Helm's Deep BetaTester Guides on Changes

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Nov 06 2013, 03:30 AM
PKCrichton

Helm's Deep BetaTester Guides on Changes

This is a thread just to help us share where all the guides are that we've been making. Note this is not all my own work but the work of multiple beta testers who have all taken a lot of time to gather information to be shared. In this post I'm just gathering it all up.

Traits
How Trait Trees Work
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ait-Trees-Work

The New Trait Window
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...w-Trait-Window

Trait Tree Guide including Quickbar interactions
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...87#post6990787

Video on Trait Trees
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...eo-Trait-Trees

What Choice Do I Have? A deeper look at the Trait Trees
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...he-Trait-Trees

Trait Points And How Do You Get Them
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...83#post6985383

Trait Tree Calculator (Not fully finished)
http://www.barneybarn.host-ed.me/lotrottp.php

Classes

Class Changes Videos by LotROPlayers
http://lotroplayers.mymiddleearth.co...st-look-index/

http://lotroplayers.mymiddleearth.co...a-deeper-look/

Class Guides
Burglars https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ummary-Burglar

Captains https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ummary-Captain

Champions https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...mmary-Champion

Guardians https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...mmary-Guardian

Hunters https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Summary-Hunter

Loremasters https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ry-Lore-master

Minstrels https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...mmary-Minstrel

Runekeepers https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ry-Rune-Keeper

Wardens https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Summary-Warden

Some Extra Warden Information
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?532207-Warden-12-0-Das-(re)Boot-(Or-More-than-you-probably-wanted-to-know-about-the-HD-Warden)

Class Deed Changes
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...s-deed-changes

Epic Battles/Big Battles/Battle For Helm's Deep

Battle For Helm's Deep A General Guide - A Promotion Guide has been added to this
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-General-Guide

Jewelery Set Bonuses
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ry-Set-Bonuses

Big Battles Tips
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...de-for-Newbies

Big Battle Side Quest Guide
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...de-Quest-Guide

Scaled Instance Loot List - Update 12.1 [Official]
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...25#post7043125

Legendary Items

There are new Eorolingas Star-Lit Crystals, Crystals of Remembrance, Delving, Empowerment. None of the prices are final at the moment so we can't state those.
There are no Level 95 First Ages yet. There are Level 95 2nd ages. The new 2nd age symbol is Flawed Symbol of Celembribor.
Level 85+ LIs that are deconstructed at IXP Level 30+ will generate Level 95 Legacy Scrolls.

Legacies information
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...Legacy-Changes

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...11#post6980911

Legacy List as of Build 6
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-s-Deep-beta-6

Relics
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Relic-Changes

Virtues
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Western-Rohan

Deed Log Tracker v2.0
https://sites.google.com/site/wintersongofarda/deeds

Crafting
Tier 9 reputation costs 90K.
The new shard/flake/sigil/crest is an Emerald Shard.
The new ore is Low Grade Eorlingas Skarn.
The new wood is Walnut Logs.
The new hides are Eorlingas Hides.
The new scholar material are Tattered Riddermark Text
For Cooks there are new cooking ingredients on vendors. A new tier of Honey and some other ingredients.

Crafting Changes
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...afting-Changes

Helm's Deep Crafted Level 95 Armors Cloaks and Shields
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...ks-and-Shields

Housing Chest Changes
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Chest-Changes

Mithril Coins
Mithril Coin Traders
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...l-Coin-Traders

Mithril Coin Prices
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Mithril-Costs

Combat
Understanding Threat Mechanics
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...g-Threat-in-HD

Combat Changes for Gear Swapping
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Gear-Swapping

Travel Skill Changes
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Skill-Changes

Maps of Helm's Deep/Westemnet/West Rohan
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-(Helm-s-Deep)

L85 and L95 End Game Changes
There are no Level 95 Set Bonus Armours.
There are Level 95 Armours that drop from scaled instances.
There are Level 95 Crafted Armours and Jewelry. Look at the Crafting section for links to details on this.
There are Level 95 Set Bonus Jewelry from Epic Battles/Big Battles/Battle For Helm's Deep Instances. Look at the Epic Battles section for a link to details on this.
The Erebor Tier 2 Challenge Deed can now only be completed at 95.
The Erebor Tier 1 and Tier 2 Deeds that required you to be level 85 to complete can be completed at any level 85 and above.

Seal Changes
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...p-Seal-Changes

Loot List for End Game
https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-Loot-List-WIP

*If I have missed any of the information guides/posts any of you have made please feel free to comment and I'll try and watch to update the OP.*
Nov 06 2013, 12:12 PM
Valamar

Thanks.

