Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
Not off-thread at all! There are books like this available from your trainer, also there are upgrades every 10 levels, so when you get to level 30, go to the auction house and look under the Class Items tab, then look under Hunter Items. You want the Tome of the Wind-Rider. Whenever you upgrade, go for the Tomes, they are the Critical Success of the recipes that the scholars make.
Hope this helps! Post if you need more help!
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
If you see your tank getting hammered by several mobs and he looks like he's gonna die, don't be afraid to use rain of arrows, even if you grab all the aggro, you'll be surprised at how survivable you can be when you pour on the dps. I did this on the Retaking Weathertop instance, and I can't tell you how many times I kept the tank from wiping because he had 6 mobs on him.
By the way, How do I get my main character to appear under my post?
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
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Cappyman
If you see your tank getting hammered by several mobs and he looks like he's gonna die, don't be afraid to use rain of arrows, even if you grab all the aggro, you'll be surprised at how survivable you can be when you pour on the dps. I did this on the Retaking Weathertop instance, and I can't tell you how many times I kept the tank from wiping because he had 6 mobs on him.
By the way, How do I get my main character to appear under my post?
Sounds to me like your healer wasns't keeping up with the tank, or was busy having to heal others besides the tank. The hunter shouldn't have to grab aggro from the tank, and if he did to keep the tank from dying, then something was going wrong with the healing, but that may not have been the healer's fault.
RoA from a hunter in a group setting should almost never happen. It's been the cause of many a group wipe and some of the bad names hunters are called.
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Thank you!
As far as healers are concerned, we didn't have one, so with 6 mobs on a tank, concidering i had the ability to dps all of them when my guard was at 500 morale from 1,500 I only grabbed aggro from 4, and we were more than able to handle them. My point is, though it isn't always (and by isn't always I mean almost never) a good idea to use RoA, you can contribute to the suvivability of a group through your dps, cuz I guarantee a mob will do less damage dead, but, AS ALWAYS, discretion is needed on where you dump damage onto. I guess that would be my "1" tip
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
Learn to use Triple Traps! They're wonderful for managing group pulls, and can mean easy control and take-downs of higher level mobs (ie: pull the mob into the first trap, step away, hit hard to pull into the second, and repeat for the third). Used in co-ordination with Bard's Arrow, Rain of Thorns, and Cry of the Predator, you will be a master of the solo questing world.
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
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Cappyman
Thank you!
As far as healers are concerned, we didn't have one, so with 6 mobs on a tank, concidering i had the ability to dps all of them when my guard was at 500 morale from 1,500 I only grabbed aggro from 4, and we were more than able to handle them. My point is, though it isn't always (and by isn't always I mean almost never) a good idea to use RoA, you can contribute to the suvivability of a group through your dps, cuz I guarantee a mob will do less damage dead, but, AS ALWAYS, discretion is needed on where you dump damage onto. I guess that would be my "1" tip
What is RoA?
Btw i've missed using the traps skills until lvl 45. What is the fastest way to gain lvl on this skills?
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christianh
What is RoA?
Btw i've missed using the traps skills until lvl 45. What is the fastest way to gain lvl on this skills?
RoA is Rain of Arrows, the 3-focus area of affect damage shot. To level your trap skills... you have to use them. No other way around it. Just keep using them every cooldown until you're done for the day. Although I think the store has some buff you can buy to allow each use to count as two, and to go over the daily limit.
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
This is just a simple trick ive learned but when soloing against a tough boss use triple traps but set them up so that the traps are 1 behind the other facing the enemy thisll give you more time to dish out the ranged damage as they get caught in first 1 trap and then the next also you can add doing rain of thorns to this for just that much more time but be carefull as you may draw aggro from unwanted sources when using RoA
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
I've figured a quick way to take care of harder mobs for you mid-high levels out there.
1.Gather Focus
2.Heart Seeker
3.Hunter's Art*
4.Improved Swift Bow
5.Merciful Shot**
This works well for taking down one mob at a time, there are some modifications you can make like putting a trap or using RoT or Distracting Shot when taking on multiple mobs.
