played ... I want my Zeppelin! :)

Ok, I created a Music folder in my LOTRO folder. Now, how do I save songs into that folder using .abc? I tried finding a song that I wanted, cpoy and pasting everything into Notepad and then when I try to save, the only save format I get is .txt. Anyone know what I can do?

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Ok, I created a Music folder in my LOTRO folder. Now, how do I save songs into that folder using .abc? I tried finding a song that I wanted, cpoy and pasting everything into Notepad and then when I try to save, the only save format I get is .txt. Anyone know what I can do?

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http://forums.lotro.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=52

Gid

Can we paly sharps and if so how do we write them in ABC?

NM, finally found a place that had it:

The symbols ^, = and _ are used (before a note) to generate respectively a sharp, natural or flat. Double sharps and flats are available with ^^ and __ respectively.

Anyone out there who can convert some Type O Negative songs to ABC format? Some of the songs I would like are Black No. 1, Christian Women, or My Girlfriend's girlfriend.

How do I get up to the third octave? I only know how to do 2; such as c and C.

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How do I get up to the third octave? I only know how to do 2; such as c and C.

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http://forums.lotro.com/showpost.php...2&postcount=25

Gid

This is the best thread I have read on the topic so far.

I followed the instructions and it worked.

Thank you! :)

Unfortunately, from what I can tell, the new triplet notation doesn't sound like an old triplet. I hope they update it to allow triplets at some point.

Q

ok im stumped, ive been messing with this song for hours now. its 6:20 in the morn and i havent been to bed yet. PLZ someone tell me why the stupid thing keeps telling me "note too low. Line 27 Column 6" unless im wrong there dosent seem to be a line 27? help plz.

X: 1
T:falling away from me by korn
N:Instrument Channel 1
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=104
K:Eb
V:1
I:2=d=f2e2=c2A|Ae6e|=d=f2e2=c2 A|Ae2B4B|
_e_g2f2_d2B|Bf6f|_e_g2f2_d2B|B f2c4c:|
EB,B,/2E3/2 EB,B,3/2B,/2|EB,B,/2E3/2 EB,B,3/2B,/2|EB,B,/2E3/ EB,B,3/2B,/2|EB,B,/2E3/2EB,B,3/2B,/2|
EB,B,/2E3/2EB,B,3/2B,/2|EB,B,/2E3/2EB,B,3/2B,/2|EB,B,/2E3/2EB,B,3/2B,/2|EB,B,/2E3/2EB,B,

bah nvm i see what i did, i saved in the wrong folder :/ but hey im still new at this. what? i dont have to take that from you! im going to bed now!

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A couple of conversion tricks:

Triplets:

Triplets are another construct which doesn't seem to be directly supported. Triplets in ABC look like (3abc

You can replace this with a2/3b2/3c2/3

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I get an error in my abc editor when I put the /3 or 2/3. Just popped in game and I have an error somewhere from Lotroabc which I will try to find tonight. (The (3 just makes it goofy but doesn't give an error in game.)

Anyway, I am trying to get this blues tune to work simply because of all the ones I have tried it was the easiest to convert. But would be nice to trick the system to play what sounds like triplets. Any help would be great. Here is the beginning, where I attempted the /3. Oh I have the rests partway down so I'd know in game when it switched from the /3 to (3. What follows is the original from conversion.

X: 1
T: A Touch of Blues
Z:Giddily

M: 4/4
L: 1/8
Q:1/4=132
K:D

B,/3D/3D/3 B,/3D/3E/3 ^A/3d/3e/3 ^A/3d/3e/3|G^/3G/3e/3 =G/3^G/3e/3 =A/3^A/3B/3 d/3B/3e|=G/3^G/3e/3 =G/3^G/3d/3 B/3d/3E/3 DB,|

G,/2^G,/2C/3E/3C/3B,C/3E/3F/3 =G/2^G/2c|ee6-e|fa3/2=A/2=c e/3g/3g/3 e/3=G/3A/3|B2 ^GB4-B|

E2 ^ce/3^A/3d/3d/3^A/3d/3e|D/3^D/3B/3 =D/2E/2=A/3B/3A/3F/3D/3F/3=F|e/3A=/3G/3 E/3G/3g/3 e/3g/3g/3 e/3g/3e/3|zB/3e/3G/3^G Bd/3e/3d/3e|

z8z8z8
(3=GAG (3AGB BB3|(3^GDD (3B,DD B,3/2^G,/2 (3B,B,E|(3B,B,E (3^A,B,^A, (3B,DB, (3DB,D|(3B,DB, ^G,=A, B,(3^G,B,DB,/2^A,/2|

Gid

Northman, Wow, thanks for all the time you have put into this (and others who have contributed too). I had a minimal music theory training from school (back in the little red schoolhouse days). I had never been introduced to ABC notation. This served as a fantastic primer.

Here's a point...

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Northwoods: The a>b and c<d constructs are not supported. They can be replaced as follows: a3/2b/2 c/2d3/2

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Not sure about that. In my transcription of Ride of the Valkyries, I had used the length shift notation before I read this. However, it seems to work fine for me. Take a look and let me know.

X:1
T:Ride of the Valkyries
C:Wagner, Richard (1813-1883)
T:Transcribed by Re of Nimrodel
M:9/8
K:D
Q:1/8=350
F,|B,>F,B, D3 B,3|D>B,D F3 D3|F>DF A3 A,3|D>A,D F5 F,|
|B,>F,B, D3 B,3|D>B,D F3 D3|F>DF A3 A,3|D>A,D D6:|


P.S.: Funny, my "D" key sig became a grin :D

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Not sure about that. In my transcription of Ride of the Valkyries, I had used the length shift notation before I read this. However, it seems to work fine for me. Take a look and let me know.

