Naked Adventuring on The Legendary servers
Naked Adventuring; What is that?
Several folks have mentioned this in various threads, mostly in the "Lotro has become too easy" threads.
A few of us noted our experiences and someone (Echoweaver) suggested that we get a thread going to more thoroughly discuss it.
So what is it?
It is playing the game from the start with a character that uses no armor or jewelery.
Why would you do that?
I have found that it greatly increases the challenge so that it feels somewhat like it did back when the game launched. The game is not such a cake-walk when one is equipped this way.
Why on the Legendary servers?
Three things (maybe more) are different about the Legendary Servers.
1. The experience gain rate is reduced by 40% so you have more time to explore/adventure in any region before you out-level the mobs/quests.
2. Some of the old long-since removed quests have been revived specially for the Legendary Servers (Marsh Flies, etc).
3. At least in the short term, no one has a stable of crafters and high-level characters to pass down goodies to your new characters, so you have to get this stuff on your own.
Does it work?
I'll share my stories here:
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OK Onyi, you have talked me into it (finally).
I have been resisting because of the nonsense that it seems to be.
I am going to roll a character on Anor and wear NO gear.
It won't be a big shock to look at myself because I only show cosmetic gear anyway.
I have found that playing as usual has become so easy as to be ridiculous. I have gotten 2 characters into the low twenties and even the Red mobs are becoming trivial.
I think it's a combination of having enough time (due to the slower leveling rate) and having lots of skill (playing since open BETA) and also some recent game adjustments which have either nerfed the mobs or buffed the characters.
I will report back when I hit L15 and let you all know the results.
CHARGE!...Naked Adventuring!
PS, I wonder how much extra gold I'll get just vending everything... probably enough to buy food and scrolls and other consumables on the auction hall, so I can skip all the crafting.
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Naked Adventurer Reporting In as requested Sir... /Salute
OK, I said above that I would report back on my progress as a Naked Adventurer (play from scratch with no gear) but after completing the Intro, I just have to report early.
I died in the Intro.
Yes, I admit it.
I was paying attention.
I was trying to kill a group of mobs for a quest.
I was not AFK, I was not lagged out.
My wife (Reaboj on the Forums) was actually laughing out loud at me. "You died in the Intro? YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER! How can you die in the Intro?!?"
They have revived some of the old Intro quests specially for the Legendary Servers. One of them involves killing 8 Marsh Flies.
Now, you may not believe this but the Marsh Flies are the toughest mobs in the Intro.
But I was doing fine, had 3 down and 5 to go and they were hurting me, but not greatly. Maybe knocking my morale down by 50%, but not a problem.
So, I just jumped at every bug I saw, trying to get out of the intro with a few extra XP.
I took on the Queen. She had a friend join her.
I was killed by a GD pair of flies!
more to follow after I play in the "real" world for a bit.
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https://www.lotro.com/forums/images/...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Happybudgy https://www.lotro.com/forums/images/...post-right.png
I don't get the impression that you re-rolled, correct?
I did not re-roll. Pressing on with Biggly, the indomitable hobbit Burglar.
I made it over to Needle Hole and acquired the 3-man Troll-in-a-cage quest. I was (still am) at level 8. This is a level 10 small fellowship instance.
I was feeling bold and strong and ready to take on a puny troll that let itself become caged.
That was a mistake. I don't think a Burg at L8 has enough crowd control (red line and I'm stickin' to it) to keep the 4 or 5 dwarves off my tail.
Died again.
I will come back at L9 and give it another try.
Reminded me of doing this quest in "the old days".
I have to say, Onyi, I am enjoying this.
Now I have achieved level 10. I went back to Needlehole to re-try the Troll-in-a-cage quest.
They still beat me.
I really miss not having HIPS....
But, I think I can take those dwarves out!
I will not give up....I have a plan.
How about others? How has it gone for you if you have tried Naked Adventuring?
Let us know.
Naked Biggly reporting in:
Well, my plan worked and I'll keep quiet about it to avoid spoilers.
It worked in the sense that I killed the Troll, but unfortunately, that doesn't complete the instance. His captors kicked my tail.
I was revived outside the instance and have to now start it again and;
1. Kill the Troll
2. Get out of the instance alive.
I have more plans.
I am getting close to L11 and I am hoping I can get this done before I level, but it's not looking good.
I tried to get a fellowship together (Naked adventures only) but no takers.
I shall endeavor to persevere.....
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Burglar Biggly Reporting in:
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Happybudgy
This is awesome and makes my day!
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Yeah, we are having a good time!
With a 2-man group we finally finished that instance! It was quite easy with 2 of us (Levels 10 and 7) and we both leveled by completing it.
Now, off we go onto our separate Prologue quests (he said as he adjusted his briefs).
It may get harder from this point on, we'll see....
