Update 6 Live Monday!

[Varenthor]

what did they do with Agression?

Instead of leeching a significant amount of threat from each fellow member, Aggression now only transfers a moderate amount of threat, the same as conviction. Bye easy threat swapping.

[aardnebby]

Hm. Hopefully. I use the OOC Regenerative buffs alot, as well as the Rouse Spirit in case my Tokens are on CD. We'll have to get a guide going come Monday with quests that give DP as rewards.

Lol seriously, did you not read the dev diary and Sapience's clarification in the discussion thread?

My last few posts have said the same think various ways.

Unless turbine changed tracks in the last two weeks or made a mistake and forgot to remove them, there will be no quests or instances that give DP. At all. ONLY leveling. According to their own community rep and dev diary.

[Elrendos]

Lol seriously, did you not read the dev diary and Sapience's clarification in the discussion thread?

My last few posts have said the same think various ways.

Unless turbine changed tracks in the last two weeks or made a mistake and forgot to remove them, there will be no quests or instances that give DP. At all. ONLY leveling. According to their own community rep and dev diary.

Nah, didn't bother reading the Commendation one. Ugh that kind of sucks though eh? Oh well... I guess I'll just have to save them up with the next level increase. Thanks though! I'll be sure to do my homework next time.

[Kantaryo]

Maybe there will be some tokens or something that will give us DP points, like the tokens you get now that we use to increase item exp.

Now on the other hand if leveling is the only way to get DP, what will stop players from creating 5 alts, milk them to level 20 (easy to get) achieve 20 levels of extra DP, delete the character and repeat, repeat and repeat. It will be stupid but heck if it works.....

[aardnebby]

Maybe there will be some tokens or something that will give us DP points, like the tokens you get now that we use to increase item exp.

Maybe. Umm but given they have specifically said there won't be, I'm fairly confident this is not going to happen.

[Kantaryo]

Maybe. Umm but given they have specifically said there won't be, I'm fairly confident this is not going to happen.

Well my second choice will be Altomania!!!!

[Elrendos]

Maybe. Umm but given they have specifically said there won't be, I'm fairly confident this is not going to happen.

Hm. Guess we'll have to do like Kantaryo said then and level a toon to level ~20ish. Good way to get some TP at the same time though.

[Killien]

For God's sake fix hunters.

You're probably right, we shouldn't be allowed to breed.

[Elrendos]

You're probably right, we shouldn't be allowed to breed.

lol nice. I'm going to tie that into my Elf Hunters back story. He was 'created' when a stray Penetrating Shot ricocheted (what the heck is the past tense for ricochet? lol) off a wheel barrel, pierced through a mans trousers... and further into an innocent bystanding Elvish Princess.

[Crell_1]

Or how about 2,000 DP from soloable instances like Stoneheight?

Remember, you get DP from instances, not just leveling, and many instances can now be soloed.

Definitely can confirm they stripped the DP out of quests. I didnt get a chance to check things like the Mirkwood metas.

[Eluros]

Definitely can confirm they stripped the DP out of quests. I didnt get a chance to check things like the Mirkwood metas.

Icky. Thanks for confirming that.

[Elrendos]

Definitely can confirm they stripped the DP out of quests. I didnt get a chance to check things like the Mirkwood metas.

Ouch! Gives me a reason to finish levelling my 46 Champion then, heh. It doesn't take long to bring a character up to level 20 though. So depending on how many DP you get per level it may be worth grinding a few toons to 20 for DP and TP over a week or something.

[PropJoe]

Ouch! Gives me a reason to finish levelling my 46 Champion then, heh. It doesn't take long to bring a character up to level 20 though. So depending on how many DP you get per level it may be worth grinding a few toons to 20 for DP and TP over a week or something.

200 DP/level starting from level 10.

[Elrendos]

200 DP/level starting from level 10.

Hm. That's not too bad. So a couple thousand from grinding a toon from 1-20... plus whatever TP you get along the way too. Not too bad at all! Thanks.

[Cayenne_EU]

I think I have around 430k DPs. I have never found any good use for them. All that is anywhere near good, is ridiculously expensive. Others are just marginal help and not worth it. That dread removal could be nice, but for that are minnies and tokens.

Even more I wonder if anyone actually will level a toon to 20 just to get more DPs. :O

[Vandervahn]

Oh that sucks. So what happenes to level 75 players? How do we get DP?

You wont get any workable amount of DP. It has been stated that the DP functionality is intended to be pratically slashed from the game. The only method to gain DP in the future will be the few from level-ups and a few special grants; I believe it surmounts to something like 12.000 DP possible per char.

It was further stated that new ways to give VIPs the equivalent of DP buffs were "looked into". To my knowledge, no new word on that.

[Aeggil]

Definitely can confirm they stripped the DP out of quests. I didnt get a chance to check things like the Mirkwood metas.

I don't suppose you've checked the daily quests in Enedwaith? (the 'hobbit' area, forget what it's called) There are/were a few dailies there that award DP. Will they still be giving DP after U6?

C

[Vandervahn]

People.
DP will be all but gone. There will be no ways except the puny few from levelling and grants to get DP. So if you have less than 50 or 100k save it for blue XP and runspeed or whatever.

Here is the actual clarification:
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?445388-Update-6-Commendations-Developer-Diary/page30&p=6002542#post6002542

It is supposed to be replaced with an as-of-yet unnamed system. We´ll see.

[Laerien]

• Destiny points can be spent by Creeps or Freep on perks only.

Also from the Devs diary

"(If you still have skills that you haven’t purchased for Destiny, go do so now! Spend your Destiny!)"

So creeps be adviced

[Fudoshin]

People.
DP will be all but gone. There will be no ways except the puny few from levelling and grants to get DP. So if you have less than 50 or 100k save it for blue XP and runspeed or whatever.

Here is the actual clarification:
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?445388-Update-6-Commendations-Developer-Diary/page30&p=6002542#post6002542

It is supposed to be replaced with an as-of-yet unnamed system. We´ll see.

I fully don't think there is a system, it was never intended to be replaced IMO, there was no suggestion that it would be. Like you said we will wait and see.

[Vandervahn]

If you read the link I gave, it will show that Sapience says quite clearly that it will be replaced, and that the perks will not be store-only. Thats not really an ambiguous statement, before someone jumps in presents all the other cases where Turbine might have or have not broken any promises.

Again, anything else on these supposed "new ways" before we have any information is pure speculation. For myself, I have decided to allow for 4 weeks of waiting until a new way is presented and will make a continuing subscription based on that. Though I´d actually trade the whole DP stuff for a wholly different VIP bonus if it satisfies me, or even a more regular release schedule that is accessible for subscribers.

[aardnebby]

If you read the link I gave, it will show that Sapience says quite clearly that it will be replaced, and that the perks will not be store-only. Thats not really an ambiguous statement, before someone jumps in presents all the other cases where Turbine might have or have not broken any promises.

Again, anything else on these supposed "new ways" before we have any information is pure speculation. For myself, I have decided to allow for 4 weeks of waiting until a new way is presented and will make a continuing subscription based on that. Though I´d actually trade the whole DP stuff for a wholly different VIP bonus if it satisfies me, or even a more regular release schedule that is accessible for subscribers.

Got to respect your patience, I'm still annoyed they are basically removing a VIP feature when they haven't even given an IDEA of how it will be replaced. It will be months at the minimum before an entirely new system could be implemented, so why remove DP now? Because people without huge stores will be given the choice of doing without or paying at the store. It's a transparent cash grab barely concealed by a barely related change (new PvP currency). If not, they could have left destiny points in pve quests and instances.