X:1
T:Ride of the Valkyries
C:Wagner, Richard (1813-1883)
T:Transcribed by Re of Nimrodel
M:9/8
K:D
Q:1/8=350
F,|B,>F,B, D3 B,3|D>B,D F3 D3|F>DF A3 A,3|D>A,D F5 F,|
|B,>F,B, D3 B,3|D>B,D F3 D3|F>DF A3 A,3|D>A,D D6:|

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I've found that files with unsupported code do play, but they are very inconsistent. The music will be much better if they are taken out completely or replaced with a workaround. Sometimes the code will crash the game, but not all the time.

Gid

Hello, Im trying to get this song to work.

The message keeps saying "Note too low, Line 37, column 11"

Ive gotten an Ewok Celebration and an extended Imperial March theme from one of the old Starwars PC games to work but I really want a Han/Leia song.

Here's the file itself.
****************************** ****************************** ****************************** **************************
X: 1

T:

N: Instrument Channel 1 ... [French Horn]

N: Instrument Channel 2 ... [String Ensemble 1]

N: Instrument Channel 3 ... [Cello]

M: 4/4

L: 1/8

Q:1/4=100

N: Last note suggests Phrygian mode tune

K:Ab

%Han Solo and the Princess

%Copyright \0xa9 1997 by Hawk Moore

%John Williams, arr. by Jeffrey Moore


%Hawk Moore


%%MIDI program 1 60

%%MIDI program 2 48

%%MIDI program 3 42

z6 G,2|C,,G,, C,=E, G,=D =EG|C,,C, _E,A, C2 F,2|C,,F, A,F, =A,C _DF|

C,,F, _A,F, =E,2 G,2|C,,G,, C,=E, G,=D =EG|=D,,A,, D,F, A,_E FG|B,,G F3G AB|

_E,4 zc =BG|=A,2 B,2 =B,=E FG|=E2 C,=B,, =E,,c =BG|_A,2 =A,2 _B,=E FG|

=E3G,, C,,c =B=A|F,,C, F,_A, CG =Ac|_G,,D, _G,B, _D_A _Bc|=E,,_B,, D,E, _G,B, _Ec|

=G,,F, B,c =B,,,2 D2|C,,G,, C,=E, =G,C =Eg|C,,C, _E,A, C_E F2|C,,F, A,D A,F, D,A,,|

C,,F, A,D CG, C,G,,|C,,G,, =E,G, CG, =E,G,,|_D,,A,, F,A, =DA, F,A,,|_B,,,B,,2B,, B,,,B,,2B,,|

A,,,=A,,2=A,, G,,,G,, aG,,|C,,G,, C,=E, G,C =EG|cG =A=D =E=A, G,G,,|C,,G,, C,=E, G,C =Eg|

C,,C, _E,_A, C_E F2|C,,F, A,_D A,F, D,_A,,|C,,F, A,D CG, C,G,,|C,,G,, =E,G, CG, =E,G,,|

D,,A,, F,A, DA, F,A,,|B,,,B,, B,,B,, B,,,B,, B,,B,,|C,,C, C,C, B,,,B,, B,,B,,|A,,,A,, A,,A,, =A,,,=A,, =A,,=A,,|

G,,,3f Bf a=A|C,,8-|C,,4 =e/2g/2C,

****************************** ****************************** ****************************** **************************

Is there a good website for a total beginner to this stuff? Most of Starwars Midi files I have are massively complex (to my eyes that is) so any help would be appreciated.

Just to add: I have no musical composition in my background whatsoever so I find myself at a loss on what they mean when refering to lines and columns in the sense of ABC music/sheet music.

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Originally Posted by Giddily

You probably had Notepad default extension enabled. Open the file again in Notepad and File/SaveAs

At the bottom on the top box you should see the filename. if it has .txt at the end, delete it including the . prior to txt. You should now have: filename.abc Also, to make it easier, make sure there are no spaces in your filename.

The second box (under filename) has an arrow on the right, click that and choose All Files. This will prevent Notepad from automatically putting .txt at the end of your filename.

Save your file and try to load it in the game. If it still fails check the name of your Music folder. I actually have two music folders, one is music and the other is Music. The game only sees files in the Music folder.

Since you made a second file of the tune, delete the one with the .txt name. You can find it easily by opening a file for notepad, it will default to txt files and you will see it as a selection. Just right click and choose delete.

You can change your options in explorer to show extensions and just rename the filename.abc.txt file. Either method works.

Gid

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I can't get notepad to stop saving as txt. For some reason after I select all files it goes back to txt.

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Originally Posted by Silvermane1983

Hello, Im trying to get this song to work.

The message keeps saying "Note too low, Line 37, column 11"

Ive gotten an Ewok Celebration and an extended Imperial March theme from one of the old Starwars PC games to work but I really want a Han/Leia song.

Here's the file itself.
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Hey Silvermane,

Thats a fun piece. I had forgotten about it.

The problem with using a midi to abc converter is that abc does not have the full range of notes that midi does, and then LORTO's abc player is even more limited than that.

The trouble in your composition it the low octive notes, anything that has a double or triple comma after it.

They can be transposed an octive by just removing commas. I will play with this one and send you my suggestions privately.

