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  1. #1
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    Angry rank farming common nowadays :( - a hit in the face for all that worked so hard over years

    today I finally found the rank farmer "*****" on [DE]Gwaihir that is doing the same #### since weeks

    - turning all the delving bosses
    - having 20 freeps and one minstrel


    Please make sure, that this will end.... and not only with a ban for a few days...... those playes should get their rank set back to zero

    On our tiny little server we have seen and reported a many freeps and creeps over the last weeks, and we will not stop to find and report them all

    regards

    Last edited by darksaiyan; May 20 2022 at 03:52 PM.

  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by darksaiyan View Post
    today I finally found the rank farmer "*****" on [DE]Gwaihir that is doing the same #### since weeks

    - turning all the delving bosses
    - having 20 freeps and one minstrel


    Please make sure, that this will end.... and not only with a ban for a few days...... those playes should get their rank set back to zero

    On our tiny little server we have seen and reported a many freeps and creeps over the last weeks, and we will not stop to find and report them all

    regards



    They really will reset the ranks, I didn't believe jt until I saw it. Then the exact same player re-farmed to 15 lol.

    Likely the 2-3 game masters just can't keep up with the tickets judging by average wait time and the extended and frustrating process that is making tickets nowadays.
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  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorandril View Post
    They really will reset the ranks, I didn't believe jt until I saw it. Then the exact same player re-farmed to 15 lol.
    jeez, rofl
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    If only one knew more about their ability to investigate such cases. What can they really see or find out to verify such misconduct. And how fast.

    I think they really need to see if tickets are eligible.
    There was also a feature in 'New World' to report players for misconduct. Only automatically and without any timer to really check it by the support. The temporary ban took effect immediately.
    Many players of a raid or various companies then used this to get rid of the head of the opposing faction or other players shortly before battles,
    who then screwed up everything without commands in the fight.

    It is clearly not automatic in LOTRO. But seeing the GM/customer support investigating the case, realizes this one git is bringing in 20 freep accounts for 300 bucks or so... money talks.
    So s/he doesn't ban the accounts, but resets the rank of the farmer, and the exact same dude farms again, maybe even pays another 300 ... priceless comedy <3

  4. #4
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    This is why Orion should be looking at fundamental changes to the Ettenmoors and drawing a line under past achievements (and I say achievement for those who earned them and not those who are cheats)

    This is the only time and possibly will be the only time where Lotro has the opportunity to wipe the slate clean - start again. Within the story it could fit also being that there would now be new factions to follow on both sides. Do we really think that Gramsfoot would be still in a timewarp not knowing about Angmar and beyond?

    I have a quite a few reasonably high ranked Creeps but stopped actively playing because none of this cheating was ever addressed properly. In fact it took us 7 years to get them to admit it and state it was wrong!! But, that being said, I would park all my legitimate personal achievements for something new and easier for it to be realised if cheating did occur and acted upon.

    I mean one of the nails in the coffin for a lot of my friends who played and certainly was the catalyst was when they purposefully prevented the leader board from being viewed because even though this hadn't stopped some (they were just more careful about how much they farmed) it certainly would have stopped the huge freaver trains and folks dropping off the map behind OR and Grothum to be undisturbed in their exploits and speeding through Ranks which now makes everyone's legitimate rank absolutely useless. Leader board was such a simple tool to control and I refuse to believe that SSG don't have data on this privately. They either choose to ignore it or they see no reason to assign resource to monitor it.

    Yes, Rank has absolutely no meaning. Unless you know the player intimately you can never be sure that they have obtained their ranks through intended gameplay. Therefore, I state again that this is absolutely the best time to do something about it. I have a sneaky feeling that Orion may be building up to something in this regards but probably has to wait until the management know whether they can monetize the zone enough. It really does hang in the balance currently but making the zone F2P may draw in more folks but also that could equal more cheats if not handled correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LabadalofDorlomin View Post
    Within the story it could fit also being that there would now be new factions to follow on both sides. Do we really think that Gramsfoot would be still in a timewarp not knowing about Angmar and beyond?
    I like the idea that it is time to change the factions and now earn rank once again from the standpoint of a new faction for both sides.

    Freeps could join an initial faction that wanted to rid creeps from middle earth following the fall of the ring but iirc it was written somewhere that after some years Aragorn allowed the remaining Orcs live in peace in and around Rhun (or I could have dreampt that )

    Creeps could realise that Angmar is long gone and now Sauron has fallen and therefore a new leader would arise to try and consolidate the Ettenmoor for themselves as again we know that in and around the Misty Mountains there were pockets of orcs and goblins who survived and hid in communes within the mountain holds.


    So, this would seem like a good time to address the issue of Rank. Whether you feel that it should be increased or nullified due to all the mass cheating over the years.. we could really do with a new start. IMHO
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    as someone who has played since launch and has a couple r12's and a r13, i would be extremely upset if they just threw all that time served out the window.

    what makes you think moving forward they would be any better at policing rank farming than they have in the past?

    No, theres bigger problems with keeping pvmp viable going forward than rank farmers, i mean they wont stop boxing in pvp so rank farming has got to be far down that list.

    its also way to subjective, are arranged 1v1 fights rank farming? what about arranged fights in the arena? what about the boxer who loves pvmp but is really bad and dies alot?

    its also completely irrelevant since LOTRO has no pvp seasons, no meaningful rewards and last but not least there are no leaderboards.

    so basically who cares if someone rank farms? you know who did it in your community so its not like they are instantly top tier players loved by all now does it?
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