Do the majority of players enjoy Light of Earendil?

[sapienze]

Also, on another tangent, if the debate is still ongoing within SSG as to whether LOE will be implemented or not, how realistic is a release date of Oct. 29th?

I'd say LoE was already decided before it was stated it wasn't decided.

If it hadn't been decided, then that leaves a small window to create, or change every piece of gear as part of MM. Including Lootboxes. You just know, there won't be one set for each class but four, five, and maybe six sets for each classes progression, if the last expansion is any measure to go by.



Nah, its already been decided and implemented. What ever the decision was.

[NavarreBlood]

I certainly hope LoE will not be a part of the next expansion. In terms of gearing new characters for the region, it just makes doing so a real pain, and requires multiple sets of gear and more storage space. I don't see any upside in having LoE for players and from a development standpoint, simpler is better - meaning no LoE.

[cdq1958]

I certainly hope LoE will not be a part of the next expansion. In terms of gearing new characters for the region, it just makes doing so a real pain, and requires multiple sets of gear and more storage space. I don't see any upside in having LoE for players and from a development standpoint, simpler is better - meaning no LoE.

Note that level 120 players have 80 Light as a passive. I suggest increasing that passive with level, so that a 130 has 180 at least. I agree that gear not get LoE on it or all have it, from 106 on; barring the Mordor expansion, itself. (If I am remembering correctly, Sauron's shadow didn't vanish immediately with the destruction of the ring, so some should still be there. Timewise, we are not that far from March 25, 3019 TA.)

[Theozor]

LoE was one of many things I hated about Mordor. I didn't like it back when it was called Radiance either. I hope not to see it back with this expansion, but I'm pessimistic enough to expect it anyway.

[NeoBasilisk]

I don't have a big problem with it as long as they handle level increases appropriately, unlike what was done with Abyss. We should not need separate sets of gear for old raids.

As a general principle, I think LoE is okay and never really understood the major complaints. It made gear from old instances useless? Okay, gear from old instances is useless right now. Well, not literally useless, but anyone who cares about gear will not be impressed. You get the best gear from newer content. I don't know why people want to run 7 year old instances.

[Asterus]

Have given this some thought over the months whenever I read commentary on this subject of Radiance/Light of Earendil (LoE).

I suppose increasing the passive LoE is one way around the issues discussed as some have already put forward.

The other idea some have mentioned is to do away with it altogether.

But assuming that SSG are intent on going forth with LoE because if I have read it right, in theory it appears to be a nice thing to immerse players in the game with the "oooo, scary place" etc, but without detracting from the fun aspect, then here is a possible option:

Why not create a new gear piece for our characters that specifically is for LoE? We know they can create new slots as they have already done this for the new aura cosmetics for Minas Morgul.

So what gear piece would it be? How about a belt or belt buckle slot? And one places into that slot an LoE piece of gear. And that gear only has LoE on it - no other stats. That way it won't interfere with any other regular gear one has acquired in the landscape or instances, skirmish raids etc. And that LoE stays with you until you unequip it and replace it with a better piece of LoE gear. As mentioned, that LoE gear (belt or belt buckle) only has LoE and serves no function or purpose other than to neutralise or debuff the Shadow effect. And so when you win or acquire new gear (that is, regular armour, jewellery etc) then it won't matter that you place your new gear on as it in turn won't interfere with that one and only LoE slot.

This way, SSG, if they are intent on pursuing the LoE course of action, will appease (maybe?) those against LoE in its current form, as it won't detract from our regular gear, as the regular gear won't need to have any LoE on it due to our now having a specific dedicated LoE slot.

Hope I sort of explained what I meant right and that it wasn't too wordy and that you get the gist of it.

Also hope what I suggested has some merit.

Hopefully.

[Cityboy_007]

I really like your idea Asterus. Folks will still have varying levels of LOE and gear stats so they can pick and choose the content they want to play or the stats to strive for.

