question on reavers

[Stepbrother]

Well, you're half right, LOL

Not sure where you're going with this but both are pretty good solo (and are willing to fight solo). I have respect for any hunter that fights solo though whether they're good our not as good. Hunter is easily the toughest class I've ever played for soloing.

[Stepbrother]

I've seen Elk alone a few times, it never turned out well for him. Good guy, but at times it seems his son posts using his acct., I could be wrong though.

Of all the people Invicti could have called out for playing like this, it's pretty lame that he would name Elk. Of course it is somewhat understandable considering the vast majority of those people play on the same side Victi plays on Nim.

[Isindar]

Of all the people Invicti could have called out for playing like this, it's pretty lame that he would name Elk. Of course it is somewhat understandable considering the vast majority of those people play on the same side Victi plays on Nim.

simple observation, I call it how I see it.

hunter isn't rocket science, and you're hardly in a position to be throwing around the word lame with your feelings constantly being relayed through pet names

[spelunker]

simple observation, I call it how I see it.

hunter isn't rocket science, and you're hardly in a position to be throwing around the word lame with your feelings constantly being relayed through pet names

I always wished Milty's main creep was a Weaver, or at least WL. So much wasted potential.

Edit: I see you've tried out a warden Milty, I'm curious what you think of it.

[Gladgilrian]

Not sure where you're going with this but both are pretty good solo (and are willing to fight solo). I have respect for any hunter that fights solo though whether they're good our not as good. Hunter is easily the toughest class I've ever played for soloing.

It's been quite a while since I've seen Arquesse on his Hunter, but then again, I haven't played in a while. Getting better is always a good thing.

[Gladgilrian]

Of all the people Invicti could have called out for playing like this, it's pretty lame that he would name Elk. Of course it is somewhat understandable considering the vast majority of those people play on the same side Victi plays on Nim.

Hunter is a class where it's night and day between being the ganker and the gankee. A good Hunter that is set up. full focus, traps all laid out is a scary thing.

[Stepbrother]

simple observation, I call it how I see it.

hunter isn't rocket science, and you're hardly in a position to be throwing around the word lame with your feelings constantly being relayed through pet names

Simple observations. I call them how I see them. When I see people in warg packs or playing as raid babies, I let them know my "feelings". Interesting fact: in 6 years I've never done either on freep or creep. I say that puts me in a somewhat unique situation as one of a handful of people who can point that stuff out without being a hypocrite. You used to be one of them yourself but I see zerg on zerg on the big servers has taken its toll on you.

[Stepbrother]

I always wished Milty's main creep was a Weaver, or at least WL. So much wasted potential.

Edit: I see you've tried out a warden Milty, I'm curious what you think of it.

Boring as sin. With no skill cooldowns, it really is just scripted 1 2 3 4 button mashing.

[myforumacc2]

is BDC a girl ??? O_O

Cant say I personally know for sure, but yea thats the rumor

The problem with this kiting idea is that reavers can and will catch you now.

Yea, that kiting idea wouldnt work. But backpedalling (which is kinda like kiting) forces them to chase you, decreases their auto attacks, forces a cc instead of a damage skill, and possibly getting the position on the other guy. It really works with the double fleetness set though. Meanwhile, you dont have to waste any skills on CC



Hunters are fun


We get to do this

[Isindar]

Simple observations. I call them how I see them. When I see people in warg packs or playing as raid babies, I let them know my "feelings". Interesting fact: in 6 years I've never done either on freep or creep. I say that puts me in a somewhat unique situation as one of a handful of people who can point that stuff out without being a hypocrite. You used to be one of them yourself but I see zerg on zerg on the big servers has taken its toll on you.

God forbid people group, so what do you call what you "do" while sitting in the ever popular nimrodel tactical zergball.. soloing?

If you think that isn't extremely hypocritical I've got some bad news for you. Here's a funny fact, I'm actually ungrouped the majority of the time, but I suppose you'll see what you want to and lay your issues at others feet as usual.

[Stepbrother]

God forbid people group, so what do you call what you "do" while sitting in the ever popular nimrodel tactical zergball.. soloing?

If you think that isn't extremely hypocritical I've got some bad news for you. Here's a funny fact, I'm actually ungrouped the majority of the time, but I suppose you'll see what you want to and lay your issues at others feet as usual.

