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  1. #1
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    Skill and Power nerf

    Kudos Turbine. The nerf to "Skill and Power"
    is going to gut our already pathetically anemic
    dps. The loss of +30% damage to all of our gambits
    destroys any hope of us being a viable class
    in this game. I am so mad at this huge uncalled for
    nerf that I am going to quit playing this
    game and go play AoC!!!

    Click Me!
    .
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    I can't decide if this is a joke or not...
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    [color=green][b]Gloarn[/b][/color] 80 Burglar [color=grey]|[/color] [color=green][b]Glorn[/b][/color] 75 Champion [color=grey]|[/color] [color=green][b]Gloirn[/b][/color] 75 Rune-keeper [color=grey]|[/color] [color=green][b]Glourn[/b][/color] 75 Captain
    [color=brown][b]Glarnakh[/b][/color] R7 Warleader [color=grey]|[/color] [color=brown][b]Glarno[/b][/color] R6 Reaver
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by japridemor View Post
    Kudos Turbine. The nerf to "Skill and Power"
    is going to gut our already pathetically anemic
    dps. The loss of +30% damage to all of our gambits
    destroys any hope of us being a viable class
    in this game. I am so mad at this huge uncalled for
    nerf that I am going to quit playing this
    game and go play AoC!!!

    Click Me!
    ROTFLMAO...

    You keep using that trait, I do not think it does what you think it does.
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by cpdm View Post
    ROTFLMAO...

    You keep using that trait, I do not think it does what you think it does.
    I think he knows exactly what he is talking about :P

    Been far to long. I missed this kind of thread.
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by Drglory View Post
    I think he knows exactly what he is talking about...
    Me too. Laughing with, as opposed to laughing at.
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Can any of you replying to this thread
    offer even one idea as to why one of
    our most useful traits has been gutted by the
    kind devs? I am so frustrated that,
    yes, I am going to cancel my annual
    subscription!!!
    .
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    /slowclap bravo

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by japridemor View Post
    Can any of you replying to this thread
    offer even one idea as to why one of
    our most useful traits has been gutted by the
    kind devs? I am so frustrated that,
    yes, I am going to cancel my annual
    subscription!!!
    Obviously, Skill and Power (AKA "S&P") S&P has done something to anger the devs, who are really the "government" of LOTRO. S&P, of course, is really just a commentary on the overall state of the game, a reflection of the choices the government has made. So getting angry at S&P and trying to smack it down isn't going to help anybody. They should've launched an investigation into S&P before taking such rash action against it.

    Wait, I'm confused as to what I'm talking about.
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Fools such as yourself that rely on such an ez mode trait
    enjoy a level of power that turbine never intended this class to
    reciprocate. I also suggest that you take the time to
    read the tooltip of that trait, I think you will find it is less
    effective than you are claiming it to be. After that,
    try some of the other, more skill requiring traits,
    see if that improves your ability as a warden more.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by japridemor View Post
    Can any of you replying to this thread
    offer even one idea as to why one of
    our most useful traits has been gutted by the
    kind devs? I am so frustrated that,
    yes, I am going to cancel my annual
    subscription!!!

    Is it not obvious ? Come on japi - just look at the name...

    For years now, we all have had to hear how "Wardens have no Skill". Years... And the devs do listen to people, so they had to initially change the skill to just "Power". (note, I know some wadens do have skill, I'm talking about wardens here. And using your pet ferret to face-roll on your keyboard is not considered skill)

    But, many of us have had power issues, on and off, over the years as well... It looks bad having issues, so "Power" had to go...

    So, now we are left with a skill with No-Name ?!?! Now, devs (or in general, programmers) are inherently lazy. (I know, I am a programmer). All they do is optimize code, to make it faster, or simpler, or such in the name of laziness. Hell, a programmer will WRITE a program to type "Hello World!" just because we are too lazy to SAY "Hello World!". So, we have this No-Name skill, but that is not good... So, the quick fix for that (read lazy) is to REMOVE the skill... So, bye-bye old S&P !

    But then, some other dev, created a new skill... course, this skill needed a name as well... And since the name, "Skill and Power" was not only not being used, but was never properly copyrighted (and the dev is lazy by birth-right and profession), the new skill is called "Skill and Power"...

    Just don't confuse the new "Skill and Power" skill with the old "Skill and Power" skill... That is like as bad as confusing Coke Classic with New Coke ( or cocaine even...)

