TURBINE: Did U6 revert lootboxes to the pre-U5.2 loot list?

[PropJoe]

A response from a Blue name would be nice.

[CoopertheBudgie]

Saw someone get a purple dye yesterday from a lvl 70 box, so I'd say yes, they have reverted.

[Laerien]

Several lvl 70 boxes did appear in the Auction House in Imladris (overpriced of course), seems people is aware that boxes are no longer droping valuables.

[PropJoe]

Saw someone get a purple dye yesterday from a lvl 70 box, so I'd say yes, they have reverted.

Then it's pretty much confirmed. :/

Now I wonder if it's Bugged or WAI...

[Tamiya]

This is terrible if true.

I deliberately saved a few sets of boxes and keys to use with U6 because of the supposed fixes to the lockboxes stat-tomes and other class-specific gears.

I got nothing but Revival Tomes out of 4 sets of boxes. Now I have to wonder...

[Armitas]

I noticed our "what did you get" thread hasn't had a wsoek post lately, or on my server. I have been wondering the same thing.

I forget did the 5.2 table carry WSoTEK's?

[DestinationLove]

Using the Sturdy Steel Key with the Steel-bound Lootbox.
You have acquired [2 Revival Tomes].

Looks like they're only dropping revival tomes then. I'd like to say I'm surprised, but its just typical Turbine full-of-fail.

Configuration management much?

[Thorebane]

I noticed our "what did you get" thread hasn't had a wsoek post lately, or on my server. I have been wondering the same thing.

I forget did the 5.2 table carry WSoTEK's?

They said Wsothk were still dropping, but have been reduced significantly due to the big chance in chance droppings from ToO.

[Wibz]

Using the Sturdy Steel Key with the Steel-bound Lootbox.
You have acquired [2 Revival Tomes].

Looks like they're only dropping revival tomes then. I'd like to say I'm surprised, but its just typical Turbine full-of-fail.

Configuration management much?

Seems like there's a lot of changes from the previous patch missing from U6. I think someone forget to merge the changes into the U6 build, which its really poor software management and something turbine repeatedly seems to do.

[PropJoe]

They said Wsothk were still dropping, but have been reduced significantly due to the big chance in chance droppings from ToO.

Source?

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[Thorebane]

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[Malachi108]

Here's my criteria: post-update 5.2 Auction House had at least 3-5 Stat Tomes every time - you could tell because they had gold background and now white, I even got one myself. Monday-Wednesday that number dropped to 1-2 and now there are none. Meaning at least Stat Tomes drop rate went down.

But then, someone one my server got a WSOTEK today, so they do still drop.

I would advise against buying any keys/boxes given that new info. If you get some in loot, might as well open, but don't waste gold on it.

[Roberto_the_First]

Using the Sturdy Steel Key with the Steel-bound Lootbox.
You have acquired [2 Revival Tomes].

Looks like they're only dropping revival tomes then. I'd like to say I'm surprised, but its just typical Turbine full-of-fail.

Configuration management much?

One instance = all instances?

[Oblique]

And here I thought it was just my "superiorly" bad luck that all I've gotten from level 70+ lootboxes was barely more than ####. I'll be advised not to waste any more gold on those at least in the near future.

I was uninformed enough to have wasted gold on 4 boxes this past week (and wasted gold on keys as well cuz not a single box was even kind enough to drop a key for another shot). Having opened a small number of boxes prior to this and had bad luck, I figured maybe with 4 chances at once, I'd get that coveted WSoTEK - I dream, I know - or at least something else of some decent value or use. Heh, nope.

Explain to me why they deem a Frost-Antler Stand housing yard item something anyone wants to drop from a minimum 75/maximum 75 lootbox (yep, the box was 75 on both counts rather than 70/75, so I thought it my best shot at a WSoTEK). Please, anyone?! I don't get it. And yes, that was the ONLY thing in the box.

I really think they need to re-visit their thought processes on all things lootbox-related. Re-visit. Revamp. Inform.

[jadacakai]

My defiler recently got...

A box in a box in a box, so I think they are bugged!




Dumb auto correct.

[Crell_1]

I noticed our "what did you get" thread hasn't had a wsoek post lately, or on my server. I have been wondering the same thing.

I forget did the 5.2 table carry WSoTEK's?

I can confirm that the 5.0 table carried WSoTEKs, so that's no judge of anything.