Yeah and I'm getting exactly the same support as you right? I'm not sure if you're lying to yourself or just lying but I have you now in the same trash bin as all the easymoders this server has seen over the years. Never quite understood what you guys get out of an automatic win, but people are what they are I guess.

[Isindar]

Yeah and I'm getting exactly the same support as you right? I'm not sure if you're lying to yourself or just lying but I have you now in the same trash bin as all the easymoders this server has seen over the years. Never quite understood what you guys get out of an automatic win, but people are what they are I guess.

Oh, I'm truly devastated that people heal me as opposed to the idiots freepside on this server who are incapable of actually fighting outside of tabbing through the opposition and holding the S key to eventually escape and die as they throw their healers at us to act as speedbumps. The implicit irony being they're more often than not greater than 50% make-up of support classes.

You're doing yourself a serious disservice by thinking you're any different from or above these types, from what I've seen. If your feelings are hurt because I receive support, considering it's essentially how defilers and warleaders get points...I'd direct that angst at your pals in warspeech or the general group of wardens sitting up front pretending to be gemodi prior to this update.

Failing that I suppose you could just triple-stack waterlore, sit in the front tabbing embers on players and be sure to horse off in the safest direction if the wind changes and repeat the mantra "I'm better, I'm better" to yourself because I'm receiving support and you aren't.

[Stepbrother]

Oh, I'm truly devastated that people heal me as opposed to the idiots freepside on this server who are incapable of actually fighting outside of tabbing through the opposition and holding the S key to eventually escape and die as they throw their healers at us to act as speedbumps. The implicit irony being they're more often than not greater than 50% make-up of support classes.

You're doing yourself a serious disservice by thinking you're any different from or above these types, from what I've seen. If your feelings are hurt because I receive support, considering it's essentially how defilers and warleaders get points...I'd direct that angst at your pals in warspeech or the general group of wardens sitting up front pretending to be gemodi prior to this update.

Failing that I suppose you could just triple-stack waterlore, sit in the front tabbing embers on players and be sure to horse off in the safest direction if the wind changes and repeat the mantra "I'm better, I'm better" to yourself because I'm receiving support and you aren't.

Now that we've established that you're a pocket healed raid baby, I'll leave it to you to contemplate how much sense it made for you to start this discussion by calling out someone else for their play style. Even in your diatribe above you manage to criticize half the community because they don't play how you feel they're supposed to. Only you get to decide what's the right way of course. Personally, I find it more palatable that people come out and fight regardless if they will get help than people that park at grams or gv until the winning condition surfaces. To each his own.

[Familiarity]

Considering this whole thread was asking for criticism and advice on how to play.

[Stepbrother]

Considering this whole thread was asking for criticism and advice on how to play.

Your entire post was a sentence fragment. I'm pretty sure Elk was just asking for advice, not the critique on his playing style.

[Isindar]

Even in your diatribe above you manage to criticize half the community because they don't play how you feel they're supposed to.

being awful and consistently relying on numbers is a core trait to this server, on both sides and it isn't a playstyle, but an attitude.
annnd
clearly I am so used to zerging that at a 61 RPK I have lost sight entirely of the point I was making


just remember the mantra, you are superior. irony being I've seen you display this last person in first person out attitude that you constantly deride others for, I do put effort into avoiding being a hypocrite so I suggest you work on that.

[Elkhunter76]

OH my lord let slow down peeps

1. my son dosent go onto forums spidy just me.... <3 u
2.I was just asking a reaver question and got my answer from another server yes reaver have higher mits and the 1st breakdown in morale is the hardiest to get threw after that they start melt
3.lay down traps in a 1v1 is stupid cause they just get off there charge X) so far the only hunters i have seen take down high rank reavers is myself and calquinta ...the williy bros insanely hard bdc,skull, invitc,inadout are pretty tough as well
the way reavers are built makes a bad match up for hunters since our big skills are inductions based and require us to stand still except for pen shot we are limited to our movements because of focus loss ..where reavers that can "key turn" really well just destroy hunters just line of sighting us so so I just time my stuns and pot my wounds and hang on and see what happens
HOWEVER....the new update looks BADAZZ giving hunters more like a skirmisher stance inductions on the fly should change the game a little so I am stoked about that

so I love 1v1s so I will fight anyone I might lose but i will give u a hell of a fight ...

