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  1. #51
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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    I believe that to be - Chuck Norris, armored.

  2. #52
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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saxzon View Post
    I believe that to be - Chuck Norris, armored.
    Can't be...everybody knows Chuck Norris plays a warden...hvy armor and no shield=no warden=no Chuck Norris

  3. #53
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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Quote Originally Posted by JonBongJovi View Post
    The knight doesnt have the right hairstyle for the birds to be a flock of seagulls
    I see what you did there.
    [charsig=http://lotrosigs.level3.turbine.com/0920d00000003106c/signature.png]Celedriel[/charsig]

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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Sorry, folks, I've been on vacation for the last two weeks (well, still am, but not voluntarily...a woman named Irene has me stranded in the St. Louis area.) Anyway, I believe that is supposed to be Elendil, but I'll have to check with the Art team to verify this. The computer I'm on doesn't have a good resolution, and I'm having difficulty distinguishing the details of the image. I'll check on this when I get back in the office.

  5. #55
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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berephon View Post
    Sorry, folks, I've been on vacation for the last two weeks (well, still am, but not voluntarily...a woman named Irene has me stranded in the St. Louis area.) Anyway, I believe that is supposed to be Elendil, but I'll have to check with the Art team to verify this. The computer I'm on doesn't have a good resolution, and I'm having difficulty distinguishing the details of the image. I'll check on this when I get back in the office.
    Oh yay...we got Berephon! Now we may finally know

    btw, hope Irene is not giving a lot of trouble....
    Arkenhelm - 86 Loremaster (R6) - Landroval
    Ivalden - 76 Captain (R2) - Landroval
    Drankorg - Warg (R5) - Landroval
    Naurvion - 26 Loremaster - Landroval

  6. #56
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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Berephon View Post
    Sorry, folks, I've been on vacation for the last two weeks (well, still am, but not voluntarily...a woman named Irene has me stranded in the St. Louis area.) Anyway, I believe that is supposed to be Elendil, but I'll have to check with the Art team to verify this. The computer I'm on doesn't have a good resolution, and I'm having difficulty distinguishing the details of the image. I'll check on this when I get back in the office.
    Thank you for the heads up!
    While Irene is keeping you locked down, do you have any theory what could link Elendil with {swans|gulls|geese|other white birds} ?
    in my thoughts and in my dreams they´re always in my mind
    these songs of hobbits, dwarves and men and elves
    come close your eyes
    you can see them, too - Blind Guardian, Bards tale

  7. #57
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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Elendil was an elf-friend and sailed with big ships (like birds?). Seven stars are from his standard, depictating the seven ships that escaped Numenor's destruction. I can't find any reference to cranes, swans or whatever dodo's those are, and the lack of the crown above the stars... artistic freedom? Nice piece none the less.

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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Quote Originally Posted by BelamanthDE View Post
    Thank you for the heads up!
    While Irene is keeping you locked down, do you have any theory what could link Elendil with {swans|gulls|geese|other white birds} ?
    IIRC those are actually gulls which were sometimes used to symbolize with the Numenorian Kings because when they came to Middle Earth by the ships, the people there saw them and called them as Kings who came from the Sea....
    Arkenhelm - 86 Loremaster (R6) - Landroval
    Ivalden - 76 Captain (R2) - Landroval
    Drankorg - Warg (R5) - Landroval
    Naurvion - 26 Loremaster - Landroval

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    AW: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    Trying one last time to catch Berephon in this thread with a definitive answer. If it doesn't work, I'll just accept this as an enigma.
    in my thoughts and in my dreams they´re always in my mind
    these songs of hobbits, dwarves and men and elves
    come close your eyes
    you can see them, too - Blind Guardian, Bards tale

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    Re: Who is depicted on this OD tapestry?

    I discovered a clue to solving this puzzle this morning when my wife and I viewed The Cult of Beauty: The Victorian Avant-Garde 1860–1900 exhibit currently on display at Legion of Honor Fine Arts Museums in San Francisco. This exhibit was previously shown at the Victoria & Albert Museum in London and the Musée d’Orsay in Paris.

    As I went through the exhibit I came upon a piece created by Walter Crane in 1875. You may see it displayed on the Victoria & Albert Museum website: Swan, Rush and Iris. The poses of the swans immediately brought the Ost Dunhoth tapestry to my mind. If you compare the birds in the tapestry to those in Crane’s work very carefully you’ll find that the birds are posed virtually identically. The tapestry even includes the reeds found in the original work.

    So now we know that the birds were swans in the original work. However, the birds in Crane’s work have black legs and feet while those in the Ost Dunhot tapestry are orange. More importantly, the necks of the birds in Crane’s work are long and slender, while those in the tapestry are short and thick. The heads are quite a bit different, too. The wings and tails are slightly different, but otherwise the images are quite similar. Similar enough to determine that Crane’s work most likely inspired the LOTRO artist who created the tapestry.

    I find this is very interesting, particularly given my previous discovery that a tapestry displayed in the Mead Hall and Skirmish Hall in Stangard is very nearly the duplicate of a work created by George Bain. If you are interested in knowing more about that discovery please visit my post entitled Three Horses in the J.R.R. Tolkien forum.
    Last edited by oldbadgerbrock; Jun 08 2012 at 03:24 AM. Reason: slight rewording for clarity in a couple of spots
    Faërie is a perilous land, and in it are pitfalls for the unwary and dungeons for the overbold. – J.R.R. Tolkien, ‘On Fairy-Stories’.

 

 
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