Rohan Housing Recently Discussed - Clarify Timing Please

[istvana]

A recent interview contained the following about the long awaited introduction of Rohan housing:

>So, we’re going to be looking at new housing… probably right after the expansion, in which case we’re looking at Rohan housing around the time… before Rohan comes to the legendary servers.<


This can be read as meaning there will be Rohan housing right after the expansion but I think the more likely reading is it means they will be *looking* at Rohan housing right after the expansion. In other words when they have a bit more free time. With actual implementation of the housing before Rohan hits the legendary servers. Quite likely soon before as part of the building of excitement for Rohan on those servers.

Moria just hit the legendary servers. I am not sure how much they plan to add every 4 months but if one takes 4 months for Moria, 4 for Lothlorien, 4 for Mirkwood/Enedwaith (overlapping levels), 4 for Dunland. 4 for Great River (or maybe not that partially overlaps Dunland) that is darn near a year and a half we have to wait.


A comment on a well known MMO magazine summarized what was said as being we can expect Rohan housing soon after Minas Morgul. Sadly, I do not read it that way - I read it as more like a year after Minas Morgul.

Can any blue name (or anyone else) comment - not on when it will actually happen - that would be an unfair question - but on whether the goal is to *have it* soon after the expansion or whether the goal is to *start work on it* soon after the expansion.

Thanks.

[Nymphonic]

I wonder though how many people would buy it if it's premium. For example, I'm happy with my two Belfalas houses. I was lucky to find two side by side.

[Arnenna]

A recent interview contained the following about the long awaited introduction of Rohan housing:

>So, we’re going to be looking at new housing… probably right after the expansion, in which case we’re looking at Rohan housing around the time… before Rohan comes to the legendary servers.<


This can be read as meaning there will be Rohan housing right after the expansion but I think the more likely reading is it means they will be *looking* at Rohan housing right after the expansion. In other words when they have a bit more free time. With actual implementation of the housing before Rohan hits the legendary servers. Quite likely soon before as part of the building of excitement for Rohan on those servers.

Moria just hit the legendary servers. I am not sure how much they plan to add every 4 months but if one takes 4 months for Moria, 4 for Lothlorien, 4 for Mirkwood/Enedwaith (overlapping levels), 4 for Dunland. 4 for Great River (or maybe not that partially overlaps Dunland) that is darn near a year and a half we have to wait.


A comment on a well known MMO magazine summarized what was said as being we can expect Rohan housing soon after Minas Morgul. Sadly, I do not read it that way - I read it as more like a year after Minas Morgul.

Can any blue name (or anyone else) comment - not on when it will actually happen - that would be an unfair question - but on whether the goal is to *have it* soon after the expansion or whether the goal is to *start work on it* soon after the expansion.

Thanks.

Moria and Lothlorien are both currently live on the legendary servers. My guess is that Mirkwood and Enedwaith will come together next, then Dunland and Gt River after that, but also together. 3 months apart would give us East Rohan in about 6 months time.

It would be good to know when Rohan style housing is coming out. I love that style (though not quite as much as the Beorning style).

[Valakircka]

I wonder though how many people would buy it if it's premium. For example, I'm happy with my two Belfalas houses. I was lucky to find two side by side.

i d love to sse us having new neighborhood! not only in rohan but a dwarf design at the hills out of erebor too!
about being premioum? hell no! i aint buying it!

[Pfeifenkraut]

I wonder though how many people would buy it if it's premium. For example, I'm happy with my two Belfalas houses. I was lucky to find two side by side.

I'll buy it, if it's premium. Rohan is not one of my top choices for a new housing area, but I expect they'll do at least as good of a job as they did with Belfalas, and that I can find something that appeals to me in the new area.

If they make another premium housing area, I'll do my part to support it and make it profitable, so they are more likely to consider making a new Dwarf neighbourhood (or Elf, or maybe lets just say Dwarf) after that.

[Pfeifenkraut]

Moria just hit the legendary servers. I am not sure how much they plan to add every 4 months but if one takes 4 months for Moria, 4 for Lothlorien, 4 for Mirkwood/Enedwaith (overlapping levels), 4 for Dunland. 4 for Great River (or maybe not that partially overlaps Dunland) that is darn near a year and a half we have to wait.

