URGENT DONT RELEASE THE BEORNING CLASS ON 5th NOV

[DorinOlright]

Hi

To my horror I have seen that the update 15 will go live on the 5th of NOV.

We need more time to test the Beorning class at lv100 with end game content.

I cannot afford to take too much time of work to level the class to 100.

I have done 3 man instances and quests to level up to test how the class works at lower levels.

We really need to have the NPC auto level up to 100.

There are so many issues with interrupt skills, I am very concerned with the limited skills and easy button mashing combinations.

I was fortunate to level 100 in beta 1 and look at mounted combat with my beorn and found a few power restore issues. We need good month of proper BB testing, Ettens and raid testing on beta with in groups.

Please don't release a half baked class into a game with some many discontented players already. People will power level on live to get to 100 fast and find so many issues at end game. Starwars made this horrible mistake when first going live with their content. They were expecting people to reach max level a lot slower and were not prepared to find some many high level players wanting more.

Wait another month the (ofcourse we all know) final part Hobbit is in Dec. Its a more perfect time to release the class. Get some exclusive screen shots of beorn in the movie make ( im mean Christ its
Warner Bros. Pictures ) a big Promo deal of it. GET the Class right considering Helms Deep was such a disaster

[Macroscian]

I'm sure it has been extensively tested at all levels of game-play way before being released to Bullroarer.

[Herwegur]

I'm sure it has been extensively tested at all levels of game-play way before being released to Bullroarer.

I see what you did there

[Tirian-Hammerfist]

I'm sure it has been extensively tested at all levels of game-play way before being released to Bullroarer.

Undoubtedly it has, but that really doesn't make up for a lack of beta testing at level 100. Its not just the release of the Beorning so soon that's a problem - the lack of a 6 man version of the Pelargir BB means that this update is going out without ANY fellowship content whatsoever (warbands really don't count), and this is bad news for the many players that see this as part of their playstyle.

[Cableknitdragon]

Beornings definitely needed at least 1 more build with new skirmish and crafted items at least. Would it have been nice to have more testing at level 100 - yes yes yes. Though I suspect Turbine's going for the RELEASE THE BEARS NOW and beat the bugs and issues out afterwards (seems pretty on par with releases lately)

And as much as I HATE epic battles, the 6 man version should have been tested too for bugs. Also a mac bullroarer client would have been nice too >_>

[Dernudan]

Beornings definitely needed at least 1 more build with new skirmish and crafted items at least. Would it have been nice to have more testing at level 100 - yes yes yes. Though I suspect Turbine's going for the RELEASE THE BEARS NOW and beat the bugs and issues out afterwards (seems pretty on par with releases lately)

And as much as I HATE epic battles, the 6 man version should have been tested too for bugs. Also a mac bullroarer client would have been nice too >_>

There is still time for one more beta build, but I highly doubt that will be enough.

[Jousimies]

We've had 3 beta builds and none of those (not counting the last night of build 1) had the option to auto-level a Beorning. I played it during build 1 and actually quested and reported bugs. Now, I don't want to level a Beorning after doing it in build 1, I want to get to level cap and get all the trait points, so I could test it in end-game. Or does turbine want us to level Beornings forever and never hit level cap on live? Certainly this beta round wasn't planned very well, as usual.

[Grimdoin_EU]

Hmmm don't remember seeing an official announcement for Nov 5th. Link?

[Nimrinoth]

Remember, BR is more of a preview server then an actual beta server. Turbine will release the update when they want to, not when the "beta testers" think they should. Also turbine is probably working a few builds ahead of what is on BR. So it is possible that they have already polished things up for live.

[Zippy10521]

Hmmm don't remember seeing an official announcement for Nov 5th. Link?

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/10...ext-wednesday/

[Vulcwen]

There is still time for one more beta build, but I highly doubt that will be enough.

No there isn't.. 5 Nov is next week, so once this closes they will prepare for launch. And even if they can put in another build for a few days, any feedback will be too late to actually have impact the live build.

EDIT: Ok.. apparently there is, but I find it weird that they push in another build last-second where the feedback has about 0 chance to have effect of what is going live, except for some really really small fixes perhaps.

[Coruven]

WHO LET THE BEARS OUT? WHO? WHO... WHO?

Eh, someone had to say it. :-D

[Othniel]

I, too, would feel far more comfortable with at least another week of testing with Beornings at level cap to see how they perform with all traits and skills in multiple types of content. I am also disappointed that there won't be a 6-man version of Pelargir upon release. I hope that is a priority for 15.1.

[PKCrichton]

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/10...ext-wednesday/

Turbine Do NOT do this.

We need at least 2 or 3 more builds to make sure everything at all levels are working well. We have not had auto leveling enabled so most testing has been below level 60.

You cannot accurately test Beornings in Epic Battles until they are level 85+ because they don't have enough trait points to test their trait lines fully.