By the way Moderators, this thread is great for "What Am I Doing Wrong" questions, but there should be another sticky started for "Help Me With This Tune" requests.

Thanks for your imput Annael. :) I still have a way to go before I can make some of these songs sound decent but might as well train myself to get better via trial and error. :P lol

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Originally Posted by Amyas

I can't get notepad to stop saving as txt. For some reason after I select all files it goes back to txt.

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If you are opening a file that already has .txt at the end it will do that unless you change the filename box, and make sure second is 'all files'. When you open a file, at the very top of Notepad it will display the file name. Then, use SaveAs from the File menu, not Save. And make sure the

Filename.abc
All Files

boxes are correct. You can go to explorer's options and mark it to show extensions. But it isn't needed if you follow the above.

Gid

I have been looking at all these wonderful pieces, and yet I don't see any in a flat key. For the flats are they all in there relative minor? If so what about Bb through Ab, in minor mode.

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Originally Posted by falast

I have been looking at all these wonderful pieces, and yet I don't see any in a flat key. For the flats are they all in there relative minor? If so what about Bb through Ab, in minor mode.

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There are several songs in flats and minors. As with all music, if the Key chord has flats and sharps, the notes in the music don't have to be marked since it is automatically known to musicians to flat and sharp those notes. The abc music program also knows this. So, at the top of the abc file is the Header information. the last one is the Key denoted by the K: what follows is the key of the music. so the key of B flat would be Bb, F flat Fb, minors in lotro can only me denoted by 'min' so B minor would be Bmin and so on.

If the lotro music system doesn't recognize he Key you wanted, try to change it to find what it will accept. If no Key is mentioned I believe it will play in C major. If you can't get it to work with the Key header at all, then go ahead and put your sharps, flats and naturals in the melody notation.

Gid

Thank you for the response, I just wasnt sure about the notation for the header, if it should be _ or what. So thank you.

I can't seem to get it to work. I have created and saved selections posted by users and when i try to play them i get an error in game that says problem with ABC Notation.

Example:

1 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
1 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
2 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
2 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
4 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
4 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
S+2 5 S+1 5 S+2 5 S+3 5 S+4 5 S+3 5 S+2 5


Pasted this in to a text file and named it SweetChild.abc

Shouldn't this run as is?

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Shouldn't this run as is?

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Nope. Mostly because it's not ABC.

Ok then i am completely confused by the insturctions :|

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Originally Posted by Caebrylla

Ok then i am completely confused by the insturctions :|

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The stuff in the Song Compilation thread isn't ABC, and isn't machine playable. It's pseudo-note-type-this-code based on the particular keymapping the poser happened to use.

ABC is a specific notation, basically sheet music in ASCII form, and has nothing whatsoever to do with how your key are mapped. It's a language unto itself, and a standardized one with a specification and everything. It's all up there at the 1st post.

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Originally Posted by Caebrylla

I can't seem to get it to work. I have created and saved selections posted by users and when i try to play them i get an error in game that says problem with ABC Notation.

Example:

1 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
1 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
2 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
2 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
4 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
4 8 5 4 S+4 5 S+3 5
S+2 5 S+1 5 S+2 5 S+3 5 S+4 5 S+3 5 S+2 5


Pasted this in to a text file and named it SweetChild.abc

Shouldn't this run as is?

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Here is an ABC transcription of Sweet Child o Mine, that you should be able to replace into that text file you had. Make sure that you put in the whole header part, and the ABC section as well.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++

X:1
T:Sweet Child
C:Guns n' Roses
M:4/4
L:1/4
K: D

CcGF|fGeG
CcGF|fGeG
DcGF|fGeG
DcGF|fGeG
FcGF|fGeG
FcGF|fGeG
dGcG|eGfG|eGdG

Does anyone know of a good site to find music that is already translated in ABC notation? Like with a large variety of songs?

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Does anyone know of a good site to find music that is already translated in ABC notation? Like with a large variety of songs?

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My sig.
Gid

Here is some Pink Floyd for ya. Is there Anybody out there? The Wall Album.

X: 1

T:

N: Instrument Channel 1 ... [Acoustic Guitar (Steel)]

M: 4/4

L: 1/8

Q:1/4=74

N: Last note suggests minor mode tune

K:C

V:1

A,A ce cA E2|

A,A ce cA F2|A,A ce cA ^F2|A,A ce cA =F2|EA ce DA ce|

CA ce B,A ce|A,E Ac ec AE|A,E Ac AE AE|A,E Ac ec AE|

A,E Ac AE AE|A,A ce ce EA|A,A ce ce FA|A,A c^f c^f ^FA|

A,A c=f cf cA|=FA cE DA ce|DA ce zA CB,|A,E Ac ec AE|

A,E Ac AE A,E|A,E Ac ec AE|A,E Ac ec AE|CE Ac ec AE|

B,E Ac de B,G|A,E AB eB Ac|eB dA cG BG|CE Ac ec AE|

B,E Ac de BG|A,E AB eB ce|c'3d b4|A,A ce cA E2|

A,A ce cA F2|A,A ce cA ^F2|A,A ce cA =F2|EA ce DA ce|

CA ce B,A ce|A,E ce ab c'2|c/2c'6-c'3/2-|c'/2

%Is There Anybody Out there, by Pink Floyd
%Converted for LOTRO Music by skidz.

I just came across this thread and enjoyhed the OP. Sounds relatively simple and I'll be giving composing a try here soon.

I have a question, though....(as I hate scaning through pages and pages of posts):

How do you notate playing more than one note at a time? Here's a specific example(s):

How do you notate playing a C and an E at the same time?

