Tracking an Old Goat

[RillosTheElf]

Okay, so I got Andreg's whistle, and followed the first quests he gave me, which ultimately took me to the Rohirim camp and I powered through the quest completions, in my eagerness to get to 75. Now I look at the deed mentioned in the title, and see 4 quests I need to complete for it. I asked others and they said Andreg gives them in certain locations while he's summoned, like the ones in Annuminas. My whistle has gone, how do I complete the deed and get the virtue! Others say it warned that you wouldn't be able to complete them if you finished the quest at the Rohirim camp, what's the point in that!

Highly frustrating, I'm sure enough people will have raced through this part, there's only so much quest reading I can do with all the quests given in RoI, especially when half of them have stupid objectives like... "collect slug meat".

In my opinion you should be able to complete the quests regardless, why do we have the multi-layer dynamic thing? Let me go back to the previous layer and complete them! A lot of people are complaining that he doesn't give the quests if you're in the right location with him summoned anyway.

[darkalice]

Wow I didn't even know! I just skimmed over it but didn't see a warning... guess that makes two of us that can't complete the deed.

[whheydt]

Finally...a rewarding experience for those of us who like to actually pay attention to the game, read the quest text, and savor the plot lines....

--W. H. Heydt

Old Used Programmer

[darkalice]

Finally...a rewarding experience for those of us who like to actually pay attention to the game, read the quest text, and savor the plot lines....

--W. H. Heydt

Old Used Programmer

Yes but at the expense of players with a different play style. Yeah that's fair.

On my main I try to get content done as quickly as possible so that I can join the raids that much quicker. I have several alts so I read when I have the time to do so but I don't think I should have to change my play style to complete all deeds in the game.

[TheCorbinator]

Alright this entire deed concept is so beyond epic fail that I think my head just exploded...

You mean to tell me that me, a completionist who has done every deed in the game, gets bugged out on the Hunting the Pack quest (i.e. doesn't receive it) and then turns in the whistle...and I am STUCK with a deed that offers a VIRTUE indefinately?

This is baffling.

What about the players who did blitz to 75 for raid/moors content, and will eventually come back to clean out their deed logs? They are forever stuck with this thing because they didn't do 'all' of the offered quests?

I read the quests, and I take my time. I was never offered one of the quests, and now I am stuck with the deed.

Epic fail... Please fix this when you can, Turbine...because it's going to drive me nuts.
And while we're on the subject, fix the blasted Trum Dreng quest count, please.

Real quick: Here's the quick fix, Turbine...
Make the stationary NPC (Andreg) offer the quests involving the deed... That way you can do them with him in your pocket, or flying solo. But whatever or however you do it: MAKE THE QUESTS AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES!

[Tuarwen_Telumendil]

What an epic fail...

at least, the quest description should say something about it.

Thanks Turbine, just lost 4 quests and a deed

[Berth]

I ran around with him for like 30 minutes because I wanted to complete the deed but never got the "cruel traps" one. I thought maybe that one would come later because the warning only says that currently active quests from andreg are cancelled...
Too bad, I also like my deed log clean. Please make the quest available from andreg later, when he is stationary.

[Namesse]

I've run around for an hour, killing mobs, re-summoning Andreg, and he still won't give me more quests.

Luckily, I was warned by my kinmates how this worked.

[RillosTheElf]

At least it's not just me then :/

[Wyvernclaw]

I hate this system so easy to miss things.

[Linwellin]

/Signed

I read the description but I'm pretty sure I only had the 'Continue' button on the quest panel.

Therefore assumed I could just continue but not hand in the quest, a bit like the Doors of Moria ones that are clearly marked expeditiary quests. Now like a lot of people I'm also stuck with this deed.

As someone mentioned please allow the quests to be taken from the stationary NPC.

[.Onji.]

I ran trough the quests without reading much, and completed the deed.. Luck I guess, with the different locations. (didnt even know you had to be at different ones to get the quests)

[Thornpaw]

Andreg only had one other quest, the goo collection quest, so I made sure I handed it in before the quest with the red warning text. I thought he would come back later with more quests for the deed. I didn't understand that I would lose out like this. I hope they fix it so that everyone can do it. I hate having open deeds in my log (thankful for the tasks for this reason). I actually read all the text, I just didn't understand the game's mechanics. I don't think I should be penalized for it.

