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    Why do you play the Burglar?


    Reason for topic: So that we have a topic to show to people in the future if they're considering playing this class.


    What made you try out the Burglar? What are some of the things you love about the Burglar? Are there certain characteristics that stand out from other classes that you like?, etc.

    Explain in detail as if you were trying to talk someone into playing this class. Looking forward to replies




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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    Quote Originally Posted by kmcferrin View Post
    Why do you spam the forums?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryter
    Because I was asked via Private Messages why I hadn't posted one of these in each class forum. So as requested, I have posted them.

    This is not meant to be spam (I don't even see how helpful topics that could potentially help someone decide whether or not they wish to play this class can even be considered spam). It's meant to serve as a helpful topic in the near future. Someone might find it via Google or forum search.

    Now are you here to gloat, or would you like to be helpful and share why you like this class?
    That aside... Let me share why I loved to play this class:

    The Burglar gives me that rogue/assassin feel and focuses highly on positional damage. You have medium armour and rely on evading more for survival (you're also given TnG + FF for a +50% evade rating for 30 seconds - making you feel pretty much invincible). You can sneak past enemies in camps to go assassinate an Orc leader (or any elite for that matter). You can track treasure and loot stuff :P

    Conjunctions - This is what I really find stands out. The Burglar is the only class that can pull out CJ's on demand (others rely on luck (percentage chance)). Conjunctions can potentially save your fellowship! You can give emergency morale to everyone, or power (by them clicking blue/green). Red or Yellow are used to contribute extra damage. All this is done while the enemy is stunned (so they can't hit you while this is happening).

    Stealth - Well... obviously sneaking around is a plus, and stands out because you don't have to wait over 30 minutes like on a racial, and if you trait an entire trait-line (AND Leaf Walker) your stealth speed makes the racial stealth walking look like a snail. You're a faster stealthier assassin.

    It's a bit slow to level up, but it's a blast!

    You've got stuns, debuffs and gambles (google for those if you don't know what those mean).
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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    because at one time it was not fail


    i was sucked in to a class they made fail in pvp

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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    Quote Originally Posted by ifreborn1 View Post
    because at one time it was not fail


    i was sucked in to a class they made fail in pvp
    What changes do you feel made it "fail", as you put it?

    Are you saying you think it's FAIL just in PvP? or do you dislike it in PvE? lol this topic was suppose to be about what you like.
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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graycient View Post
    What changes do you feel made it "fail", as you put it?

    Are you saying you think it's FAIL just in PvP? or do you dislike it in PvE? lol this topic was suppose to be about what you like.
    just ignore him please
    i play a burg because i love the class its just awesome
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    Cool Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    Because Bilbo Baggins, the Greatest Burg of all time !

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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    I myself was greatly inspired by The Hobbit, it was perhaps one of the reasons why I gave Burglar a shot

    I like the play style as well, sneaking around, choosing targets, "think before you act" kinda gameplay (atleast it was during leveling!) and later on turning into the wicked group DPS booster and contributor.

    Burglar may not be the kind of Switz army knife like the Captain who can do pretty much anything, if just a bit, but Burglar is still remarkable support class. Debuffs to reduce damage, debuffs to increase it, ranged interrupts, passable corruption removal and especially, ability to start fellowship maneuvers at will! A well timed FM has saved my skin, and my fellows skins more times than I care to mention. With FM's we'll contribute healing, power, a stun which buys some breathing time and some extra damage. Not to mention our passable survivability

    Aaah, I could go on...
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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    The burg is the most fun class I have play in a long time. It still have dps that can match my champ and hunter but I can do my own CJs and if I don't want to fight, I go stealth and let my fellowship fight my mobs for me lol..Or I rez things. Very fun class to play.
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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    Well to me its a fun class make you think before you do this is what I'm trying to learn to put my self in a very bad situation and try to get the hell out or knock them out
    although every class has its weakness but I found that burglar is the most fun and smart class between them all

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    Re: Why do you play the Burglar?

    I like the chance to enter a situation in stealth, study, plan, and then strike. As I've been leveling (all solo), some of the content has been tough (I'm also completely new to gaming), but now & then I've been able to do some really neat stuff solo, fellowship quests above my level at the time.

    I'll give you an example. Burglar suits my personality, but this was when I remember thinking, "I love being a burglar!"

