LM's show up, and creeps log

[WulfgarsFather]

Discuss.

[WulfgarsFather]

[johnnyskywalker]

[Tiodioni]

Why should one log for a LM, they are quite easy to kill?

Spiders on the other hand, when they show up en force, then freeps log...

[87_Suited]

Why should one log for a LM, they are quite easy to kill?

I'm under the impression that most servers only have 2-3 really good LM's tops, thus you don't see a massive amount of LM's coming out to the moors like you saw all of your ROI minstrels emerge when it was so Ezemodin to play one.

The LM is still a very difficult class to play, but in the hands of a skilled player, they are god-mode.

[Gladgilrian]

Is it 2008 all over again?

[vhamster]

I wish they'd bring the MoM hunters back!

[WulfgarsFather]

I see the PvP is hotter then ever on the forums. That is what I like to come back and see!! My personal opinion on farming is I won't do it. It is my own self pride that will not let me. Now I am not saying those who do are some horrible people and what not.

My thing is this. Many people in this game and others hae gone to raids and maybe something was not working as intended. The enemy can be bugged out and not attack so you get a free kill. You can stand in a certain spot in the raid and never be hit. IMO this is the exact same thing as farming. You are taking a easier way to accomplish your goal.

With that said I look at PvP in a higher regard PERSONALY!! Key word is personaly. PvP rank does nothing for me. It never has. The only thing I can get out of the Moors is I bested you or you bested me. So I enjoy grinding my way out for the KB titles or other things in the Moors. For me farming waters it down.

But as long as you pay your account (VIP members) and not me I can care less what you do. Because you may kill me while I am taking my lumps on my grind. It happened to snooch although I had some nice help from BloodBain and some others.

Stuns honestly never really had to take his lumps. When I first rolled to the Moors 5+ years ago there was no DR. I would roll solo and come up on 3 creeps and was able to keep 2 stun locked the entire time and pick them off one by one. Not to mention If I was rolling with Oisal and Andalusia in a small group. We could lock down 7+ creeps and that is no exxageration.
But point is as Stuns I never had a green ring and I never had to take the lumps of getting him "ready". I feasted off of those green and blue rings etc. In turn they ranked up and then the feast was not as easy and it was a battle now.

So I guess it is time Stuns took his lumps while I get ready. But believe me get your thumping in now. Because when he is ready it will be just as good as ever. And those who farmed that is fine. I will get there and I will be better for it.

I know it has been a while. But I personaly do not believe in sitting there and talking about how OP one side is. I play my freep mostly because most people are drawn to the dark side in games. I like the feeling of odds against me. I like the feeling even more when we beat them.

I am coming!

Ben, we might want to co-ordinate our appearances as to not decimate creep morale to come out.

[Aramidis]

I don't know about you, but even if I'm on my warg I have never loggesd because theres LM's. I actually find them juicy and fun to fight against, the only LM I am afraid is Greenwen but that's because she actually knows her class and knows how to use it to it's full potential. Even then I don't log I just try to avoid fighting directly with her

[Gladgilrian]

Welcome back Stuns! Can't believe you stayed in the royal PoS that is ToR for so long. So much potential and cash wasted by BioFail. It's sad when turbine out does you in PvP development. You really should try GW2 WvW, I think it's something that you would like.

[WulfgarsFather]

I don't know about you, but even if I'm on my warg I have never loggesd because theres LM's. I actually find them juicy and fun to fight against, the only LM I am afraid is Greenwen but that's because she actually knows her class and knows how to use it to it's full potential. Even then I don't log I just try to avoid fighting directly with her

1v1 sometime on your warg?

[Gladgilrian]

I don't know about you, but even if I'm on my warg I have never loggesd because theres LM's. I actually find them juicy and fun to fight against, the only LM I am afraid is Greenwen but that's because she actually knows her class and knows how to use it to it's full potential. Even then I don't log I just try to avoid fighting directly with her

I got news for you GioFarmy. Without the store Greeny sucks. Decent PvE LM, horrible PvP LM. She's the biggest drama queen on the server and people just put up with her because she has a sexy French accent. No one cried when she left Vinyara.

[avrilo]

I got news for you GioFarmy. Without the store Greeny sucks. Decent PvE LM, horrible PvP LM. She's the biggest drama queen on the server and people just put up with her because she has a sexy French accent. No one cried when she left Vinyara.

I remember running skumfil with greenwen when it was first launched, and I coulda sworn it was a he. Jesus, mics can be so confusing.

[myforumacc2]

I remember running skumfil with greenwen when it was first launched, and I coulda sworn it was a he. Jesus, mics can be so confusing.

Which raises the question, how does Spidey think its a sexy accent? o.O

[87_Suited]

I got news for you GioFarmy. Without the store Greeny sucks. Decent PvE LM, horrible PvP LM. She's the biggest drama queen on the server and people just put up with her because she has a sexy French accent. No one cried when she left Vinyara.

Any unskilled LM can win with Tar-kite method + traited waterlore spam

No store or good movement is required.

It is a blessing watching a great LM like Rengha (former Nimrodelian) win without resorting to these methods.

[Gilgalade]

Any unskilled LM can win with Tar-kite method + traited waterlore spam

No store or good movement is required.

It is a blessing watching a great LM like Rengha (former Nimrodelian) win without resorting to these methods.

He still plays!?!? :O
Tell him I said hi!!