A more complex version of that question...

How do you notate playing a C and an E at the same time where the C holds for 2 beats and the E holds for 1 beat? And, maybe even play C and E, hold the C for two beats, play the E on the first beat at the same time as the C, then on the second beat play an F for one beat?

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Originally Posted by Jorel

I just came across this thread and enjoyhed the OP. Sounds relatively simple and I'll be giving composing a try here soon.

I have a question, though....(as I hate scaning through pages and pages of posts):

How do you notate playing more than one note at a time? Here's a specific example(s):

How do you notate playing a C and an E at the same time?

A more complex version of that question...

How do you notate playing a C and an E at the same time where the C holds for 2 beats and the E holds for 1 beat? And, maybe even play C and E, hold the C for two beats, play the E on the first beat at the same time as the C, then on the second beat play an F for one beat?

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Chords are played by useing Brackets ie, [CE] would play Note C and E together. U can write this for your second example as [C2E] which would sound the C note for 2 beats and the E for 1. People have reported that u may get a note aready sounding error doing it that way though, (not in all cases). I have found it best to write a chord like that by using the tie command (-). It would look like this [C-E] C

this way takes a bit longer to transpose a song, but u wont get that note already sounding error.

Hope this helps,

Durinsbane

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Originally Posted by durinsbane

Chords are played by useing Brackets ie, [CE] would play Note C and E together. U can write this for your second example as [C2E] which would sound the C note for 2 beats and the E for 1. People have reported that u may get a note aready sounding error doing it that way though, (not in all cases). I have found it best to write a chord like that by using the tie command (-). It would look like this [C-E] C

this way takes a bit longer to transpose a song, but u wont get that note already sounding error.

Hope this helps,

Durinsbane

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You will get the note already sounding error if you type [C2E] C i think. It seems Lotro holds the C the proper time but counts the measure off the implied 1 for the E. In any instance where you try to play the note that is being held before the count reaches the duration of the held note you get the error. Its much better to use Durins suggestion in all cases with that split timing to avoid errors. Files that are auto converted from midi seem to do the split times quite a bit.

your followoup question can be done as [C-E][CF]

Is there some sort of current thread saying what parts of ABC notation do or don't work in Lotro now?

Seems like some things listed at the front have now been addressed and work, yet others (tuplets) have not, and I'd like to know what I have to use workarounds on.

I guess I'll chack back in a couple months and see if there is any sort of response that I haven't figured out myself in the mean time.

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Originally Posted by Dwarven-Might

I can only say that there will be still only a few people who will use this kind of notation system. Music system is still very newby unfriendly. What Turbine did - gave players an opportunity to learn ABC notation system. Now every newb who likes to play music will go and burn their brain on how to write ABC. Not gonna happen. Most of the players will try to avoid this. But then again there is a way to get that file from someone else now and play it as your own.

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Boy did you blow this call lol!

Can anyone write Maggot Brain by Funkadelic?

Ok, I've spent 30 minutes trying to find a consise explanation of how to play music in-game and not finding it... the posts here are either out-dated or contain links that go to advertisers that have nothing to do w/ playing songs in-game. Could someone post some instructions on how to play a song with an instrument, and a currently working link that has songs to download (ABC or whatever is currently what is needed)? I'm just frustrated at going to the Music category here on the Forum page and not finding instructions on how to play music! Am I obviously missing a thread somewhere? Thanks so much.

You can get all that you ask for at....thefatlute.com


But,

Basics for playing music...

Get/buy a instrument from a Bard.

Equip said instrument.

Type, /music
-or-
right click on your avatars picture, and select play music from drop down menu.

You can now play live music by pressing key's 1-8, or holding down control and pressing 1-8, or holding down alt and pressing 1-8. (note the control and alt may be wrong I forget what the default setting for the game are, as I have remapped mine keyboard)

for playing a song file while in music mode, refer to thefatlute they give a good tutorial on how to download from site and what to do after you have music files in your music folder.

good luck and welcome to the music community. If you have any other questions feel free to post here!

DB

Did anyone happen to mention that if you type /playlist your chatwindow will fill with what you have in your music folder ready to play?

The <name> of the song file is directly to the left side of the line followed by a different color text explaining what you are playing.

ex:
vader The Imperial March by John Williams (time?)

vader will be in a different color, maybe your standard color
The imperial march etc will be in another color and this is what will be displayed before you play it

If you have typed /play vader sync
you and your raid/fellowship will see "The Imperial March" stuff... prefaced by the fact that you will start playing it
when someone in the raid types /playstart.

If you don't see those things in your chat window something is wrong. If it is on your playlist try another song to see if it might just be that song that has an issue. If you dont see the playlist then you probably do not have any correct files in your music folder.

No, I did not read the entire thread. I figure a lot of people wont either since most of the first pages were done in '07 before a lot work was done on the player music.

I nee help I have my .abc files in my music folder but when i get in game / music ..
/play
[song] it asks for /play <song file> [index #] [sync]
how do i get index # and sync ..
PLease help thanks

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Originally Posted by Xero852

it's not in my documents, it should be in My Documents\The Lord of the Rings Online\Music

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I actually had to create the folder cause it was not there.