[Ellyllon]

I haven't turned it in yet, but he's not giving me anything past ooze.

[Adanedor]

Same here.

I was actually checking if there were more quests but eventually turned it in.

I was only missing the evil dog ones...

Either delete the deed from my log or let us complete it.

Next time make him give all the quests at once...

Thanks.

[Isilmacil]

Jeez, sorry to hear that that happened I had heard in beta that you'd have to have those quests completed to advance (guess I was wrong).

So I'm not sure whether a GM could re bestow the missing ones onto you or not. If not, at least there is always another toon to try it on perhaps

(On a side note, signature's for toons 66+ look pretty cool now).

[TheCorbinator]

Jeez, sorry to hear that that happened I had heard in beta that you'd have to have those quests completed to advance (guess I was wrong).

So I'm not sure whether a GM could re bestow the missing ones onto you or not. If not, at least there is always another toon to try it on perhaps

(On a side note, signature's for toons 66+ look pretty cool now).

There is no positive light to this.

GM's will shut down the ticket the moment you submit it (trust me, I tried).
I have ONE character, and I don't want another.

Now what? I'm stuck with a deed I can't complete?
Let's not even begin to discuss the idiocy of tethering a VIRTUE to the deed. Sure, my honour is 15 atm, but that doesn't change the principle of actually applying a virtue to a questionable deed at best.

Fail Turbine, epic fail.
Fix it please!

[Aeggil]

I read the description but I'm pretty sure I only had the 'Continue' button on the quest panel.

Indeed. I was aware of the deed and was trying to complete it, I had 2 remaining to do (traps and orcs I couldn't find) when suddenly I have a page saying if I complete the next quest I will be unable to call him any more, and ONLY a continue button...press the only button available and he goes bye-bye along with the whistle.

At best it is unclear and very frustrating now having a deed which I can't complete, I don't think I am to blame, I read the warning and wasn't going to hand in, but when you only have a continue button to press what are you meant to do?

C

[Ruination44]

I was a bit short on quests while leveling so it would have been nice to have a few more to do but there's nothing I can do about it now. Would prefer it if the deed would disappear though. Not much sense in having an uncompletable deed in my listing.

[erikave]

I ran around all over the area where he's useable for a long time, checking him repeatedly for more quests, and he never had any. I was able to complete the craban quest and the abominable goo (whatever it was called), and that's it, aside from the main one that ended the quest line. I figured that it must continue later on to complete the deed, but apparently not. Ridiculous.

[Wyvernclaw]

They should give all the quests at once or one after another you should not have to rely on being at just the right spot to get the quest this didn't work with the annuminas one so why the hell did they decide to bring it here and worse still tether a deed to it?

[Gunsman]

Same thing. tryed a long time at many locations but wont give me new quests. maybe someone has an idea :/

[Padraig_Eldar]

For me I saw that there were more quests that could be done with him and ran around the forrest, trying to start them. At that time didn't know there was a deed for it, and after thinking I had been everywhere and finished all the quests, I got rid of him. Only noticed later the deed and am sorely disappointed won't be able to finish it. (Tracking an old goat 6/7 )

[sirwillow]

There are some deeds that are not updating properly and thus not allowing for completion. I don't know if this is one of them or not, but it might be.

In any case, they should have it set where there are more than enough quests in an area to finish a deed- maybe not by much, but have enough so that if you miss a few for whatever reason you can still finish it.

[Berephon]

There are some deeds that are not updating properly and thus not allowing for completion. I don't know if this is one of them or not, but it might be.

In any case, they should have it set where there are more than enough quests in an area to finish a deed- maybe not by much, but have enough so that if you miss a few for whatever reason you can still finish it.

The deed is specifically there to list the quests needed to complete it. It was added because people in Beta were complaining about not knowing whether they found all the discoverables (which are completely optional and do not affect the division quest deed) or not. I am beginning to regret adding it.

There are only three discoverables, and the quest clearly indicates you cannot complete the discoverables after completing the main quest. This is no different than Annuminas. It also clearly indicates what route to follow (basically bee-line to the quest guide, which crosses the discoverable hotspots for all quests).

I cannot emphasize more to READ THE QUESTS. If you don't, then you miss what the game is all about and miss any guidance and instruction. That's not going to change.