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  1. #1
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    So you guys are pretty smart...

    I'd like your feedback on this idea:

    http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...99#post4683599

    Obviously there are other issues surrounding CJs in the moors...and this isn't NEARLY as important, one could suggest NOT important, out there.

    But I'm interested to see what people think.

    It really sounded like a great idea to us the other night.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    I'm all for this. I mean when I can pause to take a sip of coffee while waiting for the CJ to execute, that's a bit long. I say Delegate the action to the CJ starter (and this is not b/c I'm a burglar :P) since they're already "on target" and facing the target (that has kept me out of many a CJs).

    Excellent point, Luc.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    Sounds good, what about a downside for those ******* that only cj to escape... If they don't hit the fire button then some default damage delt to them and others involved!... Like a ghostly image of a disgruntled defiler hitting them in the junk with their staves.

    Yeah.... Junk hit.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    It makes a certain amount of sense. I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Personally though, it's already Lord of the Stuns out in the moors anyways, i'd love to see Turbine do away with every single stun to all classes when they're out there.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruthelia View Post
    It makes a certain amount of sense. I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Personally though, it's already Lord of the Stuns out in the moors anyways, i'd love to see Turbine do away with every single stun to all classes when they're out there.

    I promise you do not want them to remove all stuns from the moors. I know the feeling, it seems like the obvoius answer but it isnt.

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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    I agree that the idea of removing stuns or even curtailing any cc in a major way would be counter productive.

    However I think there are some very legitimate reasons for the CJ mechanic to be closely examined both PvMP and PvE side.

    The magnitude of top level CJ effects hasn't been scaled properly since L50.

    Treating CJs as different from a stun is problematic.

    They feel clumsy and akward under the new faster dps combat speed.

    Not to mention the PvMP problem with having only one form of unstoppable inescapable CC in the hands of just a few classes.

    Anyhow I'd suggest the whole system is due for an examination. And in doing so adding something cool like a fire now button would be a good thing.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    Interesting idea for freep gameplay, even in PvE play this would have merit. On the creep side it is of less interest as we seldom have a raid or group going....and if your going to fire off a cj in a large battle and have all your opponents beat on you while you sit there inactive...bad idea at best.

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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    Quote Originally Posted by DraganOfRyzom View Post
    Interesting idea for freep gameplay, even in PvE play this would have merit. On the creep side it is of less interest as we seldom have a raid or group going....and if your going to fire off a cj in a large battle and have all your opponents beat on you while you sit there inactive...bad idea at best.
    IMHO this really is ONLY a PvE suggestion.

    The usefullness of CJs in the moors currently is only for the stun and only secondarily as a HoT.

    Of course it'd have ramifications in PvMP...but IMHO people wouldn't likely push that button in PvMP very often, they'd just wait for the stun to go the entire duration.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    Quote Originally Posted by Thane9 View Post
    IMHO this really is ONLY a PvE suggestion.

    The usefullness of CJs in the moors currently is only for the stun and only secondarily as a HoT.

    Of course it'd have ramifications in PvMP...but IMHO people wouldn't likely push that button in PvMP very often, they'd just wait for the stun to go the entire duration.
    I'm more of a fan of the DoT from a CJ. I want him dead even if it costs me mine.
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    Re: So you guys are pretty smart...

    Please stop making multiple threads on the same topics. If it continues I will lock them all, including the originals and start handing out infractions.

 

 

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