X: 1
T: intothewest (4:10)
Z: Transcribed by Liberiel using LotRO MIDI Player: http://lotro.acasylum.com/midi
% Transpose: -1
L: 1/4
Q: 106
K: C

[^F9/8z/2] B,3/4 [^F/2^DB,/2^F,8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2B3/2b3/2z/2] ^F/2
[B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2^F/2^f7/2] [^Fz/2] B,/2 [^F3/2^A,/2^C] [^A,3/2z/2]
[^C3/2z/2] ^F/2 [^A,3/2z/2] [^C2z/2] ^F/2 ^A,/2 [^G3/2E,4z/2]
[^C3/2z/2] E/2 [^G/2^F/2^f/2] [^G^g/2^C3/2] [E/2B/2b/2] [^GB/2b/2]
[^c/2^C/2] [B,/2^G3/2^D,4^g4] [B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 [^G3/2z/2] [B,3/2z/2]
^D/2 [^Gz/2] B,/2 [^F/2B,/2^D^F,8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2z/2] ^F/2
[B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2z/2] [B/2b/2^F/2] [^G/2^g/2B,/2] [B/2b/2^F/2^A,/2^C]
[^c7/2^A,3/2z/2] [^C3/2z/2] ^F/2 [^A,3/2z/2] [^C2z/2] ^F/2 ^A,/2
[^G3/2E,4z/2] [^C3/2z/2] E/2 [^c/4^G3/2] ^d/4 [^c/2^C3/2] [B/2b/2E/2]
[^G^g/2] [^C/2B/2b/2] [^d4^G3/2B,/2^D,4] [B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 [^G3/2z/2]
[B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 [^Gz/2] B,/2 [B,/2^D^F,8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2z/2] ^F/2
[e3/4B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2z/4] ^d/4 [^c^F/2] B,/2 [^F/2^c4^A,/2^C]
[^A,3/2z/2] [^C3/2z/2] ^F/2 [^A,3/2z/2] [^C2z/2] ^F/2 ^A,/2
[^G3/2^c3/2E,4z/2] [^C3/2z/2] E/2 [^G3/2^c/4] ^d/4 [^c/2^C3/2]
[B/2b/2E/2] [^G^g/2] [B/2b/2^C/2] [^dB,/2^G3/2^D,4] [B,3/2z/2]
[^d/4^D/2] ^c/4 [B/2b/2^G3/2] [B,3/2B2b2z/2] ^D/2 [^Gz/2] B,/2
[^F/2^DB,/2^F,8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2z/2] ^F/2 [B,3/2z/2] [^D3/2z/2]
[B/2b/2^F/2] [^G/2^g/2B,/2] [^F/2Bb^A,/2^C] [^A,3/2z/2] [^C3/2^c3z/2]
^F/2 [^A,3/2z/2] [^C2z/2] ^F/2 ^A,/2 [^G3/2E,4z/2] [^C3/2z/2] E/2
[^G3/2^c/4] ^d/4 [^C3/2^c/2] [E/2B/2b/2] [^G^g/2] [^C/2^F/2^f/2]
[B,/2^G3/2^D,4^g4] [B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 [^G3/2z/2] [B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 [^Gz/2]
[B,z/2] [^G/2^G,4^d31/8^g2] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2B] ^G/2 [^GB,3/2^gz/2]
[^A/2^a/2^D/2] [^D^G/2^g] [B,/2B/2b9/2] [^d^DB^F,4^F/2^f4] B,/2
[^D3/2B4z/2] ^F/2 [^FB,/2] ^D/2 [^D^F/2] B,/2 [^de4B,/2^G,4^G/2]
[B,3/2z/2] [E/2B5/2] ^G/2 [^G7/8^g/2B,3/2] [E/2^A/2^a/2] [^G/2^g/2E]
[B,/2B2b2] [^F3/2^c4^A,/2^C,4] [^A,3/2z/2] [^A^C/2] [^F/2B/2b/2]
[^F^A,3/2^A^az/2] ^C/2 [^F^f/2^A/2] [^A/2^a/2^A,/2]
[^G,4^d31/8^g2^G3/2z/2] B,/2 [^D/2B] ^G/2 [^GB,/2^g] [^D/2^A/2^a/2]
[^D^G/2^g] [B,/2B/2b9/2] [^d^DB^F,4^F/2^f4] B,/2 [^D3/2B4z/2] ^F/2
[^FB,/2] ^D/2 [^D^F/2] B,/2 [^de4B,/2^G,4^G/2] [B,3/2z/2] [E/2B5/2]
^G/2 [^G7/8^g/2B,3/2] [E/2^A/2^a/2] [^G/2E^g/2] [B2b2B,/2]
[^F3/2^c2^A,/2^C,4] [^A,3/2z/2] [^A^C/2] [^F/2B/2b/2]
[^F^A,3/2^c2z/2] ^C/2 [B/2b/2^F^A] [^A,/2^d/2] [^G,4^d2^g4z/2] B,/2
[^D/2B] ^G/2 [^GB,/2^d15/8] [B/2b/2^D/2] [^D^c/2^G/2] [B,/2B/2b9/2]
[^d^DB^F,4^F/2^f4] B,/2 [^D3/2B4z/2] ^F/2 [^FB,/2] ^D/2 [^D^F/2] B,/2