    /derail

    Dev Diaries are slinking in again... Hopefully, we will see a Warden one from Orion soon

    Edit: and where is the real Regero, I don't believe that post above was made by the real Regero (course, if it is, welcome back ???)
    Last edited by Fleez; Aug 25 2011 at 03:49 PM.
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    People, are you telling me that now I
    have to give up my 14 combination and actually learn
    a gambit? Please tell me you are not
    serious about this as I have a complete
    inability to learn how to do more than just faceroll or
    to push things that are off cooldown. I keep trying to
    read what my skills are supposed to do but
    between turbines wonderful descriptions and
    the lack of time I care to spend reading
    lines of text, I still feel 14 should be all I ever push.
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleez View Post
    Edit: and where is the real Regero, I don't believe that post above was made by the real Regero (course, if it is, welcome back ???)
    Lulz, no its me. I started College and until things settled down I couldn't get on. Now that I have my schedule down and know whats going on though I'm starting to be able to find lotro time again.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by japridemor View Post
    Kudos Turbine. The nerf to "Skill and Power"
    is going to gut our already pathetically anemic
    dps. The loss of +30% damage to all of our gambits
    destroys any hope of us being a viable class
    in this game. I am so mad at this huge uncalled for
    nerf that I am going to quit playing this
    game and go play AoC!!!

    Click Me!
    Is this a spin off of my comment in this thread

    Oh missed the click me before
    lol

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    People, are you telling me that now I
    have to give up my 14 combination and actually learn
    a gambit? Please tell me you are not
    serious about this as I have a complete
    inability to learn how to do more than just faceroll or
    to push things that are off cooldown. I keep trying to
    read what my skills are supposed to do but
    between turbines wonderful descriptions and
    the lack of time I care to spend reading
    lines of text, I still feel 14 should be all I ever push.
    So true :/

    Obviously, Skill and Power (AKA "S&P") S&P has done something to anger the devs, who are really the "government" of LOTRO. S&P, of course, is really just a commentary on the overall state of the game, a reflection of the choices the government has made. So getting angry at S&P and trying to smack it down isn't going to help anybody. They should've launched an investigation into S&P before taking such rash action against it.

    Wait, I'm confused as to what I'm talking about.
    Ocasw? i'm confused.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    No, no, no, it's ASWD! I think. And you don't push - you use the mouse and click! Also be sure to slot your Muster to Suri Kyla just above the spear icon, especially if you're tanking a difficult boss.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by Regero View Post
    Lulz, no its me. I started College and until things settled down I couldn't get on. Now that I have my schedule down and know whats going on though I'm starting to be able to find lotro time again.
    Ah, Collage... The place of higher learning, learning how to properly balance study and party (yep, still trying to perfect that one )

    Good Luck (and have fun !)
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Oh how I've missed a good "warden" thread Clearly the OP was dropped on his head.

    Learn to READ people.
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Great thread guys. You get cookys!
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    The results of exhaustive testing
    have shown that the +30% DPS applied
    every time "Skill and Power"

    gets used is the bread and butter that
    really makes our class shine. Each and
    every build that doen't currently include
    a useful trait like this is, in my opinion,
    totally gimped. Now with our future

    class change, this mandatory gambit
    has totally changed, ruining all builds
    including it. "Skill and Power" beats
    conviction as a core mechanic. If you
    keep applying it, its a no brainer that the
    extra +30% Damage, as it stands
    now, is our best trait.
    Last edited by japridemor; Aug 26 2011 at 01:26 PM. Reason: Must not Laugh!
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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by japridemor View Post
    The results of exhaustive testing
    have shown that the +30% DPS applied
    every time "Skill and Power"

    gets used is the bread and butter that
    really makes our class shine. Each and
    every build that doen't currently include
    a useful trait like this is, in my opinion,
    totally gimped. Now with our future

    class change, this mandatory gambit
    has totally changed, ruining all builds
    including it. "Skill and Power" beats
    conviction as a core mechanic. If you
    keep appling it, its a no brainer that the
    extra +30% Damage, as it stands
    now, is our best trait.
    Totally agree 100% The Great Chicken even trumps ferrets
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by japridemor View Post
    The results of exhaustive testing
    have shown that the +30% DPS applied
    every time "Skill and Power"

    gets used is the bread and butter that
    really makes our class shine. Each and
    every build that doen't currently include
    a useful trait like this is, in my opinion,
    totally gimped. Now with our future

    class change, this mandatory gambit
    has totally changed, ruining all builds
    including it. "Skill and Power" beats
    conviction as a core mechanic. If you
    keep applying it, its a no brainer that the
    extra +30% Damage, as it stands
    now, is our best trait.
    I'll ask, b/c I don't mind the riducule....

    So I thought I was supposed to read the first word from every line to make a coherent statement.

    What does "The have every gets really ever a totally class has including conviction keep extra now" mean?

    What am I doing wrong? Should I start a new main and ditch my warden? Tell me! Please

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Try to understand that
    the warden community
    first must learn their
    letters to understand.
    Nerves, of the Brandywine.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    /bowsheadinshame

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    If you can't read this, have your R back

    Oh our memes ^
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    Originally Posted by [B]Graalx2 [/B]-Directed at Wardens!
    You guys!!! There is such a thing as being too efficient.

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    Re: Skill and Power nerf

    Quote Originally Posted by LtDiablo View Post
    If you can't read this, have your R back

    Oh our memes ^
    I could read it but added r to sig anyway for my earlier lapse in warden meme theory.

 

 
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