[Belechael]

For starters: Radiance was not the problem back in the days, the problem was the way you could get the necessary radiance from the instances in order to even try the Watcher.

When the barter system with the coins was introduced Radiance was not a problem at all.

LoE similarly is not a problem in itself, however, the ways that we will get the items with LoE might be a problem.

[Lord.Funk]

For starters: Radiance was not the problem back in the days, the problem was the way you could get the necessary radiance from the instances in order to even try the Watcher.

When the barter system with the coins was introduced Radiance was not a problem at all.

LoE similarly is not a problem in itself, however, the ways that we will get the items with LoE might be a problem.

I agree that the coin barter made aquiring Radiance more bearable, but it did not solve one big problem (that became very obvious with mordor and radiance brought back under the name of loe).

Namely the problem that any other content that don't drop have LoE on become totally useless. That was one thing I liked about Ered Mithrin and Vales. People could chose to run some older content to get 4 slot elggingd for example. Even if they later NERFed the ili on those leggings, they could still be worth getting. They would be utterly useless with requirement for LoE in the new region. Some like to run different content, not farm the same few instances that comes with the new region 24/7. Some even want to use BB jewelery and what not. I'm not one of them, but I still am in favour of the more in-game options to aquire Your gear, the better.

To me that is a big downside with LoE and the same it was for Radiance, everything but gear with LoE/Radiance 2.0 on them becomes useless. The game feels more tunnelled/narrow in what content is worth playing.

[Cityboy_007]

To enhance on Asterus's idea, how about 1 essence slot on the belt that can only hold a LOE essence of any level ? Highest level essence for end game in that slot should give 0 shadow effect in the end game raid.
Light essences can also be added to regular gear as well . This should help with the watcher issue where someone could still do the raid at the sacrifice of some stats.

[webrender]

My suggestion for LoE is as follows:

• Keep the aura and "x" amount in landscape (for story continuity with Mordor expansion)
• Make our passive LoE on a 120 Character, 200 LoE instead of the 80

This would bypass the issue and once again make it possible to use the same armour set for all instances later down the line. LoE requirement pretty much killed Abyss Raid (even for fun) the moment we got new gear from another region. Let's not have a repeat with Minas Morgul instances and raids further down the line.

Well said. I have even even put off going back to Mordor to clean up some leftover deeds, as I really didn't want to deal with the whole LoE aspect. The LoE passive helps, but doesn't cover all the zones.

[Thurinuor]

I think, SSG should continue LOE in Mordor (and so in Minas Tirith) and keep it away from other regions. If the don't continue LOE in Mordor, than it should be removed completely from the game.

[wally300]

I haven't watched the stream yet, only Druidsfires recap post in regular forums.

In that she said that they had NOT decided yet IF or how much would be. I got the feeling that it was not set in stone that their would be LoE.



I agree with You and do NOT like LoE/Radiance 2.0. I explained why in that post.

I run 8 toons, 3 regularly. I may have one or two lower (120) level toons that have old gear with LOE and have not had any newer gear drop with LOE, now running BB's for crystals and frequently encounter the Shadow of Mordor debuff and that is very frustrating, solo I can die and switch to another toon but in group it can be disaster.
I see no reason for the LOE period unless it is included on all gear which it is not. Please LOTRO bury it deep in the ground.

[Dosiere]

I still don’t understand what the point of it is other than to lock players from content, and to make it more difficult to find groups for said content.

[Mukor]

The biggest question is why stops the passive loe with 120 and we dont get 20/level more for each level that we won´t need old gear if we want to run the abyss for fun.

[jokor]

The biggest question is why stops the passive loe with 120 and we dont get 20/level more for each level that we won´t need old gear if we want to run the abyss for fun.

They abandoned light like usual. In my mind this is a good things. Do you want to revive this in MM ? Me not.

About abyss it's an old content and this raid was the worst ever and a big failure. May i remember you all regular kinship were cheating to do all the content with exploit bug on all boss and avoid all monster pack they can. Not a big deal.