We should expect to be in Mirkwood (and all other level 65 content) in July, just after the Summer festival ends. Then we'll advance to Dunland (and all other level 75 content) and the best cosmetics in the game in November.

We should enter Rohan in the second week of March, 2020. That would be eleven months from now.

Given that timeline, I would expect they'd want to be finished a new housing area before the staff go on December/January vacations, and have it roll out around the same time as a (perhaps December) points sale.

[istvana]

I certainly hope progress on the legendary servers is as fast as some people expect - for the sake of getting new housing areas after all these years.

I have no characters there - I started out with quite a few but so many trolls moved over that chat got as bad as any of the old servers and some of the old ones got better with most of the trolls gone.

I mentioned Rohan because they seem to say it will be the next new area but they also say there will be more after - so those with other interests may be in luck as well.

I try and persuade myself that they are taking so long because they plan on more than a change in appearance - how long could *that* take? Maybe ...just possibly … they will modernize the system entirely and get rid of the hooks - so all the house owners will no longer need to be hookers.

[Strider5548]

I really hate this premium housing nonsense. If you want to make money out of housing, require people to be VIP to buy the house. For people who pay monthly to support this game asking us to pay more money to own a home is ridiculous.

I saw this as someone who spends hundreds on LP each year to support SSG, I have no problem spending money on the game, it's just the direction this game has been going lately, making in game gold practically useless and forcing everyone to purchase everything through the store, it's annoying.

[Lord.Funk]

I really hate this premium housing nonsense. If you want to make money out of housing, require people to be VIP to buy the house. For people who pay monthly to support this game asking us to pay more money to own a home is ridiculous.

I saw this as someone who spends hundreds on LP each year to support SSG, I have no problem spending money on the game, it's just the direction this game has been going lately, making in game gold practically useless and forcing everyone to purchase everything through the store, it's annoying.

In general I agree. Especially that You need to buy it for money and then as well be VIP to not pay upkeep. It's a bit of double dipping. As to requiring to be VIP to own any house would present alot of issues I think. People having a good financial status buys a house then potentially lose their jobs or whatever and then also have to lose a house in a game feels a bit silly. Games should be a retreat from such real life stress. I don't even like the normal upkeep as it requires that You constantly have to think about that. If You take a longer break You lose the house. I understand that if someone quits for good it would also be a problem if their house stood around for ever occupying server space. I guess that is why VIP is required for premium housing too. Alot of people do play games as an escape or break from real life. Should be enough to buy it once and then thats's it in the best of worlds. That is how gaming used to be. You bought a game, paid for it once and then played. Possibly paid for some expansions and that was it. Any bug fixes was free since You paid for a product and it should work, so it was included that they would simply release patches to fix their own bugs. No lootboxes, no store. People have been weaned into thinking all this as we have now is normal. However that is another topic I guess. As for the houses in here, at the same time it's a one time buy for a lifetimer I guess. As someone who is lifetime it's a way to support the game. I don't have any Belfalas housing as I don't like their design. Rohan design is something I do like however. I have acctually saved up on like 30 or so writs to buy a premium house in case they ever release Rohan housing, as it's been discusssd ever since Rohan areas came out. So I will buy one for sure. The writs just sit in my bags or bank somewhere doing nothing. My son will want one too.

There are however other things I would rather pay for, if given the choice, but since those thing have been requested year after year in various threads, not only by me, but never been made and added, or in some cases never added back, I can't buy those and probably never will be able to. If those things haven't been added yet, I doubt they ever will be. The various threads with request from people never even got a single official reply. Not one of them. Of course I'm not sure I have seen all those threads, but at least no reply in those that I have read or even written myself in over the years.

[Lord.Funk]

...I certainly hope progress on the legendary servers is as fast as some people expect - for the sake of getting new housing areas after all these years.

I have no characters there - I started out with quite a few but so many trolls moved over that chat got as bad as any of the old servers and some of the old ones got better with most of the trolls gone...