Releasing this early is a MAJOR MISTAKE.

[Xhiu]

Turbine Do NOT do this.

We need at least 2 or 3 more builds to make sure everything at all levels are working well. We have not had auto leveling enabled so most testing has been below level 60.

You cannot accurately test Beornings in Epic Battles until they are level 85+ because they don't have enough trait points to test their trait lines fully.

Releasing this early is a MAJOR MISTAKE.

I'd agree with this but I doubt seriously anyone at Turbine remembers where the Bullroarer forum is or how to get here.

Only one I'm relatively certain is reading this is MoL.

I have to stop typing now cuz I'm entering a dark place I haven't seen in a decade, that usually gets me banned from game or forum.

[cdq1958]

I want to put in my two coppers here and agree that we need at least two more builds to look at; but if you're going ahead anyway, please smooth things over by giving us a tentative timetable for 15.1. Knowing that in three/four weeks or possibly less time more things are coming (polish, the 6 man, etc.) would help some.

[Tirian-Hammerfist]

http://lotroplayers.com/2014/10/29/i...sing-too-soon/

Interesting discussion on here, and it highlights one of the other major problems with releasing next week - mounted combat is not properly implemented on the Beorning. This is NOT ready for release, especially as its possible for people to get to level 75 within a couple of weeks.

[Nimrinoth]

http://lotroplayers.com/2014/10/29/i...sing-too-soon/

Interesting discussion on here, and it highlights one of the other major problems with releasing next week - mounted combat is not properly implemented on the Beorning. This is NOT ready for release, especially as its possible for people to get to level 75 within a couple of weeks.

One could argue mounted combat isnt implemented properly for any class.

I will say it again, if turbine thinks this is ready to go live then it is ready to go live. I am sure they have cleaned up plenty of stuff that we just haven't seen yet

[Gilean-EU]

I think it's worth pointing out that U15 going live on November 5th is not official yet. Yes, Massively reported it like as they heard the date from Turbine, but we haven't seen any official announcement here on forums yet. So, until we see an announcement, I am not taking this rumoured release date too seriously.

[PKCrichton]

I think it's worth pointing out that U15 going live on November 5th is not official yet. Yes, Massively reported it like as they heard the date from Turbine, but we haven't seen any official announcement here on forums yet. So, until we see an announcement, I am not taking this rumoured release date too seriously.

The article has been up for a day already and Turbine hasn't debunked it. That alone tells me it is the current plan and they are doing everythign they can to keep it there. Seeing but not commenting on our many concerns in the process.

[Tirian-Hammerfist]

I think it's worth pointing out that U15 going live on November 5th is not official yet. Yes, Massively reported it like as they heard the date from Turbine, but we haven't seen any official announcement here on forums yet. So, until we see an announcement, I am not taking this rumoured release date too seriously.

I'm really hoping it isn't official. But the fact that they've not replied suggests that either they've not bothered to come and read these forums (a pretty poor show considering the sizeable amounts of feedback that get put here), or this is the correct release date. And if the latter is the case, then we really do have a problem, due to 1) poor mounted combat, 2) no 6 man BB, and 3) untested Beornings at the cap. While the Helm's Deep expansion doesn't exactly rank highly in LOTRO's history, there was one correct decision made, and that was to postpone the launch. It wasn't a popular decision outside of the beta community at the time, but we could see that the extra time was really necessary, and the devs agreed with us. If it is the case that Nov. 5th is the release date, then I hope they consider pushing this back, because from what I saw in build 3, update 15 is NOT ready. It won't be popular with WB, but then their influence has never exactly been positive for the game in the past.

[PKCrichton]

If this is going LIVE next week where is the Developer Live Stream to Prevew U15. We have had this the last few big updates. It needs to continue.

[tigrjonok]

If this is the case (live 5th of Nov) then all I can say is ... TOLD YOU SO

(I did raise this concern on beta and on several occasions on forums)

Although Turbine has closed invite only based alfa testing, by NO MEANS does that represent the end gamer population on LOTRO.

I can reassure (based on observation, not official announcement directly related to this opinion of mine) you that Turbine will announce that the class is not complete but will be expecting a revamp of the class with u15.1 (or later), and until such time (early December?) all of us have the pleasure to level to lvl 100 without breaking much of the content for the beorning on live.

BB battle reward system still broken? Some features for Beornings still underpowered? Beorning still useless as main class DPS or tank or support (compared to any other existing class in game)? Might be addressed for live (maybe )

And that's the way the cookie crumbles. . .

[Nikolaj27]

You want it to be extended because *you* don't have time to level your class?

Is this a legit thread?

[PKCrichton]

You want it to be extended because *you* don't have time to level your class?

Is this a legit thread?

We have since hijacked the thread with real reasons.