[^de4B,/2^G,4^G/2] [B,3/2z/2] [E/2B] ^G/2 [^G7/8B5/4b5/8B,3/2z/2]
[E/2z/8] [^c3/4z3/8] [^G/2Ez/4] [B3/4b3/4z/4] B,/2
[^F3/2^c3/2^A,/2^d3/2^C,4] [^A,3/2z/2] [^A^C/2] [^F/2^c/2]
[^F^A,3/2^c2z/2] ^C/2 [^F^Az/2] ^A,/2 [^D,4B,/2^F] [B,3/2z/2]
[^D/2^F/2e] [^F,/2^F/2] [B,3/2^d^F/2] [^F/2^D/2] [^c^F^F,/2] B,/2
[^d4^F/8^D,33/8B,/8] [^F7/8B,3/8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F2]
[^D3/8B,] z/8 ^D/2 [EB,3/2z/2] [^F5/8z/2] [^G/2E,4^G,3/2E/2]
[B,3/2^G/2] [E/2^G/2z/8] [b7/8z3/8] [^G,3/2^G/2] [^G/2B,3/2^a]
[E/2^G/2] [^G,^g^G7/8z/2] B,/2 [^G/2^g^G,3/2B,/2z/8] [E/2E,31/8z3/8]
[B,3/2^G/2] [^f3E/2z/8] [^G/2z3/8] [^G,3/2z/8] ^G3/8 [^G/2B,3/2]
[E/2^G/2] [^G,z/8] [^G7/8z3/8] B,/2 [^F/8^D,33/8B,/8] [^F7/8B,3/8]
[B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2e] [^F,/2^F/2] [^dB,3/2^F/2] [^F/2^D/2]
[^c^F^F,/2] [B,5/8z/2] [^d2^F/8] [^D,31/8B,3/8^F7/8] [B,3/2z/2]
[^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F/2] [^f2B,3/2^F/2] [^F/2^D/2] [^F^F,/2] B,/2
[^F/2^F,3/2^A,/2^C,4^f6] [^A,3/2^F7/2z/2] [B7/8^C/2] [^F,3/2z/2]
[^A^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^G^F,3/2z/2] [^A,3/2z/2] [^C/2^F4^C,4^G]
[^F,3/2z/2] [^A3^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^F,3/2z/2] [^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 ^F,/2
[^FB,/2^D,4] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2e^F/2] [^F,/2^F/2] [^dB,3/2^F/2]
[^F/2^D/2] [^F^F,/2^c] B,/2 [^d4^F/8^D,33/8B,/8] [^F7/8B,3/8]
[B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F2] [^D3/8B,] z/8 ^D/2 [EB,3/2z/2]
[^F5/8z/2] [^G/2E,4^G,3/2E/2] [B,3/2^G/2] [E/2^G/2b] [^G,3/2^G/2]
[^a7/8^G/2B,3/2] [E/2^G/2] [^G,^g^G7/8z/2] B,/2 [^G/2^G,3/2B,/2^gz/8]
[E/2E,31/8z3/8] [B,3/2^G/2] [^f3E/2z/8] [^G/2z3/8] [^G,3/2z/8] ^G3/8
[^G/2B,3/2] [E/2^G/2] [^G,z/8] [^G7/8z3/8] B,/2 [^F/8^D,33/8B,/8]
[^F7/8B,3/8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2e] [^F,/2^F/2] [B,3/2^F/2^d]
[^F/2^D/2] [^F^F,/2^c] [B,5/8z/2] [^d3/2^F/8] [^D,31/8B,3/8^F7/8]
[B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^d/2^F/2] [B,3/2^F/2z/8] [^d5/8z3/8]
[^F/2^D/2z/4] [e5/8z/4] [^F^F,/2z3/8] [^f5/8z/8] B,/2
[^F/2^c6^F,3/2^A,/2^C,4] [^A,3/2^F7/2z/2] [B7/8^C/2] [^F,3/2z/2]
[^A^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^G^F,39/8z/2] [^A,9/2z/2] [^F3/2^C,4^G/2]
[^A7/8z/2] ^C/2 [B/2^F/2] [^FBz/2] ^C/2 [^F^Az/2] ^C/2
[^D,8B4^G^G,3/2^d8z/2] B,/2 [^G/2^D/2] [^G,3/2^G/2^g/2]
[B,/2^g11/8z/8] ^G3/8 [^G/2^D/2] [^G,^Gz/2] [B,/2^g/2]
[^F,/2^A,/2^F^f4] [^A,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F/2^F,/2] [^F/2^A,3/2]
[^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F] ^A,/2 [^G,3/2E^c4^G7/8^C,8z/2] ^C/2 [^G/2E3/2e]
[^G/2^G,3/2] [^G/2^C/2z/8] [e7/8z3/8] [E13/8^G/2] [^G,^dz/8]
[^G7/8z3/8] ^C/2 [^F,/2^F4^A,/2^c4^G] [^A,3/2z/2] [^C/2^G/2]
[^F,/2z/8] ^G3/8 [^A,3/2^G/2] [^C/2^G/2] [^G^F,/2] ^A,/2
[^D,4^G,/2^G^d4B,/2] [B,3/2z/2] [^G/2^D/2] [^G,/2^g/2^G/2]
[B,3/2^g5/8^G/2] [^G/2^D/2z/4] [^a/2z/4] [^G,/2^Gz3/8] [^g5/8z/8]