[WulfgarsFather]

Any unskilled LM can win with Tar-kite method + traited waterlore spam

No store or good movement is required.

It is a blessing watching a great LM like Rengha (former Nimrodelian) win without resorting to these methods.

On my Worg, as soon as pounce goes off, my fingers are on q + d for the whole fight. No need for "trying to find positional", 50% of the time, I'm in position 100% of the time. Lucky I don't ever have to fight myself creepside.

Of course, in tar, this can look silly since you'll be in slow motion. Too much time for me to get heals off while being decimated by my powerful pet attacks. My advice here is to just bleed from stealth and disappear or sprint, or both tbh. The LM's pet infrared vision will track you even after disappear. This is working as intended.

On a high ranked reaver, have a stack of at least 50 power and health pots. With Wrath, you may be able to perpetually stay alive equal to the LM self rejuvenation. Make sure you save gut punch for power drains!

All other creep classes, I can't see how tar would affect them.

You need self heals against good weavers, reavers, and BA's after they unload their whole skill bar on you. Huge morale pool WITH great dps creeps will get water lore spammed. Sorry about your easymode audacity 13 creep you worked so hard for. No LM can beat good ranked creeps (the classes I just mentioned and maybe really good worgs) with just 10k morale vs 24k morale with no heals. That's just LOL, and experience talking. Especially BA's who get Grip on top of that, and weavers who always burrow on me and charge back to full out of combat, hoping that in round 2 I will not have some skills up or something that I owned you with the first time.

apologize for any grammarical errors, I'm into the vodka.

[87_Suited]

On my Worg, as soon as pounce goes off, my fingers are on q + d for the whole fight. No need for "trying to find positional", 50% of the time, I'm in position 100% of the time. Lucky I don't ever have to fight myself creepside.

Of course, in tar, this can look silly since you'll be in slow motion. Too much time for me to get heals off while being decimated by my powerful pet attacks. My advice here is to just bleed from stealth and disappear or sprint, or both tbh. The LM's pet infrared vision will track you even after disappear. This is working as intended.

On a high ranked reaver, have a stack of at least 50 power and health pots. With Wrath, you may be able to perpetually stay alive equal to the LM self rejuvenation. Make sure you save gut punch for power drains!

All other creep classes, I can't see how tar would affect them.

You need self heals against good weavers, reavers, and BA's after they unload their whole skill bar on you. Huge morale pool WITH great dps creeps will get water lore spammed. Sorry about your easymode audacity 13 creep you worked so hard for. No LM can beat good ranked creeps (the classes I just mentioned and maybe really good worgs) with just 10k morale vs 24k morale with no heals. That's just LOL, and experience talking. Especially BA's who get Grip on top of that, and weavers who always burrow on me and charge back to full out of combat, hoping that in round 2 I will not have some skills up or something that I owned you with the first time.

apologize for any grammarical errors, I'm into the vodka.

water lore in moderation is fine... spam water lore lookin like homeboy in Titanic on the bow of the ship is rediculous. It is tough indeed vs a reaver and you have to beable to recover from the impale/DS but once that is over with, it is silly to see non-stop WL spam. If a reaver is using wrath or BA uses Uruk during 1v1, that is sorry.

[WulfgarsFather]

water lore in moderation is fine... spam water lore lookin like homeboy in Titanic on the bow of the ship is rediculous. It is tough indeed vs a reaver and you have to beable to recover from the topple/DS but once that is over with, it is silly to see non-stop WL spam. If a reaver is using wrath or BA uses Uruk during 1v1, that is sorry.

I always pictured it more like this

[johnnyskywalker]

Which raises the question, how does Spidey think its a sexy accent? o.O

[Gladgilrian]

Any unskilled LM can win with Tar-kite method + traited waterlore spam

No store or good movement is required.

It is a blessing watching a great LM like Rengha (former Nimrodelian) win without resorting to these methods.

From what I read about the LM changes I would agree, LM's will be the new FOTM. I was referring to the past when I still played. Greeny is a prime example of the store making a mediocre PvPer a superstar.

Isn't it Renga? And yes, outstanding player, iirc he has Creeps in TBB.

[Gladgilrian]

Which raises the question, how does Spidey think its a sexy accent? o.O

So you never heard Greeny speak? Sounds like a woman to me, I can understand where you and toq might not be familiar with a feminine voice. You because, well, because you're you. toq because, well, those facilities are segregated men only and women only, but after toq felt the need to roll a ranger when his cervix started aching last night, he may qualify for a women's facility now.

[vhamster]

Any unskilled LM can win with Tar-kite method + traited waterlore spam

No store or good movement is required.

It is a blessing watching a great LM like Rengha (former Nimrodelian) win without resorting to these methods.

and a former kinmate. Glad to see he's doing well.

[vhamster]

From what I read about the LM changes I would agree, LM's will be the new FOTM. I was referring to the past when I still played. Greeny is a prime example of the store making a mediocre PvPer a superstar.

Isn't it Renga? And yes, outstanding player, iirc he has Creeps in TBB.

LMs aren't populated on the server as RoI minstrels are/were. It's not the same influx. Three or four lms pop during the week, that's about it. Long-term effects have yet to come.

[ben4patriots]

LMs aren't populated on the server as RoI minstrels are/were. It's not the same influx. Three or four lms pop during the week, that's about it. Long-term effects have yet to come.

Yea it seems only Wardens show up less then LM's out in the Moors currently.