    I was in the 40s, questing around Eastern Malenhad. There's this serious orc camp and a fellowship quest to destroy their siege engines. You have to get a torch from a cave where 3 orcs are hanging around a campfire--I could just do that. Then I take the torch and just run like hell right through the orcs and these big-### trolls, all of them beating the #### out of me, light up the siege engine and then Hide In Plain Sight and run some more! I did the same thing with the quest to drop the giant turtle egg in their fire, but it was even funnier, since I come running right in the front door carrying this big old turtle egg, drop it in the fire and then hide! I stayed around to watch the carnage when the turtle showed up and used the confusion to get the other torch and set fire to the catapult.

    Sometimes you can even handle a room full of mobs by killing a few, hiding, hitting ready-and-able then killing some more and hiding again, and then you can take the boss with no one left to help him. That's pretty cool.

    My plans don't always work, but I'm sure it's because I'm just not that good at this yet. I think for this class, you could adapt the line from Repo Man: "Most people spend their lives avoiding tense situations; burglar spends his life getting into tense situations."

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    Why do I play a Burglar?
    Because no other class can sneak past orange/red Elites and hope to survive.

    And because it's fun to go and 'tap' people. With daggers.

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    Honest answer, really really honest

    I started playing Burglar out of sheer dislike for them.

    As far as i was concerned, a burglar bought nothing to a group apart from reveal weakness. I would never ever take a burglar with me (this was back in MoM) to an instance as they were a waste of a slot.

    Boy was I wrong.

    I was running HoC (by running i mean farming) and a kin member of mine wanted to come on his burglar. Reluctantly i agreed to let him come and he knew about my dislike for burgs but i let him come anyway. All through the instance we were talking about burgs, playstyle, traits, rotations etc and he just said to me, why dont you roll one and see how you feel about it. Like me he had levelled a Hunter to 60 and then rolled a burg. He absolutely loved it and i though screw it. Ill give it a go and see what happens.

    Burg is my main now and i dont think i could play another class with so much enjoyment. Unless they perhaps make a heavy armour stealth runekeeper with a staff and a heavy sheild that wealds a banner and a bow
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    I play burglar because it is the only class that i have found that you can go into a heavily fortified camp and just kill a single person. (sneaking)
    You can also get a skill that makes it so you are not injured on falling down.
    Finally it gives the game a challenge (usually have to be a few levels higher or fight the monsters one at a time). Some of the other classes you can enter and kill a level 15 wolf while you are level 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceremony View Post
    ........Or I rez things.....
    I must be doing something terribly wrong... Give me what he's having!!
    Last edited by WiteWolfEye; Jul 24 2012 at 12:59 PM. Reason: Grammar
    ya bish

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    I love the burglar as its the thinking mans/womans DPS

    Why fight through 100 goblins to kill the great goblin when you can just sneak past them.

    As for killing mobs, if we can stun it we can kill it

    So yeah we dont have broken cc in the moors anymore but were still a challenge to most.

    Solo burgs are awesome, burg packs are epic (remember 6 maning sammath gul with a burg squad back in SoM)

    We can solo farm the sword halls for fun

    Just a few of my thoughts
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    Dunno if this thing is going on still, but here's my two to three cents on the subject.

    I played burg because in most games in the past I had played I found that I was more than likely to try and sneak around enemies to save myself the trouble of having to fight every. Single. One. I also had a knack of hiding in niches and sneak attacking other players in multi-player games rather than running right into the fray. So when I looked into the character, saw that they'd be sneaky and--even better--steal from enemies, I was all for it.

    One of the best things about burgs that I've found so far though is that people often times underestimate the strength of the burg. Obviously turning invisible and going through an entire horde of enemies is what people mainly know about the class. But there's so much more to being a burglar. I've found myself taking on more than one enemy, happily stunning one into submission while I slice and dice another. Then there's all the gambling: the healing factor, the move to lower defense and attack power, the trick to disarm your enemy, the ability to spot even the tiniest crack in your opponents armor to hit them where it hurts...

    It's just a well rounded, class I believe. Yes there are weaknesses because all classes do have them (for instance when four enemies jump you at once and you're woefully unprepared as your Hide In Plain Sight move still has to reload), but a Burg is extremely fun to play. Out of all three of my characters so far, my main/my burglar is the character that I enjoy playing the most.

    P.S.- Don't play it if you don't have the patience to plan out which attacks to use when and you simply like to run headfirst into the enemies. You'll die if you do that as a burg.

    P.P.S.- Nothing beats robbing every enemy you come across though.
    Go tell that long tongue liar, go and tell that midnight rider, tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter, tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down.

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    Facts which I enjoy about the burglar and which made me create a burglar:

    - fast combat, some really fast skills, some nice opportunities to create really fast skill rotations.
    - dynamic combat realised by critical response mechanic similiar to the block and parry mechanic of the guardian. this makes combat a lot more interesting and challenging compared to champions and hunters for example.
    - obviously stealth
    - various opportunities to use stunlocks
    - positional damage which is challenging in some cases.
    - kind of tanky if you stacked up evasion in the past, but thats not the case anymore.
    Burglar since day 1.

