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I've cooked up a quick version of what I consider to be a somewhat cleaner UI for the new LIs. The main idea is to introduce tabs instead of displaying every slot at once. This leads to less scrolling and improves overall usability, while allowing SSG to reuse most of what's in place as of this BR preview.
Naming could obviously be improved. Anyway, let me know what you guys think:
https://lotro-ui-demo.web.app/
Cheers
Vastly superior
Yup. I'd support that.
Tidy, concise & elegant!
I agree this is a lot better than what they have in BR. Nice job!
Thanks for doing that. The current UI has to change. This is the right direction.
BUT I would prefer a more informative overview at first sight, because I think the clickable sections are not practical at all. And I would prefer Unslot-Tokens for the traceries instead of 1000 Mithrilbuttons (@SSG). I don't get why we can't get the old LI UI. Just remove the relics section and extend the legacy window and list all of the traceries in that space. Instead of the legacy level you could fit in a little version of the new tracery symbols. At the top section you could place the Heraldry Slot.
I like that look, is simple & organized. I hope the devs decide to do something similar with the new legendaries UI. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightingale
Totally agree the current UI has more MC buttons than actual LI elements. I think your design is fine and it's cool you spent the time to put something together, though I'm sure they will go their own route. Personally I like the framework of the existing LI UI. The most important thing imo is to give us enough real estate and not clutter it with 100 mithril coin buttons. Nobody wants to scroll through a widget in the UI, it's literally the worst design choice possible (I yell at my developers all the time when they produce windows that are too small to navigate without scrolling all over the place).
This is for sure a valid alternative. However my initial idea was to retain as much from the current layout as possible, that's why I chose to add tabs (which is not ideal either, but better than scrolling through a single list view).Quote:
Originally Posted by Degelhil
Honestly, I just hope they make the change before this goes live. It's understandable why they came up with the current design (it saves development effort and $$$ by reusing the existing socket slot panel), I do believe however that the amount of usability sacrificed is unjustified and will be detrimental to the overall adoption of the system. Arguably the LI panel will be one of the most used UI elements going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strider5548
I have no problem with SSG going their own route - I encourage them to create something beautiful for such a core system as LIs. The goal of this was to show that with minimal changes (i.e. introducing tabs/filters) SSG can keep using the list layout while reducing/removing the need for scrolling. I fully agree that the excessive use of the mithril coin buttons is annoying and needs to be questioned.
Much better.
It will be usevoll that some designer devs. take a look at this topic.
I have some dificulty on my moitor to see these long, long list.
The tabbed version is much better
https://i.gyazo.com/f95876a1e6859a0e...8991ab3018.png
https://i.gyazo.com/f95876a1e6859a0e...8991ab3018.png
If we don't get something similar to this I, and most of the players I guess, will be seriously pissed!
Fantastic proposition, Devs if you didn't think of it please implement it, if yes, then show it on the next BR build!
I like the idea of the tabs, will be something I take back to the team. But there's a lot of continuing work on the current UI - it's nowhere near our internal mocks yet, there're still a lot of pieces coming in. They'll keep rolling out, but it'll take some time, and I'm sure we'll have additional work we'll want to do once the latest iteration of the UI goes live and we get broader player feedback.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with in the coming Beta/s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raninia
Please don't forget to add the "Make Uber" button!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raninia
I really hope you mean goes onto BR, not live :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raninia
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Originally Posted by Nubja
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Originally Posted by Nubja
And with something of an art-pass it could look something like this https://i.imgur.com/LIv3uxN.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Nightingale
I like that. It looks like existing UI's for Traits, Virtues, and Soldiers. Definitely better than the UI on BR. I absolutely hate having to scroll to see all of the information. Having each newLI on its own tab seems like a no-brainer, since that's the way the current LI UI is set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallandil
I definitely like the visuals. Maybe it's a bit simple. I do like seeing stats more or less directly. The single button for enhancing/unslotting definitely reduces the amount of clutter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallandil
O.O Very nice, i like it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallandil
Do we have an interactive tooltip in the game tech? One that can be linked also; thinking call outs for "non anon" where you'd like to know if the role is being correctly filled.
Trait trees brought a significant change to our ability to ID possible participants. ILI's and gear gives us a hint to the build choices now but are we to loose further intel if the tech isn't available immediately?
Love the ideas though :)
It's really reassuring that the mitrhil coin mtx bs is already part of the "very" early UI. Priorities
I don't know about anyone else but my monitor seems to be wider than it is high. Do I need to search for a new High Screen TV?
D'Oh! Never mind, found the swivel mount...
j/k just in case that's needed. Upping the graphics to fit the size of some tooltips is pushing the limits of my eyesight.
That is pretty, but i like the tabs style better. Maybe they could a tabs style panel, that have a smoky background with a picture of a playable character holding a weapon. Even better if that background pitcure change to match, depending the slotted weapon kind, but if that is too much for the development budget, a sword sound universal enough. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Hallandil
I just implore the team to consider that there are likely still many players who have a laptop with 1366x768 resolution out there. I have found that there are more and more items that I can not properly inspect, for example the new chest piece (or any of the set armour pieces) then add trigger essences and you have a good portion of the UI off screen. So a wide UI would be much more appreciated that the variable sized vertically expanding ones.
I have the same issue on my new laptop, that is not too small & with fairly high resolution. There are many objects that when i inspect i can't see the whole UI. Need to start doing more UIs that expand to the sides instead column shaped. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Calding
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Originally Posted by Capt.Hunor
fantastic work! love it <3
that looks amazing, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallandil
hope devteam has some extra time to do something like that ^^
Cool designs guys! I'm hoping they'll use a dedicated window for it like the current system does. Anyway, here's my initial thoughts on the layout:
https://i.imgur.com/unTchKE.png
Looks great actually. I'd prefer to see the stats right away without needing to hover. I really hope SSG doesn't push the current panel onto live.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamebeard
That's mainly why I like your design. All the info is right there but uncluttered & organized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightingale
I hope next iteration (whether it is next week or the one after that) comes with some progress on the UI side.
I think it's a good idea that we be able to share our LI builds in the various chat channels, just as we can do now. And I hate the scrolling up and down necessary with the current SSG design. I have arthritis is my right-hand fingers and scrolling has become more difficult and now it's painful too.
Wanna clarify here, while the UI ingame isn't up to our internal mocks, it's not wildly different. We're appreciating the feedback and suggestions we're getting here and will look at them for future iterations. But I don't want folks to feel too surprised when we don't completely shift our UI when this goes live.
That's a shame, but at least you have enough suggestions (marvelous ones, if I may say so!), to improve it the near future, when you will have more time in your hands, because lets face it, your implementation seriously lacks in various aspects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raninia
Receiving communication that it's something actually planned still helps. Removes the uncertainty on "to what degree" there is future tweaks and final touches planned for this new revamp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raninia
It's easy enough to say that SSG is planning future changes, but being able to look and specific aspects and know they're not the final version really helps.
Looks at all the pvp'ers from the past two years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hallandil
Well someone say something.
Honestly, there's almost certainly small fixes that could dramatically fix PvMP experience for LOTRO but it requires system/item developers having a full understanding of how it actually works.Quote:
Originally Posted by SingularityNow
Right now it's been frustating as f***ing hell being told everything is essentially on hold until this LI revamp gets done- and that's because fixes to the actual game require Vastin's input.