[Morgunthor]

Yeah lootboxes are worthless now. I got a dread removal token and 8 tier 5 power potions from a level 50-59 chest. Those items are for level 30-40... how useless for my level 56 char.

Another chest, level 50-59 I got a scrolls that add extra damage against giants on any weapon and 5.. count em 5, 50 rep iron garrison guard rep token...

[Crell_1]

With the creation of L75-L75 boxes, its possible the L70-75 table was intentionally made junkier.

We dont have enough data on the L75-l75 boxes to know 1. Whether or not they have a seperate drop rate from prior teirs (and their existance invalidates or at least calls into question any of my pre-u6 mob killing... 2. Whether or not they're markedly improved from the L70-L75 table 3. Whether or not its a chance to get a L70-L75 or a L75 when killing a L75 mob (because I sure havent seen a L75-L75 on ridder yet, and most of the boxes have come from the new zone.)

[Vandervahn]

...
.. turbine, .. u in the ear.

Well, it was you who fell for the gamble.

In any case, the rollback of the lootboxes seems a direct result of all the complaints from lootbox friends about non-fitting items and whatnot from it, and there were more important things to do than revamp this. So you guys really have noone else to blame. You didnt like your shinies, so there are no more shinies. I´d rather have the devs fix the most grievant game errors than some gambling loot tables.

[Lambs]

I got a dwarf-made circlet from a 75 loot box. I would have been happier with a piece of jeweler for the wrong class.

[Kongas]

Well, it was you who fell for the gamble.

In any case, the rollback of the lootboxes seems a direct result of all the complaints from lootbox friends about non-fitting items and whatnot from it, and there were more important things to do than revamp this. So you guys really have noone else to blame. You didnt like your shinies, so there are no more shinies. I´d rather have the devs fix the most grievant game errors than some gambling loot tables.

Jesus. There's always someone isn't there? always someone to say no matter what - it's not Turbine's fault but ours.

Yes, of course it's our fault Turbine introduced a box and key reward system with a TP unlock system and then set up loot tables that defeat Turbine's own object of making money from the Store. Of course it's our fault they are unable to do something as simple as a level and class appropriate loot table that allocates something not rubbish to those rare souls who find a box. Because loot-tables really are at the total cutting edge of programming it must take entire teams of programmers working in shifts to set up an if then else statement to drive a RND function to make two or three picks from a table containing item ID's.

[Manona]

In any case, the rollback of the lootboxes seems a direct result of all the complaints from lootbox friends about non-fitting items and whatnot from it, and there were more important things to do than revamp this. So you guys really have noone else to blame. You didnt like your shinies, so there are no more shinies. I´d rather have the devs fix the most grievant game errors than some gambling loot tables.

As a matter of fact the rollback of the lootboxes seems to be a direct result of the fact, that Turbine based their update on a former version of the game, since fixed bugs show up again (f.e. minstrels cleanup other minstrels ballad-tiers again if in same group).

That´s not the first time this is happening and after so much years you should assume that this failure in develop updates should be realized and avoided, but it´s not and yes this is more than a little bit sad.

But you are way to busy to hold up the Turbine-Banner to notice that I guess.

[Stigger32]

Dear Loot-box reward developer guy/gal/personage......

Re: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?435978-Steel-Bound-Loot-Box-what-did-you-get/page40

That is where you will find all the evidence...

[Vandervahn]

Jesus. There's always someone isn't there? always someone to say no matter what - it's not Turbine's fault but ours....

...
But you are way to busy to hold up the Turbine-Banner to notice that I guess.

I´m rather holding up a mirror. But paint it as you wish if it makes you feel good.

Do you think it was healthy that servers sunk into a collective grindfest to farm gambleboxes? Whichever server you were on after the former loot update, it seems the Lockbox hunt held everything in its grip.

As a matter of fact the rollback of the lootboxes seems to be a direct result of the fact, that Turbine based their update on a former version of the game, since fixed bugs show up again ...

The patch notes state that all equipment has been removed from the loot, by "player wish". One easy way to do this is to revert to the former table.

[Fuin]

My theory is quite simple. Turbine upped box droprate and reverted to previous lootable. Why?

1. *Ka-ching*!
2. To not flood players with mounts, stat tomes, 1st/2nd agers and similar neat loot.

After all you can't let everyone win, just enough to make people drool and buy keys in store.