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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Lestache View Post
    Any confirmation that it stacks, though? I'm not saying that it doesn't, and I hope for your sakes that it does, but I haven't seen anyone post anything regarding the debuff stacking. Perhaps a few of you should get together and go kill some stuff.
    Any Hunters on E with 5/6 feel free to contact me if you want to test out whether it stacks or not. Ideally, going to the moors would be best, and just FF on a Creep who has a few defiler friends.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by NameAlreadyTaken View Post
    Wow, so they went out of their way to code a special check on skill use. I really expected it would check when the damage landed, and that happens 3 times per ISB. When you look at the Champ set bonus that adds a Fervor pip for every Blade Wall crit I really figured ours would check each damage event for the effect as well.

    Color me surprised! It's a sad color.
    I just find that a bit more displeasing now on the set that its slowly a set being aimed just for end game focus and for the raw bonus vs the class skill specific bonus.

    Why not a PS Power Reduction like Moors? Figured that be of use. Although I do like the ISB use bonus.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    I think it's funny that it's tied to ISB as that's the first skill I would queue up if I procced a ranged damage debuff. ISB-PS-MS if possible. The duration means you'll never be able to hit with ISB while the debuff is up unless you've got 2+ 5/6 BG hunters.

    +10% damage, 10% of the time. Correct me if my math is off but what it that, +1% DPS? What is it with that number that everything seems to add 1% damage.

    It's like we as a class are digging through the couch cushions for loose change, hoping to scrounge up a dollar so we can go buy a taco.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Lestache View Post
    Any confirmation that it stacks, though? I'm not saying that it doesn't, and I hope for your sakes that it does, but I haven't seen anyone post anything regarding the debuff stacking. Perhaps a few of you should get together and go kill some stuff.
    I was assuming it did not stack but was instead referring to simply the frequency of the buff proc'ing on mobs (particularly high-morale raid bosses, of course). If it *also* stacked, that would be pretty epic. But even if it doesn't stack, the increased frequency of the buff from 2-3 Hunters makes this a pretty nice set bonus IMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by oogabooga227 View Post
    Any Hunters on E with 5/6 feel free to contact me if you want to test out whether it stacks or not. Ideally, going to the moors would be best, and just FF on a Creep who has a few defiler friends.
    Shoot me a PM whenever and I'll hop out there with ya to test. Except, is there any way to know if it was stacking or not? I haven't tested the proc yet, so if there's no animation or other way to tell when it procs, how would you know? In other words, if your buff procs, and then mine procs, but the debuffs do not stack, is there any way to know for certain that mine proc'd and they weren't stacking, as opposed to mine just not proc'ing?
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by rawlingsst7 View Post
    +10% damage, 10% of the time. Correct me if my math is off but what it that, +1% DPS? What is it with that number that everything seems to add 1% damage.

    Agreed to an extent... +1% dmg for a set bonus isn't bad, but nothing to get too excited about. But this assumes 1 Hunter. Because it's a debuff on the mob's incoming ranged instead of a buff on our outgoing ranged, it makes the proc that much more valuable across a raid with multiple hunters doing ranged dmg. And if you have 1-2 more with the 5-set bonus, then the benefits start to really increase. And all that's still assuming the debuffs cannot stack on top of one another.

    Just sayin'.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by rawlingsst7 View Post
    It's like we as a class are digging through the couch cushions for loose change, hoping to scrounge up a dollar so we can go buy a taco.

    You have to admit, taco's are pretty f'ing tasty.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Don't get me wrong - I loves me some tacos. I just hate having to rustle through the sofa cushions for pennies all the time.

    BG R.Offense set bonus: +1% DPS
    BG 5/6 debuff: +1% DPS
    Crit legacies: ~1% each

    The dev team is ridiculously conservative with anything that could potentially buff hunters. They are scared taco-less of returning to Book 6 days.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by rawlingsst7 View Post
    It's like we as a class are digging through the couch cushions for loose change, hoping to scrounge up a dollar so we can go buy a taco.
    So.. can i quote you in my sig? It's brilliant.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by onyxsunrise View Post
    So.. can i quote you in my sig? It's brilliant.
    Knock yourself out!

    Just please leave some change in the Hunter Class Taco Fund jar on the way out.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Lestache View Post
    I'll trade my set bonus that equals 10% of a class trait that all Champions slot anyway for your 5% chance to apply a debuff that doesn't work yet.
    Actually the champ set bonus is way better than that, it gives you 1 fervour pip per crit on blade wall, for any aoe situation it's insane.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuin View Post
    Actually the champ set bonus is way better than that, it gives you 1 fervour pip per crit on blade wall, for any aoe situation it's insane.
    Thanks for the update.

    I posted that on March 1st, before either Roov or I had five pieces of the set. After we got our sets, we quickly discovered the blade wall crit thing, then got Graal to confirm that the tooltip was wrong and the blade wall crit pips were the actual set bonus.

    And yes, it is awesome.

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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Lestache View Post
    And yes, it is awesome.


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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by oogabooga227 View Post
    Any Hunters on E with 5/6 feel free to contact me if you want to test out whether it stacks or not. Ideally, going to the moors would be best, and just FF on a Creep who has a few defiler friends.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aestis25 View Post
    I was assuming it did not stack but was instead referring to simply the frequency of the buff proc'ing on mobs (particularly high-morale raid bosses, of course). If it *also* stacked, that would be pretty epic. But even if it doesn't stack, the increased frequency of the buff from 2-3 Hunters makes this a pretty nice set bonus IMO.




    Shoot me a PM whenever and I'll hop out there with ya to test. Except, is there any way to know if it was stacking or not? I haven't tested the proc yet, so if there's no animation or other way to tell when it procs, how would you know? In other words, if your buff procs, and then mine procs, but the debuffs do not stack, is there any way to know for certain that mine proc'd and they weren't stacking, as opposed to mine just not proc'ing?
    It doesn't have any audio/visual cue, it just shows the debuff icon on the mob. I suggest timing the ISB shots a few seconds after each other, if the buff timer resets then it doesn't stack, if it adds a new debuff then it does.
    If you guys haven't tested it out yet, I would be available to try it this weekend.
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    Re: Far Arrow Fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Insan0 View Post
    It doesn't have any audio/visual cue, it just shows the debuff icon on the mob. I suggest timing the ISB shots a few seconds after each other, if the buff timer resets then it doesn't stack, if it adds a new debuff then it does.
    If you guys haven't tested it out yet, I would be available to try it this weekend.
    Realistically the more of us that we can get together to mess around, the easier it's going to be. Pick a time, and let's get together - And see what can be done. I know Bereth has the set as well, so thats 4 of us on E.
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