*I like to use this while in Precision Stance so it's harder for them to block my swift bow, but if you need that +5% ranged damage, go right ahead and use it in Strength Stance
**Use this only if needed, because you might need it in a second if you accidentally pull another mob.
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Split up your skills into groups, Melee attacks, ranged attacks and attacks that attack more than one enemy at a time (nothing worse than using this by accedent and gaining another enemy attacking you)
Don't use strength in a fellowship, even if the players are much higher level i have always get so much threat with this that i become a meat shield.
begin the attack as far away as it allows you to, your best attacks are obviously ranged, so the further away you are the more attacks you can get in until they manage to get close enough to use melee
If you have to chose between attacking the archer or melee enemy i would recommend always choosing the archer, your attacks aren't interrupted for as long as a little ####### using melee.
Always use your traps - for the deed and a little extra help in attacks
Never run in for the obvious kill, I tend to attack every enemy who is on his own from a distance before killing the ones i need or the ones in a group. You don't want anyone running in to your current fight or your attacks are going to keep being interrupted by a mass attack and you will just be butchered.
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Sifgred
This is just a simple trick ive learned but when soloing against a tough boss use triple traps but set them up so that the traps are 1 behind the other facing the enemy thisll give you more time to dish out the ranged damage as they get caught in first 1 trap and then the next also you can add doing rain of thorns to this for just that much more time but be carefull as you may draw aggro from unwanted sources when using RoA
You can't set up more than one trap in one go can you? :S
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RachelSophia
You can't set up more than one trap in one go can you? :S
Yes, if you can if you have the one's that are crafted.
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RachelSophia
You can't set up more than one trap in one go can you? :S
It is one crafted trap that sets three traps simultaneously. They are advising one to do this so the victim walks through all three traps rather than perpendicular in which they only walk through one or two.
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
Hi.
Is there some sort of optional setting you need to use to be able to fire whilst moving??
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Hi.
Is there some sort of optional setting you need to set to be able to fire whilst moving??
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beast168
Hi.
Is there some sort of optional setting you need to set to be able to fire whilst moving??
Most of the hunter's skills and shots have inductions on them. That means that they take a certain amount of time to fire (i.e. it takes about a second or two for a swift bow to fire). During that induction time you can not move from the spot you started the skill on, though you can turn in place. Additionally if you are hit during that time it will delay the skill even more. If you move, the skill is stopped entirely and will act like you never hit the button to start it.
There are a couple of skills that do not have inductions (e.g. Power Shot), but they will require focus to use, meaning you had to use inductions skills or other skills to build the focus first. When you move you will start to lose focus. In other words for a hunter there usually isn't going to be much kiting. If you are, you will get the base auto attack that will shoot, but it will usually miss.
There are ways to kite though. Many of your skills have slows on them (e.g. Barbed Arrow, Hamstring, and if you're in Strength Stance then Quick Shot will). You also have traps to hold mobs. This will allow you to hit htem with a slow, then retreat to a distance from the mob where you can use the induction skills safely.
In all honesty though, most of the time it's easier to just hold your ground and finish the mob off. You can still use bow skills up close and personal, though they might get delayed a little bit from getting hit (don't try if you've got several mobs on you). For a hunter at least, unless you're trying to solo an elite or something like that, it's going to usually be quicker to stay your ground and kill them rather than slow them/ run, and lose your focus and ability to build it while running.
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sirwillow
Most of the hunter's skills and shots have inductions on them. That means that they take a certain amount of time to fire (i.e. it takes about a second or two for a swift bow to fire). During that induction time you can not move from the spot you started the skill on, though you can turn in place. Additionally if you are hit during that time it will delay the skill even more. If you move, the skill is stopped entirely and will act like you never hit the button to start it.