This should help keep your important listing to the fore...:)
Nov 06 2013, 12:46 PM
furtim

Good work compiling all those links, Chricton. Maybe we can get this thread stickied?
Nov 06 2013, 03:06 PM
Erlessa

+100 rep if possible, thanks!
Nov 06 2013, 04:18 PM
PKCrichton

Added a new thread on Mithril Coin prices for things other than the Mithril Traders.
Nov 07 2013, 12:00 PM
PKCrichton

Added a new thread on Helm's Deep Crafted Level 95 Armors Cloaks and Shields
Nov 07 2013, 12:41 PM
Darlgon

Thanks for the compilation. I thought I had seen most of the new info from Beta until I saw your links.
Nov 07 2013, 01:07 PM
PKCrichton

Added a thread about how the new trait window works.
Nov 07 2013, 02:35 PM
Belnavar

Nice work. Very useful :)

-Bel
Nov 08 2013, 03:24 AM
Calta

Thanks so much for this. So much easier than trying to use 'search' function.
Nov 08 2013, 11:27 AM
PKCrichton

Added a video another tester made for Trait Trees.

Did some formatting of the thread to try and make it a little easier to locate what you want to find.
Nov 08 2013, 02:13 PM
Oldin

Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?
Nov 08 2013, 02:21 PM
bohbashum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldin

Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?

change the colour settings on your screen.

or,

wait 10 days.
Nov 08 2013, 02:44 PM
furtim

All the guides linked in the OP are just-the-facts lists of changes. So, any rose-tinting you see is coming from your monitor settings, as bohbashum suggests.
Nov 08 2013, 02:53 PM
PKCrichton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldin

Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?

As bohbashum and furtim stated these guides are the straight up facts about what exists. The comments there after are not rose colored glasses at all but what people have actually experienced. Yes the classes are not perfect. Yes we have all lost some things we have had for years but for the most part there are a lot of good changes in here. We still hope to fine tune them and get some of those lost aspects that we all find necessary to given roles added back in if not for launch then hopefully for an update later on.
Nov 08 2013, 02:59 PM
Darlgon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldin

Where do i view the class changes that aren't viewed through rose-colored glasses?

Grtz, you made me laugh.. This player community reaction is so bad its getting to be funny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bohbashum

change the colour settings on your screen.

or,

wait 10 days.

Sad, but true.
Nov 08 2013, 09:16 PM
Gedachtnis

Trait Tree Guide including Quickbar interactions
Nov 10 2013, 05:54 PM
PKCrichton

Added a thread with the Big Battle Jewelry Set Bonuses.
Nov 11 2013, 03:59 AM
Gilean-EU

Here's list of legacies for all classes based on Beta 6:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-s-Deep-beta-6
Nov 11 2013, 04:03 AM
robbie1435

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKCrichton

Added a thread with the Big Battle Jewelry Set Bonuses.

The link the the BB Jewelry Set Bonuses redirects to the forum homepage, probably a glitch.
Nov 11 2013, 06:21 AM
Calta

For those who missed it-the OP has provided us with a continually updated list, by topic set out under headings, of all links to player guide forum threads. This should be top of page 1. ./beg
Nov 11 2013, 09:11 AM
PKCrichton

Could Someone At Turbine Please Sticky This Thread!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilean-EU

Here's list of legacies for all classes based on Beta 6:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthr...-s-Deep-beta-6

Updated the list with your thread. Thanks.

Also updated the LI information as 85 LIs will generate 95 Legacy scrolls now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbie1435

The link the the BB Jewelry Set Bonuses redirects to the forum homepage, probably a glitch.

This appears to be working for me. My guess is as you said simply a glitch.

BTW to those posting their thread links in here Thank You. It takes time to sort through all the different places we have to post thread that I'm sure some are missed here and there.
Nov 11 2013, 09:16 AM
Darlgon

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKCrichton

This appears to be working for me. My guess is as you said simply a glitch.

Nope.. goes nowhere (forum home page) for me too. Probably 1.) the page is in your cache or 2.) because Turbine is redoing the stats and that is mis-information so they deleted the thread.
Nov 11 2013, 09:22 AM
PKCrichton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlgon

Nope.. goes nowhere (forum home page) for me too. Probably 1.) the page is in your cache or 2.) because Turbine is redoing the stats and that is mis-information so they deleted the thread.

lol ok i know what the issue is I"ll see about fixing it.
Nov 11 2013, 10:04 AM
Tobias_R

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKCrichton

Also updated the LI information as 85 LIs will generate 95 Legacy scrolls now.

Thanks for this! Great news, really apprechiated.

Does it also work on already extracted 85-legacies? (In which case my incredible lazines in vault-cleaning before expansions finally would pay off...:p)

Regards
/T

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