Burglar Biggly reporting in....
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LabadalofDorlomin
Great Idea and I look forward to hearing your tales,
but you could have done this on a general world and included everybody..... As it is only us lifers or vips can join you in your endeavours...
Unless of course it was the -40% xp rate that you wanted?
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I never considered Naked Adventuring until maybe a week ago. I first heard of it in one of the threads in the Legendary Server forum. We did try to create a sort of Hard-mode a few years back, by gimping ourselves with only dropped gear and no legacy gifts and other things like that, but that never worked quite as well as this.
And I agree, this would work on the normal servers. In fact I may convert one of my lower-level alts on Crick.
Concerning Tales Of The Ancient Naturistaner:
Up to L14 and holding.
Running around prospecting and paying my respects to the various foreign horse-renters, while waiting for my kinmates to catch up.
Finally soloed a 3-man quest but not without significant, repeated recovery costs. The hobbit-in-a-cage quest over near Woodhall.
I am finding consumables to be quite important. They make the difference between success and run-away, run-away, run-away.
I'm trying to stay at level or below except when it comes to the Epic stuff. That's a bit easier in general and I like to share it in a duo or group anyway, just for the camaraderie.
Our kin is growing slowly. We have a good assortment so far; hobbit, beorning, dwarf, high elf. Diverse crafting also; explorer, historian, woodsman and tinker.
We are learning the Virtues are a nudist's best friend.
And now it's quite late and I need my rest before the Seahawks game.
Burglar Biggly reporting in...
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Update at L15 (on the edge of 16):
Waiting for some of the kin to complete their respective Prologue adventures and catch up and then we plan to do the Epic content as a group until it goes Red.
Then we will go back to solo adventuring and help each other as needed.
I am proud to announce that our newest member completed the Troll-in-a-cage instance at L10, without assistance! Gratz Axemojo!
A dwarf Champion.
He did have some visits to those accursed rock-circled spaces, but as a Champion, he had to take out every dwarf in the camp and then the respawns on the way back out.
Biggly just snuck by all those beard-boys and only had to deal with the cage guardians (oh, and the caged Troll, but the Troll was a piece of cake compared to the 5 dwarves guarding him) and Biggly needed the help of the great one, Ursanna.
I did some of the 3-man and a 6-man quests while leveling up to where I am, but they were Blue-quests by this time and even nekkid, they were quite easy.
It may not get too tricky until we get to Book 2 (Uzorr and Weathertop), I have done Weathertop in a group as a fully geared LM, and as I stated in some thread, somewhere...the only challenge was trying to get a shot off before all the mobs in each grouping were dead.
I am wondering how effective a tank will be with no armor. We shall see. I have a feeling we are going to need a Minnie. I hope we can entice a few more naked adventurers to join us.
Oh, yeah, one important thing to report.
We have decided that there is at least one piece of gear that will be allowed.
Axemojo needed to equip the Stone of the Tortoise to avoid leveling beyond 10 while de-caging the Troll. That piece of gear provides no buffs or protections so it's cool to use that.
I only wish that it also halted exp from crafting as well as mobs and quests.
Yeah, we are still leveling too fast...crafting...
Now, it's back to sleep, er, work.
Burglar Biggly reporting in as requested Sir!
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Well, Biggs has reached L17 and is patrolling in the northern Breeland area.
Biggly has an alternative-type compadre that is L23 and has been hanging out in the Lonelands, I think he said he was named Boraxxe.
Biggly is a red-burg.
Boraxxe is a yellow-burg.
Biggly has decided to work very hard at being the best naked red-burg he can be. He will work, and study, and toil (grind) his way to exxcellence.
Boraxxe has decided that he will race to Mordor, find the one who constructed it, and rip the soul right out of him!
....
Our kin is splitting into groups; the Completionists and the Gusto-Seaking crazy people.
/que low, slow music
Onward Tolkien nudists...
/end music
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I am finding that the red-burg has a tougher time dealing with above-level mobs than the yellow-burg does.
And that is a bit weird, because this is the first yellow-line burg I have ever played. I have played many red-line burgs.
Crowd control seems to favor Naked Adventuring. "If yer not gettin' hit, yer not dyin!"
The redline burg, at least at these lower levels, has trouble with severe morale loss when more than one tough mob challenges him.
Two, he seems to be able to deal with, when more team up on him, "Green is slip-sliding away".
Must get more DPS.
Must hit faster.
Must not nod off.....
Our next Epic adventure involves Tom Bombadil and his merry band of wights.
Burglar Biggly in the Buff, reporting in as requested, Sir!
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L18 and advancing.
I have been questing in The Old Forest.
All of the quests so far are L15 (3 levels below me) and seem like on-level quests (based on my recent experience running same class (clothed) on Anor).