Oh but didn't some in these forums claim that all the trolls and anoying people in chat were the so called "free loaders" or Free 2 Play players and that the LS would become a retreat from that ???

I never bought into that as I remember how it was back in the days too in regional chats, yes even before Free 2 Play. People will be people. I remember Moria OOC for example. People tend to remember the past in a light of sunshine through rose tinted glasses, like how it never rained on their summer breaks when they were kids. That is of course not correct in most of the cases.

[istvana]

Now that you mention it - I expressed the opinion that there would likely be fewer trolls and very young people on a server with only VIPs. In this, I seem to have been ...imperfectly correct.

Many free players spend more than subscribers they just prefer to spend money a la carte rather than paying every single month whether they can play much that month or not. I would never have even *thought* of them as freeloaders or the like, much less have been rude enough to *say* so even if I did. Which I do not.

But it is a self-evident fact that when people are allowed to play without paying a penny - or a euro - you will get *some* people that do not care at all about the game or their reputation and these people can pollute chat because they tend to be louder than the average player. Since they aren't there to play so much as to troll and enjoy making other people angry or miserable.

[Nymphonic]

Many free players spend more than subscribers they just prefer to spend money a la carte rather than paying every single month whether they can play much that month or not. I would never have even *thought* of them as freeloaders or the like, much less have been rude enough to *say* so even if I did. Which I do not.

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That's kinda like me. I'm lifetime, so I don't have to pay anymore to play as ViP, but I still buy LP on the bonus sales.

[Lord.Funk]

Now that you mention it - I expressed the opinion that there would likely be fewer trolls and very young people on a server with only VIPs. In this, I seem to have been ...imperfectly correct.

Many free players spend more than subscribers they just prefer to spend money a la carte rather than paying every single month whether they can play much that month or not. I would never have even *thought* of them as freeloaders or the like, much less have been rude enough to *say* so even if I did. Which I do not.

But it is a self-evident fact that when people are allowed to play without paying a penny - or a euro - you will get *some* people that do not care at all about the game or their reputation and these people can pollute chat because they tend to be louder than the average player. Since they aren't there to play so much as to troll and enjoy making other people angry or miserable.

I don't even recall the names of those that claimed it. I don't recall You doing it either, so it wasn't personal except as You had just further up posted that LS are full of trolls and I replied using Your statement on that. I have always had a hard time remembering names, faces or phone numbers for that matter, but various opinions expressed I tend to remember. Not always of course. If You were one of those claiming that, You were definetly not alone. Some were indeed very rude and having alot of prejudice towards Free 2 Play players. Again, I can not remember any names and who said what, but that is not the point. I'm glad that You say You were not one of those that were rude in that sense. I agree that You can get "some" that is as You describe with Free 2 Play, but it is also obvious that with a split system where some servers are seen by "some" as being better also creates a type of snobbery in "some" that they belong to a "better" crowd. Kind of like those fenced off settlements with guards and such. It becomes it's own little bubble where they feel they shut the "plebs" out or something like that. Some sense of false safety and being better. It was kind of intersting to see such atttudes emerge in a game over mandatory subscription servers vs. "regular" servers. There seem to be some built in human need to identify or belong to various groups. Either due to some ideology, status or whatever. It was kind of both amusing, sad and interesting at the same time to see some people getting that attitude over game. How easily it was triggered and a certain behaviour surfaced. Almost like that late 60's experiment (or exercise) a teacher, Jane Elliott, performed with a class. I had to Google her name, as I remembered the experient/exercise but not the name of the one conducting it. And quickly created an "us and them" behaviour with one group feeling superior to the other and prejudices surfacing etc. In a group of people who previously sat side by side and had no such issues with each other. At least not on the surface. Very interesting.