There are a couple of skills that do not have inductions (e.g. Power Shot), but they will require focus to use, meaning you had to use inductions skills or other skills to build the focus first. When you move you will start to lose focus. In other words for a hunter there usually isn't going to be much kiting. If you are, you will get the base auto attack that will shoot, but it will usually miss.
There are ways to kite though. Many of your skills have slows on them (e.g. Barbed Arrow, Hamstring, and if you're in Strength Stance then Quick Shot will). You also have traps to hold mobs. This will allow you to hit htem with a slow, then retreat to a distance from the mob where you can use the induction skills safely.
In all honesty though, most of the time it's easier to just hold your ground and finish the mob off. You can still use bow skills up close and personal, though they might get delayed a little bit from getting hit (don't try if you've got several mobs on you). For a hunter at least, unless you're trying to solo an elite or something like that, it's going to usually be quicker to stay your ground and kill them rather than slow them/ run, and lose your focus and ability to build it while running.
Good explanation! To the originator of the question, slows and traps are certainly the way to start fights, but if the mob actually makes it to you, you will need a way to take care of him. I would advise using the Resolute Aim trait, which is in the Huntsman traitline. The trait is earned by using Needful Haste a certain number of times. The trait makes Needful Haste give you a buff that prevents knockback of your inductions, i.e. you will smoothly fire off your induction skills without damage making it take longer.
By the way, to clarify the previous post (which was good!), the skills' names Power Shot is actually Penetrating Shot and Hamstring is actually Low Cut. Hamstring is the equivalent of Low Cut for Champions, (except Low Cut is a few targets in front of you), which is probably where the poster got it. :)
Both Penetrating Shot and Blood Arrow can be used on the run, btw.
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rewrando5
Good explanation! To the originator of the question, slows and traps are certainly the way to start fights, but if the mob actually makes it to you, you will need a way to take care of him. I would advise using the Resolute Aim trait, which is in the Huntsman traitline. The trait is earned by using Needful Haste a certain number of times. The trait makes Needful Haste give you a buff that prevents knockback of your inductions, i.e. you will smoothly fire off your induction skills without damage making it take longer.
By the way, to clarify the previous post (which was good!), the skills' names Power Shot is actually Penetrating Shot and Hamstring is actually Low Cut. Hamstring is the equivalent of Low Cut for Champions, (except Low Cut is a few targets in front of you), which is probably where the poster got it. :)
Both Penetrating Shot and Blood Arrow can be used on the run, btw.
Thanks for the corrections. I hate when I forget the proper names of skills. Penetrating Shot I absolutely should know, and always forget the right name (I just call is PS or #4 since that's the quickslot it's in. hehe) And yes, I had been playing my champ, hence the confusion over Low Cut/ Hamstring. Even the icon is very similar for the skills.
Good point about the trait as well. I don't have that trait slotted, which is why I didn't remember that point. Thanks for filling in a couple of those blanks I left. :)
Re: Feedback: New Player Tips for Hunters
My honest best tip for playing hunter i lead raids.. there is no better class for doing so in my opinion .
learn all the other classes strengths and weaknesses and show them who is boss.
WE can stand back and see all on an apparently simple class and see how each instance works if we get it right who is the tardXD. my one piece of advice :).
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From one beginner to another (beginner being new to the game in general, let alone this class):
Set trap is your best friend. Period. Well at least for solo play, not sure about fellowship, as I haven't made up my mind about if or who to join.
I forgot about it until I started reading this through, I even had it set as one of the first in my main line of skills. But using it, most targets don't have a chance to get to you especially if you set the trap, then move back a little bit before you engage the target. This is at low levels, I'm only level 11, but it works wonders. It especially helps hold off one target, when you want to pick off multiple targets, or you have no choice but to do so.
I have things set up in a line, and usually forget about the stances, but my line is trap>quick shot (I think that's the name)>swift shot>penetrating shot. I haven't had much chance so far to worry about melee, and tend not to even bother with it even when I should.
As far as I've seen in this thread though, most of it's been geared toward fellowship play, rather than solo, so just thought I'd toss this in there.