[spelunker]

Failing that I suppose you could just triple-stack waterlore, sit in the front tabbing embers on players and be sure to horse off in the safest direction if the wind changes and repeat the mantra "I'm better, I'm better" to yourself because I'm receiving support and you aren't.

Now that we've established that you're a pocket healed raid baby, I'll leave it to you to contemplate how much sense it made for you to start this discussion by calling out someone else for their play style. Even in your diatribe above you manage to criticize half the community because they don't play how you feel they're supposed to. Only you get to decide what's the right way of course. Personally, I find it more palatable that people come out and fight regardless if they will get help than people that park at grams or gv until the winning condition surfaces. To each his own.

Isindar, is that you Geirskogul?

..where reavers that can "key turn" really well just destroy hunters just line of sighting us...

wut?

[Stepbrother]

just remember the mantra, you are superior. irony being I've seen you display this last person in first person out attitude that you constantly deride others for, I do put effort into avoiding being a hypocrite so I suggest you work on that.

lol, you started the "superior" attitude by taking cheapshots at another player (Elk), it's a punk move to redirect. That said, you have no clue. You come out with heals and help, push in and zerg someone that has neither. You even do it in a warg pack. You are everything that's wrong with the game. To put it another way, if you say you've ever seen me run from an even fight, ever, you're a bold face liar and you know it.

Anyway, to switch gears on this entirely, you called out Elkhunter. Personally, I can name about a thousand more gutless players over the years. How come I've never seen you call out Cream? Seriously, do you really find Elkhunter more gutless than Creamofmushroom? Have you ever once in 6 years seen Creamofmushroom alone in the moors? Have you ever seen him stay to fight when the odds weren't completely stacked in his favour? Have you ever seen him 1v1 anyone? I wonder what it is about some of you people that you find it so easy to dump all over one player but never, ever call out another player that is far more deserving?. Could it be you feel like one will have more support to push back than the other? Could it be you saw Elk get gang-attacked on the forums recently and thought he was an easy mark? See a pattern here? Probably not. I find the mechanics of group thought fascinating in any case.

[Stepbrother]

[QUOTE=spelunker;6861683]Isindar, is that you Geirskogul?
/QUOTE]

Do you really think I care about you at all? I've known Invicti for 6 years now, I knew you for about 5 months and even then didn't really care. Stay out of discussions you don't understand.

[Gladgilrian]

Wow, are we still have the "I solo, you are a raidbaby zergling" fight?

I've said this to you and many others that claim to be "solo" Milt. Being solo and standing behind, in the middle, along side a raid is NOT solo. Yes boo hoo, no one heals poor wittle Milty. Maybe if you weren't such a jerk to your fellow Freeps they would throw you a heal now and then, but then we both know that Freepside isn't Creepside. You have said it yourself. Creeps watch each others backs, because they have to, it's not like WL's and Defilers have much choice. Freep healers on the other have choices so the majority play like a bunch of selfish children. A very good friend told me that when she tried to rez you, you told her "If you can't save me, I don't want your rez" That's why you don't get healed.

Yes, call me the raidbaby zergling all you want, but when I solo, I solo. I get away from everyone. I camp rezzes, I camp paths, and never, EVER once in all the years that I've played have I caught you alone. You know the moors better than anyone currently playing, and you're a smart player. You know how to get to the action without getting caught, but playing alone does not make you a soloer.

BTW, Elk is one of the few Freeps I like and respect.

[spelunker]

Do you really think I care about you at all? I've known Invicti for 6 years now, I knew you for about 5 months and even then didn't really care. Stay out of discussions you don't understand.

You seemed to care quite a bit when I was playing on nimrodel, you're welcome to remember things how you want though, I'll do the same. My comment was that he left a summary of your LM gameplay that was nearly a word-for-word match for ones I've made in the past, and your knee-jerk response in each case was a similarly laughable and inaccurate one.

What's there to understand in this conversation? I just see another example of how you don't like others questioning your play choices when you do exactly the same thing to everyone else all the time.

Pretty sure I was about the only person to give an honest, helpful answer in this whole thread.

[Stepbrother]

Pretty sure I was about the only person to give an honest, helpful answer in this whole thread.

Yes, you're a pillar of honesty, well done.

[Stepbrother]

Wow, are we still have the "I solo, you are a raidbaby zergling" fight?