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    For me, it has always come back to one word...versatility. Do I want to fight my way through a camp or sneak in without engaging any MOBs? Do I want to de-buff their defenses and cut them down fast, or do I want to limit their damage output so that I can stay in the fight longer? Other than escort/protection quests, there are very few things that will give a burglar pause. You can take out on level elites(sometimes higher) at a much earlier level than many of the other classes since if you can mez/stun the MOB you can effectively take a break in the middle of the fight to let your skills reset.
    Overall, having the option to do things differently depending on my mood is what keeps me coming back to my burglar.

    Oh, and I love being able to get loot without fighting. I burgle every time I have a chance. I usually get enough morale/power potions to have left-overs to vendor at the next tier, not to mention legendaries, purples, and recipes galore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorma_eu View Post
    kind of tanky if you stacked up evasion in the past
    I miss Burglar tanking. I used to love tanking NCF and STH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lao10 View Post
    Burg is my main now and i dont think i could play another class with so much enjoyment. Unless they perhaps make a heavy armour stealth runekeeper with a staff and a heavy sheild that wealds a banner and a bow
    I love it! It would be the 'Gandalf' class!

    I started playing a burglar because I'm an old-school trekkie who loves playing the Romulan warbird.

    *uncloak*
    *two plasma torpedoes to the bridge*
    *cloak*

    That's the burglar.
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    I have created several characters such a warden, captain, hunter, champ & burg and enjoy aspects of all the classes. IMO the burglar is quite different in playstyle than the aforementioned classes.

    I play a burglar because it's FUN, but it's not flashy, you don't level the fastest (solo) and it does require thinking ahead usually. The burg can do most quests more easily than other classes and is more efficient on things like pots, food, etc. When you can go straight to the objective location/monster/item by avoiding the rif raf you save allot of time, unfortunately you do miss some XP and general loot. The versatility of a burglar is amazing as previously stated, however my experience has been it does require more thinking (ie brain power) than many of the other classes. If you are bored with a 'basic' character class, play a burg .... just don't play it the same way.

    As Alci said "Don't play it if you don't have the patience to plan out which attacks to use when and you simply like to run headfirst into the enemies. You'll die if you do that as a burg."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowdoc View Post
    I love it! It would be the 'Gandalf' class!

    I started playing a burglar because I'm an old-school trekkie who loves playing the Romulan warbird.

    *uncloak*
    *two plasma torpedoes to the bridge*
    *cloak*

    That's the burglar.
    lol you should try Eve Online and train to fly a cloaky Proteus... you'll love it

    Back to the burg. Played one as my main since May 07 and have always loved the style, flair and panache that only a burglar can display. Ultimately it's all about having options - always more than one way to pull off a quest plus of course the ability to HIPS when things get a little hairy

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    The burg is the most recent class I made but I've already leveled it up to 75 (Pre-RoR) and never ran into difficulties or a slow period. My other capped characters are LM and RK. I found it was a very versatile class, good dps but can also provide support. While many people don't understand the role burgs play, the tricks and other skills they have to increase group dps or debuff mobs in group play are very useful. I highly dislike soloing on my LM but found solo play as a burg to always be a good time because of the ability to sneak, HiPS out of tricky situations, and use a variety of means to quickly take down multiple mobs with a little pre-planning.

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    I play the burglar because of the variety of thing you can do depending on how you feel which other classes don’t give you. With the burg you can switch instantly one second you could be doing epic DPS like a hunter then with a stance change you can become a CC/Debuff class like the LM’s and even at times become a tank.

    Also when you get bored you can switch a few traits and instead of being a stealthy DPS’er you can use your gambles to nuke mobs down and the gambler system is a lot of fun when you are applying all the bleeds you can and u see the mobs health disappear by only doing 3 or 4 skills.

    End game wise the burg isn’t essential to a group like a tank or mini but do we make a hell of a difference when we are included, +10% dmg on mobs, raising the crit chance or making the mob do less dmg, keeping mobs permanently mez’d and kicking out some good dmg when needed.

    As for CJ’s we can be the difference between a wipe and survival using all green cjs to keep ppl alive or blue to restore everyone’s power or just for the extra dmg boost.

    Overall the burg imo the best class to play closely followed maybe by the warden just because they can solo preety much everything and annoying guardians can be a lot of fun but the burg is the stand out class for me it’s a utility class that can do a bit of everything

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