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From a PvE perspective, in recent instanced content, I don't think this is much of a problem. For whatever reason, Bosses rarely Crit in new content, Big hits can rarely be BPEd, mob groups will be...

The best part is, you login, walk to barter guy, barter for earrings, slot earrings, done! Gear sorted, 2 min after logging in. What a sense of achievement.

New 340 level earrings... not worth the effort unless you didn't bother with 337 stuff.

We have 345 Jewelry coming in N Mirkwood. Save your ash.

What support are Champions offering these days? Last time I looked even cappy pet armour debuff is better than rend.

Just to state the obvious massive problem at the moment. In a raid setting with LM, RK and such, you can debuff a bosses Fire Mits to almost nothing. Classes unable do fire damage (melee) are then...

If Champs can move and shoot from 40 metres away, sure...

If all classes were brought in closer, as they should be, then yes, more will be viable for the raid as it should be. I don't want champs...

Current Boss 3 T2C Abyss Groups:

Guard Tank
Cappy Tank
2 Minis
Burg
Loremaster
Cappy
4 Hunters
1 Runekeeper

No, if they trait yellow they would do nice AOE. When traited Red AOE is poor.

So in answer to your question, if somehow Champs could achieve the same ST DPS as Hunters. The Hunters would still...

In a raid setting, like the Abyss of Mordath, the champion would get lower ST DPS than the Hunter.

I don't disagree with you, and Beornings and Wardens are in a similarly bad place at the moment.

There is just far too much disparity in DPS and heals between classes. As has been stated...

This thread is a total embarrassment, I feel for the devs who only have this type of feedback to trawl through to work out what is wrong and needs fixing. Who cares if Champ AOE is good.
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First 15 minutes are just tedious, last 5 minutes the action hots up. I actually think the most difficult part of the fight is staying focused for when the real mechanics start.

As for the 25...

I would rather they just brought in new gear with the same bonus. In this type of game it is never a great idea to have timeless gear no longer available to new players.

Ideally they would push the bonus into the trait trees somewhere.

Why should only Dremob-1, Gorelal, and whoever else on other servers has this low level item be more viable for the raid due to old obsolete gear that new players cannot obtain. For a long time this...

As this is the case can I recommend something from the following:

1) Remove these items from the game as they offer an unfair advantage (in warden's case, the bonus is the difference between the...

I fail to see a problem here - MMOs have a long history of exploited Server Firsts, and SSG have given tacit approval to server switching for a Server First.

Faded switched servers for a title,...

Given we get armour upgrades every two months now, this is hardly worth worrying about. The captain sets have such worthless set bonuses they will be trash in Feb.

It has been obvious for a long time that the Champion has been on the decline. The main melee dps class had been entirely reliant on Rend debuff for a place in groups from around the time we hit 105...

congrats? raid fully beat before most players even home from work, well done DEVs :(

(and the kin helping them set difficulty - well done for ruining the raid)

You can hand it to Portal who are discussing difficulty with the DEVs... :rolleyes:

Champs are in an awful place right now:


Painful in the new instances
ST DPS is miles behind Hunters and Runekeepers
Rend is no longer a deal breaker
Melee
First impressions of the new...

Why would the raid be 200 Shadow, when available gear for barter will be 280 Light. CoS was 150 Shadow on BR, 200 on release.

The level 345 stuff, with set bonuses, is going to be locked behind the T2 deed.

The other stuff, 18 loE incomparable, is likely to be REQUIRED to enter the raid. (If they start at base 250 LoE,...

I understand why they loot lock Naerband.... loads of kins and pugs have been farming that instance like hell, getting masses of Ash in the process.