B,/2 [^F,/2^F^d4^D,4^gB,/2] [B,3/2z/2] [^F/2^D/2^f3] [^F/2^F,/2]
[^F/2B,3/2] [^F/2^D/2] [^F,/2^F] B,/2 [^F,/2e4^FE,4^C4] B,/2
[E/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F/2] [B,/2^F/2^d2] [^F/2E/2] [^F,/2^F5] B,/2
[^A,/2^C^A4^c4^F,/2z/8] [^G7/8z3/8] [^A,3/2z/2] [^C3/2z/8] [^G/2z3/8]
[^F,/2z/8] ^G3/8 [^A,3/2^G/2] [^C3/2^G/2] z/8 [^G7/8^F,/2z3/8] ^A,/2
[^D3/2B,4^F,/2] [^F,2z/2] [^A,/2B3/2b3/2] ^D/2 [^D3/2z/2]
[^F,2^F7/2^f7/2z/2] ^A,/2 ^D/2 [^A,^C3/2z/2] [^F,2z/2] [^A,2z/2] ^C/2
[^C3/2z/2] [^F,3/2z/2] [^A,z/2] [^C2z/2] [E,/2^G2] [E,2z/2] ^G,/2
[^C/2^F/2^f/2] [^C3/2^G2^g/2] [E,3/2B/2b/2] [^G,/2B/2b/2] [^C/2^c/2]
[B,/2^G,/2^D,4^G4^g4] [B,2z/2] ^D/2 ^D/2 ^G,/2 [B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 z/2
[B,4^D3/2^F,/2] [^F,2z/2] ^A,/2 ^D/2 [^D3/2z/2] [^F,2z/2]
[^A,/2B/2b/2] [^D/2^G/2^g/2] [B/2b/2^A,^C3/2] [^c7/2^F,2z/2]
[^A,2z/2] ^C/2 [^C3/2z/2] [^F,3/2z/2] [^A,z/2] [^C2z/2] [E,/2^G3]
[E,2z/2] ^G,/2 [^C/2^c/4] ^d/4 [^C3/2^c/2] [B/2b/2E,3/2]
[^G,/2^G5^g/2] [^C/2B/2b/2] [^d4B,/2^G,/2^D,4] [B,2z/2] ^D/2 z/8
[^D/2z3/8] ^G,/2 [B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 z/2 [B,4^D3/2^F,/2] [^F,2z/2] ^A,/2
^D/2 [^D3/2e3/4z/2] [^F,2z/4] ^d/4 [^A,/2^c] ^D/2 [^A,^C3/2^c4z/2]
[^F,2z/2] [^A,2z/2] ^C/2 [^C3/2z/2] [^F,3/2z/2] [^A,z/2] [^C2z/2]
[E,/2^G3^c3/2] [E,2z/2] ^G,/2 [^C/2^c/4] ^d/4 [^C3/2^c/2]
[E,3/2B/2b/2] [^G,/2^G5^g/2] [^C/2B/2b/2] [B,/2^G,/2^d^D,4] [B,2z/2]
[^D/2^d/4] ^c/4 [B/2b/2z/8] [^D/2z3/8] [^G,/2z/8] [B15/8b15/8z3/8]
[B,3/2z/2] ^D/2 z/2 [^D3/2B,4^F,/2] [^F,2z/2] ^A,/2 ^D/2 [^D3/2z/2]
[^F,2z/2] [^A,/2B/2b/2] [^D/2^G/2^g/2] [^A,^C3/2Bbz/2] [^F,2z/2]
[^A,2^c3z/2] ^C/2 [^C3/2z/2] [^F,3/2z/2] [^A,z/2] [^C2z/2] [E,/2^G3]
[E,2z/2] ^G,/2 [^C/2^c/4] ^d/4 [^C3/2^c/2] [E,3/2B/2b/2]
[^G,/2^G^g/2] [^C/2^F/2^f/2] [B,/2^D,4^G,/2^G5/2^g2] [B,2z/2] ^D/2
z/8 [^D/2z3/8] ^G,/2 [B,2^G3/2^g/2] [^A/2^a/2^D/2] [B/2b/2]
[^G,4^d31/8^g4z/2] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2z/8] [B7/8z3/8] ^G/2 [^GB,3/2z/2]
[B/2b/2^D/2] [^c/2^Dz/8] [^G/2z3/8] [B/2b35/8B,/2] [^DB^F,4^f4^dz/8]
[^F/2z3/8] B,/2 [^D3/2B4z/2] ^F/2 [^Fz/8] [B,/2z3/8] ^D/2 [^D^F/2]
B,/2 [e4B,/2^G,4^dz/8] [^G/2z3/8] [B,13/8z/2] [E/2B3] ^G/2 [^Gz/8]
[B,11/8z3/8] [^c3/2E/2] [^G/2E] B,/2 [^c^A,/2^C,4^d^F3/2] [^A,3/2z/2]
[^c3^Az/8] [^C/2z3/8] ^F/2 [^F^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^Fz/8] [^A7/8z3/8]
^A,/2 [^FB,/2] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2e] [^F,/2^F/2] [B,3/2^d^F/2]
[^F/2^D/2] [^c^F^F,/2] B,/2 [^d4^F/8^D,33/8B,/8] [^F7/8B,3/8]
[B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F2] [^D3/8B,] z/8 ^D/2 [EB,3/2z/2]
[^F5/8z/2] [^G/2E,4^G,3/2E/2] [B,3/2^G/2] [E/2^G/2z/8] [b7/8z3/8]
[^G,3/2^G/2] [^G/2B,3/2^a] [E/2^G/2] [^G,^g^G7/8z/2] B,/2
[^G/2^g^G,3/2B,/2z/8] [E/2E,31/8z3/8] [B,3/2^G/2] [^f3E/2z/8]
[^G/2z3/8] [^G,3/2z/8] ^G3/8 [^G/2B,3/2] [E/2^G/2] [^G,z/8]
[^G7/8z3/8] B,/2 [^F/8^D,33/8B,/8] [^F7/8B,3/8] [B,3/2z/2]