Our crazy Go-for-the-gusto group has been running around in Nan Wathren, dying, and having a good time in general.
We tend to just go for it, when a conservative, group-engaged approach would be smarter, but we make no claim of intelligence in this crowd.
2 new members (if we ever manage to be on-line at the same time).
Our courageous Beorning just slaughtered Baugrach (elite warg wandering in The Chetwood) declothed and on-level! Grats Ursanna.
Virtues, Food and DPS.
Get a lot to be the Best!
(Our new fight song)
We have decided that a right of passage in our Kin will be attempting the Troll-in-a-cage instance solo and on level. There is no penalty for failing, but we all have to try.
My red-line burglar couldn't do it.
Our Champion succeeded.
We continue:
Buff Burglar, Bare Bear, and Disrobed Dwarf
Experiment with Naked L120
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Now I am going to try to complete one of the Dailies at endgame. Stay tuned...
Edit after attempting a couple of L120 quests.
Oof.
Yes, I can still one-shot on-level mobs.
No, it is not fun.
I killed 7 of the 20 required.
I collected 6 of the 10 items required.
I died about 6 times before I couldn't stand it any more.
Elite mobs are almost impossible to take out.
I know that if I kept at it, I would have eventually killed the elite that was blocking my progress to get the rest of the items I needed.
But, dying that often takes the spirit right out of ya.
It could be that changes in Virtues and significant buffing consumables would help, but end-game is not for the Naked.
(Interesting fact, with or without clothes Wink's Power level did not change at all. Must be the choices I have made in Virtues and gear.)
Level 20 Weathertop Incursion
We have a tentative (almost definite) date for the level 20 group to eradicate the big bad meanies on Weathertop. This Saturday, 12/22/18 at 4pm PST, 7pm EST. We will meet at Candaith's camp and warm up at his firepit before braving the icy cold winds and heights of Weathertop. Please make sure you are up to the Weathertop quest in your Epic quest line. I would tell you to dress warmly but, really, who needs clothes? :cool:
Maybe we can try groups for some of the seasonal instances after we handle the troll :rolleyes:
A Level 8 attempt at The-Troll-In-A-Cave
I have created a High Elf Loremaster: Greanbud and his faithful Bear buddy Nuggs.
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We shall try to follow Ulfar's instruction and rid the North of this ignominious threat.
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A Level 8 FAIL at The-Troll-In-A-Cave
Speaking of ignominious: This was the third fail and I am not doing any more!
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Level 9, here I come.
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I know when I'm whooped...L10 it is
A Res-Circle can be a lonely place.....
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I failed twice while L9. I don't feel right, just going back, over and over, so I will stop at 2 fails this time and hope for the best at L10...
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Finally at L10, with no Fails!
I did it (I think it's the first L10 with no fails, but I could be wrong).
I think what made the most difference is just the general % increase you get on almost everything when you increase in level.
There were some battle strategies involved though, and I'll keep still about those to avoid spoilers.
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Onward nudists. You have nothing to lose but your dignity!
..Now I'm off to find the next "Milestone" quest. I will look for a L15 3-man to solo on level.
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“If it doesn’t challenge you it doesn’t change you.” Fred Devito
Burglar Biggly, reporting in as requested....
https://imgur.com/5x0PH30https://imgur.com/5x0PH30.
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I have progressed halfway through L31.
Forbearance is begged for the delay in reporting.
I have been busy organizing our kin, Victory's Secret.
And, I am proud to report that after achieving Lifespan rank 7, we are about as organized and focused and productive as the US Congress.
We do have a kinhouse.
It has a tree.
Oh, and some other stuff.
We have been a bit inactive lately. I think mostly because we have all been soloing the heck out of the late L20s and early L30s with various alts, trying to find the "one" that works for us as Naked Adventurers. There is so much to learn.
The big lesson in this experiment is that our preconceived notions about how to play various classes do not necessarily pan out.
We have been looking for that ultimate challenging quest that needs a full group to succeed.
The action is about to pick up.
Naked Adventuring: It's not how good your gear is, it's how to have fun!
Boraxxe reporting....duty schmooty
Biggly asked me to leave a message.
https://i.imgur.com/ZVtHqqf.jpg
He's "busy" doin' stuff at the kin house. With nails and bricks...waste of time if you ask me.
This kin thing he has goin' is OK I guess. But runnin' around trying to fend off those da.. well those danged orcs and wolves and ogres and...well it's too late for that.
We gotta go after the big cheese.
Gotta take the fight to that shadowy spook Sauron!
Yeah. There I said it!
Sauron.
I won't cringe at that name.
Biggly did have one great idea.
Removin' all that creaky, heavy, slow-ya-down armour. Now, that was one brilliant idea!
I haven't felt so free in years.
Look out Sauron.
We are coming for YOU.