I find such things interesting. Which particular individuals that did what is of little interest (to me at least). As I said I tend to forget names and such. It's more the general behaviour I find interesting. I enjoy studying human behaviour. Especially group behavior. No,not in a professional manner, only as a hobby or as a happy amateur. I'm not saying I'm better. I'm just saying that one can learn alot about oneself by studying others. I have learned alot about myself and things I have discovered I want to change by simply studying others. It is easier to notice certain things in others than in oneself, as we often deny things to ourselves. We often tend to have a more flattering self image than what is reality, consciously or unconsciously. Not all of course, but some. That is why it is nice to study others, maybe see things one likes or dislikes in others and then maybe realize that "darn, I'm like that too I don't want to be like that", or "I like how that person is behaving and thinking" and then potentially change ourselves, or at least try. Hopefully for the better. Kind of like using the studying of others in ones own self-reflections. Sometimes it is easier that way, as we can not as easily brush away, deny or justify others behaviour as we do our own.

[Elquasso]

I pay real-life $$$ for a sub, but will not pay real-life $$$ for a bloody virtual house inside of virtual game. Sorry, no thanks. Housing has never been a priority for me. Look at me - a place to show off all of my shinies ! Nope. Not for me.

[Amorey]

It would be good to know when Rohan style housing is coming out. I love that style (though not quite as much as the Beorning style).

Hopefully the new homes will be a mix between the two styles. I will definitely get a house in Rohan for my character on Ithil.

[Cordovan]

The exact timing is too far off to be very specific, but the intention is to work on Rohan-located housing before, on, or around the time of Rohan on the Legendary servers. This puts it likely after the Minas Morgul expansion.

[Nymphonic]

I pay real-life $$$ for a sub, but will not pay real-life $$$ for a bloody virtual house inside of virtual game. Sorry, no thanks. Housing has never been a priority for me. Look at me - a place to show off all of my shinies ! Nope. Not for me.

I like it though. For a role player like me, it's nice. Even now, sometimes I check out my 2 front yards.

[EranodoreAlphemel]

^Agreed about housing being great for RPing. I've been wanting to maybe start RPing with my character from Rohan and it would be awesome for her to have a house in her homeland.

[gildhur]

I wonder though how many people would buy it if it's premium. For example, I'm happy with my two Belfalas houses. I was lucky to find two side by side.

It's definitely going to be premium.

[EranodoreAlphemel]

I don't think people would buy Rohan houses less often than Belfalas houses at all. The Belfalas houses don't match everyone's tastes. They're very big and elegant but personally I'm just not very into them. However I'd definitely buy a Rohan house.

[istvana]

So first half of next year is a reasonable hope - almost surely not this year. Thanks for the reply.

I am almost sure it will be premium housing but, of course, we don't know for certain. When the blessed day comes I will have plenty of mithril coins and a kin with more than enough lifespan for a kinhouse.

[Starstorm01]

Nice to check in and see great news . How about a Rohan fort instead of just a house have a barracks , couple of towers with gate and walls ?

Maybe you could have four forts as kinship housing for each map 1 in each CNR of the map then housing with a market place in the middle

[Aleziana]

I am realy curius on where this house stage would be located. All rohan area is filled with its villages and towns there is no space left in rohan

[ShireDweller]

Now that you mention it - I expressed the opinion that there would likely be fewer trolls and very young people on a server with only VIPs. In this, I seem to have been ...imperfectly correct.

Many free players spend more than subscribers they just prefer to spend money a la carte rather than paying every single month whether they can play much that month or not. I would never have even *thought* of them as freeloaders or the like, much less have been rude enough to *say* so even if I did. Which I do not.

But it is a self-evident fact that when people are allowed to play without paying a penny - or a euro - you will get *some* people that do not care at all about the game or their reputation and these people can pollute chat because they tend to be louder than the average player. Since they aren't there to play so much as to troll and enjoy making other people angry or miserable.

"imperfectly correct" - I love it!

[maartena]

The exact timing is too far off to be very specific, but the intention is to work on Rohan-located housing before, on, or around the time of Rohan on the Legendary servers. This puts it likely after the Minas Morgul expansion.

Based on the 4 months schedule, this would mean...

- Mirkwood/Enedwaidth (65) in July.
- Isengard/Great River (75) in November.
- Rohan/Wildermore (85) in March 2020.

So, Rohan housing probably in roughly 1 year from today.