[^D/2^F/2e] [^F,/2^F/2] [^dB,3/2^F/2] [^F/2^D/2] [^c^F^F,/2]
[B,5/8z/2] [^d2^F/8] [^D,31/8B,3/8^F7/8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2]
[^F,/2^F/2] [^f2B,3/2^F/2] [^F/2^D/2] [^F^F,/2] B,/2
[^F/2^F,3/2^A,/2^C,4^f6] [^A,3/2^F7/2z/2] [B7/8^C/2] [^F,3/2z/2]
[^A^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^G^F,3/2z/2] [^A,3/2z/2] [^C/2^F4^C,4^G]
[^F,3/2z/2] [^A3^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^F,3/2z/2] [^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 ^F,/2
[^FB,/2^D,4] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2e^F/2] [^F,/2^F/2] [^dB,3/2^F/2]
[^F/2^D/2] [^F^F,/2^c] B,/2 [^d4^F/8^D,33/8B,/8] [^F7/8B,3/8]
[B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F2] [^D3/8B,] z/8 ^D/2 [EB,3/2z/2]
[^F5/8z/2] [^G/2E,4^G,3/2E/2] [B,3/2^G/2] [E/2^G/2b] [^G,3/2^G/2]
[^a7/8^G/2B,3/2] [E/2^G/2] [^G,^g^G7/8z/2] B,/2 [^G/2^G,3/2B,/2^gz/8]
[E/2E,31/8z3/8] [B,3/2^G/2] [^f3E/2z/8] [^G/2z3/8] [^G,3/2z/8] ^G3/8
[^G/2B,3/2] [E/2^G/2] [^G,z/8] [^G7/8z3/8] B,/2 [^F/8^D,33/8B,/8]
[^F7/8B,3/8] [B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2e] [^F,/2^F/2] [B,3/2^F/2^d]
[^F/2^D/2] [^F^F,/2^c] [B,5/8z/2] [^d3/2^F/8] [^D,31/8B,3/8^F7/8]
[B,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^d/2^F/2] [B,3/2^F/2z/8] [^d5/8z3/8]
[^F/2^D/2z/4] [e5/8z/4] [^F^F,/2z3/8] [^f5/8z/8] B,/2
[^F/2^c6^F,3/2^A,/2^C,4] [^A,3/2^F7/2z/2] [B7/8^C/2] [^F,3/2z/2]
[^A^A,3/2z/2] ^C/2 [^G^F,39/8z/2] [^A,9/2z/2] [^F3/2^C,4^G/2]
[^A7/8z/2] ^C/2 [B/2^F/2] [^FBz/2] ^C/2 [^F^Az/2] ^C/2
[^D,8B4^G^G,3/2^d8z/2] B,/2 [^G/2^D/2] [^G,3/2^G/2^g/2]
[B,/2^g11/8z/8] ^G3/8 [^G/2^D/2] [^G,^Gz/2] [B,/2^g/2]
[^F,/2^A,/2^F^f4] [^A,3/2z/2] [^D/2^F/2] [^F/2^F,/2] [^F/2^A,3/2]
[^D/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F] ^A,/2 [^G,3/2E^c4^G7/8^C,8z/2] ^C/2 [^G/2E3/2e]
[^G/2^G,3/2] [^G/2^C/2z/8] [e7/8z3/8] [E13/8^G/2] [^G,^dz/8]
[^G7/8z3/8] ^C/2 [^F,/2^F4^A,/2^c4^G] [^A,3/2z/2] [^C/2^G/2]
[^F,/2z/8] ^G3/8 [^A,3/2^G/2] [^C/2^G/2] [^G^F,/2] ^A,/2
[^D,4^G,/2^G^d4B,/2] [B,3/2z/2] [^G/2^D/2] [^G,/2^g/2^G/2]
[B,3/2^g5/8^G/2] [^G/2^D/2z/4] [^a/2z/4] [^G,/2^Gz3/8] [^g5/8z/8]
B,/2 [^F,/2^F^d4^D,4^gB,/2] [B,3/2z/2] [^F/2^D/2^f3] [^F/2^F,/2]
[^F/2B,3/2] [^F/2^D/2] [^F,/2^F] B,/2 [^F,/2e4^FE,4^C4] B,/2
[E/2^F/2] [^F,/2^F/2] [B,/2^F/2^d2] [^F/2E/2] [^F,/2^F] B,/2
[^A,/2^c15/8^F/2^F,/2] [^A,3/2^F/2] [^F/2^C/2] [^F,/2^F/2]
[^c5/8^A,3/2^F/2] [^C/2^F/2z/8] [B3/4b3/4z3/8] [^F/2^F,/2z/4]
[^A3/4^a3/4z/4] [^A,/2^F/2] [B,/2^f4B9/2^D4b8^F,/2] [^F,2z/2] B,/2
E/2 E/2 [^F,3/2z/2] B,/2 E/2 [^D4^F4^f/2B,2] [Bz/2] ^f/2 B/2 [B4z2]
[^F4^D4B,2] B2 [^D,/2^f/2B,/2] [^F,/2^D/2B/2] [B,/2^F/2^f/2]
[B5/2^D5/2z/8] ^F19/8

I read up a ways and noticed some people had questions about how to play song, how to display songs, etc.

Download this plugin and never look back:

http://www.lotrointerface.com/downlo...-Songbook.html

Songbook ftw!

I have packed all my ABC files into one RAR file...

Have fun with it

Click here to get it