Search:

As a hypothetical: let's assume the devs are going to make similar appearance updates to the other races. Now, if player representation and identity are all-important, then how do you think the...

It's not as if it's just movies, people have been doing that for more than sixteen hundred years so it's just traditional.

Because the world is very different nowadays, and you really need to turn the clock back. If you're having to trek around on foot, distance and natural barriers are a huge deal. Deserts, big rivers,...

Nobody said they did. I've said repeatedly that it's obviously not literal (and that should be so obvious given the context that I shouldn't even need to say it) but you keep going on and on as if...

Gondor had been largely isolated from the East and South for a long time (like the thousand years since it had held Umbar) and wasn't on friendly terms with them, and diversity doesn't stay static on...

And yet that's what he says that they essentially are, so you're just being pedantic: it doesn't have to be literal for there to be a direct and purposeful resemblance. The Shire's based on rural...

What's that got to do with the point I made? They're not going to learn anything about diversity and inclusion unless it were actually reflected in the game's story in some meaningful, relevant way....

Yes, but different groups of *actually* diverse people rather than fake-diverse ones based on the sort of modern diversity that nowhere in Middle-earth would have. So that's misapplying the message...

They're not going to learn anything about it if it's fake. Like the way the game has done it, with it not being connected to anything or in any way realistic within the setting but just being there...

I said 'English' and I meant 'English' to show it's not literal, since of course they aren't. But Tokien just plain up said English, and he should know: that's who he meant them to resemble and he...

It's weird and unimmersive by design, now, which it wasn't before.

In ancient China, just how many Europeans do you think there might have been just walking around? I picked that example for a...

Yes, some. But in my experience, while there may be 'that guy' who'll think it's weird and say so, most players have no problem with it.


Okay, but what SSG have now done is to treat that as the...

Actual RP isn't the point there. The RPG concept is that you're playing as a character, a made-up person, typically in a made-up setting and scenario. That made-up person has their own identity, as...

Nothing you say here has anything to do with what I just said. I already posted a direct quote from Tolkien saying that the hobbits were imagined as 'just rustic English people, made small' and...

Nobody's 'invalidated' if they can't directly reflect their RL identity in a roleplaying game. <--- Do you even understand the concept?

I take it that you're posting like this just for the sake of having a go. Look back at the point I was making: hobbits were imagined as being essentially 'English' country folk. Does anything about...

"The Hobbits are just rustic English people, made small in size because it reflects the generally small reach of their imagination."

- Tolkien

I'll just leave that there...

Hobbits were inspired by English country folk from around the time of Queen Victoria's Diamond Jubilee (that's Tolkien's own word on that - it reflects his own childhood memories of living in an...

The thing about darkness and those beings living underground is symbolism associated with death. Like the skin of corpses blackens as they decay and no living person is that colour. It was the sort...

Yeah, okay, but you were talking as if some scrap of text would make it all okay. If what you meant was that they could at least have made some minimal effort to fit it in rather than just "and now...

There was actually quite a bit of comment about hobbit LMs at the time, because it's such a direct loreLOL, stuff Tolkien kind of thing (one of the most obvious examples of them just not caring what...

To you, perhaps, but for those of us who know our lore and where Tolkien got his inspirations from we'd basically have to forget the lot to make that true.

- Elves are from Northern European myth...

Was it, now. Hobbit LMs? Where was the rationale there?


More like a next logical step further down the spiral because if you accept the idea that the so-called 'characters' are 'really' just...

Who said it was? Oh, and player confusion about the difference between an avatar and a character has been around longer than the game has - how has it suddenly become crucial to forget what a...

I wasn't talking about that, if you look. Try to keep up.