I've said this to you and many others that claim to be "solo" Milt. Being solo and standing behind, in the middle, along side a raid is NOT solo.

And as I've explained many, many times, when the zerg on zerg is happening, there's nothing else to do. That doesn't change a thing about my point, it actually reinforces it. It is far worse for me as a solo player that you raid babies all huddle together. It brings the warg packs all around the fringe where I would play, it creates the dynamic already explained where basically everything I'm fighting is getting support whereas I get none. If the action was spread out more, I would be the happiest player in the game but the fact of the matter is most of you are too afraid of dying in a video game to leave the safety of the zerg, You're talking to someone that has spent countless hours roaming the moors looking for anything away from the raid on raid buddy.

Yes boo hoo, no one heals poor wittle Milty. Maybe if you weren't such a jerk to your fellow Freeps they would throw you a heal now and then, but then we both know that Freepside isn't Creepside. You have said it yourself. Creeps watch each others backs, because they have to, it's not like WL's and Defilers have much choice. Freep healers on the other have choices so the majority play like a bunch of selfish children. A very good friend told me that when she tried to rez you, you told her "If you can't save me, I don't want your rez" That's why you don't get healed.

So much here to address. I'm not looking for help on freepside. Ever. I've seen enough of the average freep to know what to expect. It's not something I'm worried about. That doesn't mean I don't laugh at them when they prove me right over and over.

And the quote was never "if you can't save me...". It was "If you don't help me when I need it...". Either you have it wrong or someone lied to you (I've said it numerous times). I have no interest in someone feeling like they helped after watching slackjawed while I get burned down in front of them, then throwing out a rez like "Here, I helped." No you didn't you idiot, you didn't do anything.

Yes, call me the raidbaby zergling all you want,

You're a raid baby and you always were, like 99% of your tribe. Here's another little piece of information I've said a thousand times: the BB created the zerg-on-zerg-afraid-to-die-in-a-video-game culture on this server. Everyone that's been around long enough knows this. Ani used your tactics against you and you whined endlessly about it but in the end, that's exactly what it was: you hated seeing it from the other side.

[Isindar]

lol, you started the "superior" attitude by taking cheapshots at another player (Elk), it's a punk move to redirect. That said, you have no clue. You come out with heals and help, push in and zerg someone that has neither. You even do it in a warg pack. You are everything that's wrong with the game. To put it another way, if you say you've ever seen me run from an even fight, ever, you're a bold face liar and you know it.

Oh save it, I've logged my warg maybe 2-3 times for short durations in the last month. Considering a loremaster has enough self-healing to almost constitute a defiler or WL's HPS if used correctly I hardly see the point in besmirching any creep player support, which is entirely besides the point of you taking me calling out Elk far more personal than even Elk himself. But on an entirely different topic, I think it's hilarious that more often than not the groups or solo-zergs we're faced with are at least half-comprised of support classes that don't support which makes your anxiety about not being supported humorous (comments about loremasters being one-man-army's notwithstanding). Mostly because there's usually a handful of warleaders or defilers at best, and I'm the over-supported one because Edolas can barely keep SI on himself or gromkir is busy holding S and ramming the 2 key enough to be considered a hate-crime. That's cherry picking at best, that I should be the bad guy for capitalizing on incompetence.

Not to mention claiming "even numbers" as justification for running away is just about as silly as you could possibly be, considering the ridiculous imbalance issues this book of all books.

Anyway, to switch gears on this entirely, you called out Elkhunter. Personally, I can name about a thousand more gutless players over the years. How come I've never seen you call out Cream? Seriously, do you really find Elkhunter more gutless than Creamofmushroom? Have you ever once in 6 years seen Creamofmushroom alone in the moors? Have you ever seen him stay to fight when the odds weren't completely stacked in his favour? Have you ever seen him 1v1 anyone? I wonder what it is about some of you people that you find it so easy to dump all over one player but never, ever call out another player that is far more deserving?. Could it be you feel like one will have more support to push back than the other? Could it be you saw Elk get gang-attacked on the forums recently and thought he was an easy mark? See a pattern here? Probably not. I find the mechanics of group thought fascinating in any case.

Do you see cream making these sort of threads? Either way I hardly have a popular opinion. But if you're worried I only call out people on the opposing side, I can most definitely assure you I chide whoever typically yields the most entertainment value.